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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    I consider it quite silly that anarchists would have set about advocating for government-mandated standards and practices.

    Anarchists are just the edgier version of the “highschooler who never grew up” party, the libertarians.
    Libertarians are anarchists. Specifically ANCAPS. Anarcho-Capitalists.

    As a rule of thumb the only current of Anarchist thought that has actually done anything worthwhile and which presents practical and applicable ideas are Anarcho Syndicalists.

    They effectively shaped the western labor movement along with Socialists throughout the 20th century, much of the legal framework and theory behind non-profits, co-operatives and more are derived from or a product of Anarcho-Syndicalists.

    They do get scoffed at by "real" leftist anarchists because they are "too practical" and "gradualist" and too willing to engage in both in the market economy and politics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    Libertarians are anarchists. Specifically ANCAPS. Anarcho-Capitalists.

    As a rule of thumb the only current of Anarchist thought that has actually done anything worthwhile and which presents practical and applicable ideas are Anarcho Syndicalists.

    They effectively shaped the western labor movement along with Socialists throughout the 20th century, much of the legal framework and theory behind non-profits, co-operatives and more are derived from or a product of Anarcho-Syndicalists.

    They do get scoffed at by "real" leftist anarchists because they are "too practical" and "gradualist" and too willing to engage in both in the market economy and politics.
    Ancaps ignore pretty much everything that makes anarchism well.. anarchism. Replacing the state by all powerfull corperations is the exact same thing.. without the democracy.

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    Supposed "anarchists" only support "survival of the strongest" whether they realize it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Supposed "anarchists" only support "survival of the strongest" whether they realize it or not.
    The A on his belt is for Anarchy!!!!



    Edit: Why would an ancient villain of immense power put their initial on a belt? Because villains have communal laundry and ending up with Magneto’s belt is embarrassing. The red just clashes with blue... and the fit is just off... Dazzler would just give them endless shit...

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    Oh... my... god... I present... Marvel’s Captain Anarchy... the first text bubble... I can’t... sides... exploding... lol!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    The A on his belt is for Anarchy!!!!
    Now now...
    During his little spat with Loki when he jeeringly told him how humanity would fight the gods themselves I almost cheered.

    Although later on I did wonder why super...people...use descriptive names that informed others of their powers...ergo possible weaknesses...? Sure, the old guard I get, but the new kids...

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    Captain Anarchy?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    Libertarians are anarchists. Specifically ANCAPS. Anarcho-Capitalists.

    As a rule of thumb the only current of Anarchist thought that has actually done anything worthwhile and which presents practical and applicable ideas are Anarcho Syndicalists.

    They effectively shaped the western labor movement along with Socialists throughout the 20th century, much of the legal framework and theory behind non-profits, co-operatives and more are derived from or a product of Anarcho-Syndicalists.

    They do get scoffed at by "real" leftist anarchists because they are "too practical" and "gradualist" and too willing to engage in both in the market economy and politics.
    Except, libertarians understand that government does actually have a place... just a very small one. That's not anarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Although later on I did wonder why super...people...use descriptive names that informed others of their powers...ergo possible weaknesses...? Sure, the old guard I get, but the new kids...
    Well... Imagine if they don’t... Peter!!! Have you had contact with Steve? I know Ben, Reed, Johnny and Sue are in the way... It sounds more like brunch...

    Captain Anarchy?...
    I know!!!! Ridiculous...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post
    Ancaps ignore pretty much everything that makes anarchism well.. anarchism. Replacing the state by all powerfull corperations is the exact same thing.. without the democracy.
    So, how exactly do you plan on achieving your communist utopia without the use of authoritarian force?

    I'm pretty sure you are the same person who wants the government to take over all industries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Supposed "anarchists" only support "survival of the strongest" whether they realize it or not.
    So does capitalism.........hmmmmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    So, how exactly do you plan on achieving your communist utopia without the use of authoritarian force?

    I'm pretty sure you are the same person who wants the government to take over all industries.
    there's a few school of thoughts

    - enlightenment - id probably read Malatesta, Errico – At the Cafe
    - revolutionary violence - Bonanno, Alfredo – Armed Joy
    - parallel society building - uhh cant remember off the top of my head probably something by Malatesta

