1. #481
    Quote Originally Posted by Bovinity Divinity View Post
    Not really going to go anywhere, though.
    I believe the Republican members of Congress who have incited this domestic terror attack through their attempts to overturn the election must face consequences. They have broken their sacred Oath of Office.

    I will be introducing a resolution calling for their expulsion.
    If this only takes a simple majority, then democrats can make it happen. They have to at least try.

    At this point there absolutely HAS to be consequences to these actions. It would be unwise for this to be just glossed over as something to be forgotten.

  2. #482
    Whatever the outcome of these specific events will be tonight, the United States of America that everyone alive today knew up to this point is done.

    We cannot pretend that we can just return to normal. What's left of our democracy will slip away unless we actually undertake a significant constitutional reform.

    Electoral, political, law enforcement, gun control etc related reforms.

    The Democratic Party either begins this process now, or this country is gone.

    And Republicans who actually even tangentially still believe in America and democracy need to abandon the party. Start a new one. The RNC as is, must go.
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  3. #483
    Quote Originally Posted by Flower Milk View Post
    Just posting more examples of cops not doing a damn thing about this and enabling them

    https://twitter.com/kylebuchanan/sta...24232828092418

    If they were black they would have been shot first, no chance to ask questions later.

  4. #484
    Quote Originally Posted by Flower Milk View Post
    Jesus christ just saw that Joe Biden speech and it was painfully weak. These are not just a "few bad apples" Joe, please stop. This is who the Republican party is god damnit.

    Joe Biden call them the fascists that they are challenge 2021
    It's pretty obvious that Biden is not a strong public speaker. He's no Obama. That said, I'll take him over Mr. 'Good people on both sides'.

  5. #485
    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    Whatever the outcome of these specific events will be tonight, the United States of America that everyone alive today knew up to this point is done.

    We cannot pretend that we can just return to normal. What's left of our democracy will slip away unless we actually undertake a significant constitutional reform.

    Electoral, political, law enforcement, gun control etc related reforms.

    The Democratic Party either begins this process now, or this country is gone.

    And Republicans who actually even tangentially still believe in America and democracy need to abandon the party. Start a new one. The RNC as is, must go.
    Yep, now is not the time to call for bipartisanship with the Republican Party. Either Democrats actually put up opposition to this fascist insurrection that the Republican Party enabled, or we have to do it ourselves. Now is not the time to shrivel up and tone ourselves down to prevent "fanning the flames", they're only going to get more aggressive regardless of what we do.

    And I swear to god if Democrats use their new political capital to try to pass gun control as a means to prevent an armed fascist insurrection I'm gonna lose my god damned mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magicalcrab View Post
    I think you're forgetting a crucial detail, friend.


    They're white.

    Jolly good, hard-working Americans with concerns.
    It don't fucking matter. Riots and especially borderline treason/coup should be put down and put down hard. If your soft. You end up with something like Portland.

    I personally think a lot of this junk stims from fear. 2016 was the year of them gloating, them saying shit, the left needs to honor the process, and tons more that I can't remember. Now just like a pendulum. It's now their turn to be on the defensive. The protesters/ coup...ers? decided to sully their cause by being stupid. Why they'd want to end up in jail or worse for an idiot like trump. I don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flower Milk View Post
    Just posting more examples of cops not doing a damn thing about this and enabling them

    https://twitter.com/kylebuchanan/sta...24232828092418
    To play devil's advocate, the Capitol Police really don't have the manpower to respond to this. That's why they're putting out calls to external PDs and the National Guard. Trying to respond with escalations of force when you're vastly outnumbered and out-armed is just asking for a lot of people, including most/all of your officers, to get killed. It's reasonable to take a "minimize casualties, allow them access" kind of approach, in that case.

    Doesn't justify taking goddamned selfies with the terrorists, though.

    And this is all while you wait for backup to show up. Once they do, it's go-time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durenas View Post
    It's pretty obvious that Biden is not a strong public speaker. He's no Obama. That said, I'll take him over Mr. 'Good people on both sides'.
    Yeah, at least he sounds like an adult when he speaks, not a 9 y/o.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Did you see the pictures?

    They literally had desks and chairs barricading the doors to prevent people from entering and people were trying to break through the glass to force entry.

    What exactly should they have done when violent insurrectionists try to take the Capitol building?



    Then check it out before discussing it?

    As far as I discussed it, I said it was a shame that someone had to get shot?
    Isn't it always a tragedy when someone gets injured? Whether or not they did something to deserve it? It's a shame they were misinformed, that they brought the violence to the capitol building, and it's a tragedy that someone was shot. Whether or not it was justified. If they brandished a weapon, made threats, and as more details come out, that may indeed prove to be the case.
    My initial standpoint stems from "I wish no one had to get shot. It's a shame it happened."