    Its funny how liberal/right wing libertarianposters have turned a thread about white nationalist/fascist insurrection into a thread about how left wing thought is bad and all it took was a rightwinger to post about anarchists.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    So does capitalism.........hmmmmmm
    Does that imply that all government is destined for the same outcome, with the only thing holding them back is the sword of Democles?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Supposed "anarchists" only support "survival of the strongest" whether they realize it or not.
    Tyranny of the strongest is what we got going on right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Supposed "anarchists" only support "survival of the strongest" whether they realize it or not.
    I mean, you could just have said, like many before you, that you dont know what Anarchism actually is. Of which the basics have already been explained many times in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro-Violence View Post
    Tyranny of the strongest is what we got going on right now.
    Sorry, we tried tyranny of the elite... the majority didn’t like it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    there's a few school of thoughts

    - enlightenment - id probably read Malatesta, Errico – At the Cafe
    - revolutionary violence - Bonanno, Alfredo – Armed Joy
    - parallel society building - uhh cant remember off the top of my head probably something by Malatesta

    Its funny how liberal/right wing libertarianposters have turned a thread about white nationalist/fascist insurrection into a thread about how left wing thought is bad and all it took was a rightwinger to post about anarchists.

    [IMG]https://i.imgflip.com/4uzcur.jpg[IMG]


    But somehow Big bussiness being in charge of everything, like in libertartianism, will be totally okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post
    But somehow Big bussiness being in charge of everything, like in libertartianism, will be totally okay.
    That means nothing... how are you different from those complaining about big government? Be more specific...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    there's a few school of thoughts

    - enlightenment - id probably read Malatesta, Errico – At the Cafe
    - revolutionary violence - Bonanno, Alfredo – Armed Joy
    - parallel society building - uhh cant remember off the top of my head probably something by Malatesta

    Its funny how liberal/right wing libertarianposters have turned a thread about white nationalist/fascist insurrection into a thread about how left wing thought is bad and all it took was a rightwinger to post about anarchists.

    I can address the stupidity of left wing and right wing ideas. It's not hard. I don't feel a partisan pull to not consider an idea bad because of where it falls on the idealogical spectrum.


    I don't know if anyone told you but nationalism, facism, and anarchy can all be dumb ideas. And you can whine all you want about whether there's really such as thing as right wing anarchism. It's irrelevant to the point that it fits perfectly in the box if really dumb ideas like facism.

    What's more funny is how you and the usual suspects who couldn't zip their pants without outside help keep doubling down on your defense of this terrible political philosophy. Let's not pretend communismwillwin and pro violence don't bring this kind of shit up in half the threads he posts in.

    And I know at least one of those was right along cheering the violence of the facist nutters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post
    I mean, you could just have said, like many before you, that you dont know what Anarchism actually is. Of which the basics have already been explained many times in this thread.
    Still have zero compelling evidence you do. Which is in line with your posting despite a lack of knowledge on american government, UK, EU and we'll really any political or economic thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shimerra View Post
    What's more funny is how you and the usual suspects who couldn't zip their pants without outside help keep doubling down on your defense of this terrible political philosophy. Let's not pretend communismwillwin and pro violence don't bring this kind of shit up in half the threads he posts in.

    And I know at least one of those was right along cheering the violence of the facist nutters.
    I don't think I've ever mentioned anything about the philosophy of anarchism over the past few years. I just acknowledge that the philosophy is a lot deeper and has more going on than most people give it credit for.

    Saying that "Anarchism is bad, because some people will abuse it", is like saying that "Communism is bad, because some people will be capitalists".
    Even if even that is an oversimplification.

    As for me? I admit I'm an absolute lunatic who is in favor of chaos, because I don't like what is currently going on - despite being in a privileged and elated position in this supposed state of "normalcy". In that sense I'm probably a fan of anarchy, more than of anarchism, but me being an idiot is not what is the discussion here.

    Also, you're always rude and seem unable to post without at least cursing or insulting in your posts. Makes all your posts come across as smugly arrogant. (Not saying this to flame... Just pointing out the obvious.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    The A on his belt is for Anarchy!!!!



    Edit: Why would an ancient villain of immense power put their initial on a belt? Because villains have communal laundry and ending up with Magneto’s belt is embarrassing. The red just clashes with blue... and the fit is just off... Dazzler would just give them endless shit...

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    Even though I'm a Marvel fan and don't like DC, reminds me of Superman: Red Son.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    Even though I'm a Marvel fan and don't like DC, reminds me of Superman: Red Son.
    NO!!!!!!!!

    This is from into the spiderverse... from the... jeebus... Spider-Punk universe... it’s not good... lol

    Superman: Red Son is one of the best comic book stories I ever read. I put it right up there with Watchman...

    Edit: I am moving away from main stream comics, not because am cool or anything. Most stories put out, I’ve simply read similar, because am old. Indy comics have new stories or at least interesting takes on existing tropes. Although... I do heart me the Hickman XMen... He is touching subjects... lol
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