    I didn't think I'd have to defend such a benign position.
    I understand that tensions are high, and people are quick to point fingers, be angry, and maybe I'm just not as familiar with the posters who tend to frequent this forum and if there's some kind of history that makes my particular style or word choice turn on alarms in people's heads, but whoosh, it's like some of you are leaping at things to attack.

    To clarify, I hope these terrorists get escorted out of the building in handcuffs.
    Not on a stretcher.

  10. #490
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    To play devil's advocate, the Capitol Police really don't have the manpower to respond to this. That's why they're putting out calls to external PDs and the National Guard. Trying to respond with escalations of force when you're vastly outnumbered and out-armed is just asking for a lot of people, including most/all of your officers, to get killed. It's reasonable to take a "minimize casualties, allow them access" kind of approach, in that case.

    Doesn't justify taking goddamned selfies with the terrorists, though.

    And this is all while you wait for backup to show up. Once they do, it's go-time.
    This is actually untrue, there were around ~1000 people outside the police gates of the Capitol and not a single tear gas or rubber bullet was fired at them at any point. The police even opened up the gates and backed up into the Capitol building afterwards before even trying to fire off tear gas or rubber bullets. Like I said earlier, we literally saw these same police fire mass amounts of tear gas at protesters this summer when they cleared the way for Trump to walk to that church. They had the means to stop this and chose not to use it, even opening the gates to just... let people in.

  11. #491
    Quote Originally Posted by Saninicus View Post
    The protesters/ coup...ers? decided to sully their cause by being stupid. Why they'd want to end up in jail or worse for an idiot like trump. I don't know.
    Terrorists.

    The word you are looking for is terrorists.

    They stormed the fucking US Capitol and there are reports of explosive devices found in the Capitol building.
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  12. #492
    Quote Originally Posted by rmfAcc View Post
    I generally don't cause people to be angry and to come knocking at my door.

    I generally cause 15 people to come cheer at me at my door and give me flowers and kisses. Because I'm not a crony politician.

    And everyone clapped.
    you don't need to make anyone angry.

    A right winger can just claim XXX about you, spread the lies, get it talked about on major outlets like OON and Rush.....bam....you got hundreds of people coming after you

    Just this week trump and co tweeted out some guys phone number by accident. you can only guess what happened.....
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

  13. #493
    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    what is your infatuation with "normie".....???

    What the fuck is a normie?

    It's a pejorative used by Alt-Right 4channers to describe conventional people.

    Again, in 2015 these posters were just Ron Paul supporters on 4chan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PresidentElectMilchschake View Post
    It's a pejorative used by Alt-Right 4channers to describe conventional people.

    Again, in 2015 these posters were just Ron Paul supporters on 4chan.
    Here is a video on it:



    Basically, he is a fascist...
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  15. #495

    Alliance

    I wonder how long it will be until we see fundraisers to bail participants out of jail, like the previous riots.
    It's just an old war, not even a cold war

  16. #496
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeth Hawkins View Post
    I wonder how long it will be until we see fundraisers to bail participants out of jail, like the previous riots.
    Yet again completely ignoring Context.
    Americans are the Chinese of the west. The main reason people tolerate them is because they are too big to ignore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeth Hawkins View Post
    I wonder how long it will be until we see fundraisers to bail participants out of jail, like the previous riots.
    How much money does the Pillow guy have left? Hey... maybe that’s a good use of the 2k you are about to get... give it to a terrorist to get out of jail...
    As above, so below.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeth Hawkins View Post
    I wonder how long it will be until we see fundraisers to bail participants out of jail, like the previous riots.
    I'd donate some bootstraps.
    Anything else would be socialism, surely. Can't let the US turn into Venezuela, can we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    Yet again completely ignoring Context.
    He isn’t talking about Pillow guy and that actor paying 2 million to bail out Rittenhous?
    As above, so below.
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  20. #500
    Amazing. All the shit going on right now and the poster that can do nothing but shit on Biden somehow made this about Biden. That deserves a round of applause.
    Fully support violence in the streets because you're too comfy sat at home in another country behind your PC screen to actually do anything about things you claim to be against Nobody is obsessed with you. Nobody really even cares about you. You're simply the joke that keeps on giving.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pro-Violence/Arch-Angel of Riots/rmfAcc/Rochana View Post
    I admit I'm an absolute lunatic who is in favor of chaos, because I don't like what is currently going on - despite being in a privileged and elated position in this supposed state of "normalcy".

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