Capitol Insurrection / rebellion thread

[Milchshake]

Like it's way easier to help the Dems flip 2 more seats. Then push for filibuster reform, then expand the court to dilute conservative votes.

Well, not quite as easy as being a terminal contrarian that yells at the Dems for "not doing anything" because they dont have 66 votes for impeachment.

[Fugus]

@Vegas82 @Poopymonster

I understand just how screwed up the GOP are, I know a few people personally who would gladly accept that without issue because party is more important than law or nation. But it still puts them on record and there are a few who actually would consider that a bridge too far and it creates a bigger push to expand the courts to diminish their influence on it.

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Like it's way easier to help the Dems flip 2 more seats. Then push for filibuster reform, then expand the court to dilute conservative votes.

Well, not quite as easy as being a terminal contrarian that yells at the Dems for "not doing anything" because they dont have 66 votes for impeachment.

And again, what I was suggesting didn't involve starting in the congress or senate, starting it involves nothing but the DOJ getting off their asses, doing their jobs, and going after a major crime that occurred on camera with blatant evidence and still under the statute of limitations. Charge him with that which carries up to 5 years in prison, then go from there.

After he is a felon (And in prison hopefully) for committing perjury, that makes it much harder to justify him staying there. THEN you push for the removal and even if they refuse to remove, you have them on record as supporting having a felon on the Supreme Court after they are caught committing perjury.

[Shadowferal]

After he is a felon (And in prison hopefully) for committing perjury, that makes it much harder to justify him staying there. THEN you push for the removal and even if they refuse to remove, you have them on record as supporting having a felon on the Supreme Court after they are caught committing perjury.

Worse. If the GOP claim to support adjudication from a judge in prison, then any judgment related to politics rendered by the SCOTUS is tainted if that particular judge refuses to recuse him/herself because he or she may not be impartial. I believe this would be intolerable to Roberts' court.

[Edge-]

https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...icans-1324218/

Donald Trump’s White House Chief of Staff and a national campaign spokesperson were involved in efforts to encourage the president’s supporters to march on the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. That’s according to a person who says he overheard a key planning conversation between top Trump officials and the organizers of the Jan. 6 rally on the White House Ellipse — and has since testified to House investigators about the phone call.

Trump and his allies have tried to minimize his role in calling his supporters to the Capitol and argue he was simply participating in a lawful, peaceful demonstration.

Scott Johnston — who worked on the team that helped plan the Ellipse rally — says that’s just not so. He claims that leading figures in the Trump administration and campaign deliberately planned to have crowds converge on the Capitol, where the 2020 election was being certified — and “make it look like they went down there on their own.”

Johnston, who says he described the phone call to House select committee investigators, detailed his allegations in a series of conversations with Rolling Stone. Johnston says he overheard Mark Meadows, then-former President Trump’s chief of staff, and Katrina Pierson, Trump’s national campaign spokesperson, talking with Kylie Kremer, the executive director of Women For America First, about plans for a march to the Capitol. Johnston said the conversation was clearly audible to him since it took place on a speakerphone as he drove Kremer between the group’s rallies in the final three days of 2020.

“They were very open about how there was going to be a march. Everyone knew there was going to be a march,” Johnston says.

According to Johnston, Meadows, Pierson, and Kremer discussed the possibility of setting up a permit to make the march from the White House to the Capitol official. He says the trio decided against officially permitting the march, citing concerns about security costs and about the optics of a sitting president organizing a push towards Congress as lawmakers certified his loss in the 2020 election. Ultimately, Johnston tells Rolling Stone, they planned to “direct the people down there and make it look like they went down there on their own.”

Surprising nobody, the plan always was to march on the capitol...and the Trump administration was involved while trying to make it seem like they weren't.

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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/couy-...b019fd81338a62

Cowboys for Trump founder found guilty of entering a restricted building.

[Masark]

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/couy-...b019fd81338a62

Cowboys for Trump founder found guilty of entering a restricted building.

Of course he's a criminal. Just look at his hat.

[postman1782]

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/couy-...b019fd81338a62

Cowboys for Trump founder found guilty of entering a restricted building.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/21/polit...y-6/index.html

Just replying to you, and tagging @Breccia. What do you guys think this guy's chances are of getting a new trial with the bullshit that his shitty lawyer is trying to use to try to get a new trial.

[Breccia]

What do you guys think this guy's chances are of getting a new trial with the bullshit that his shitty lawyer is trying to use to try to get a new trial.

He'll get an appeal, but that's it.

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Let me clarify. In that article, there's nothing the guilty insurrectionist offered which seemed to have any merit. He also suggested the prosecutors manufactured video evidence but provided no proof of this. He's desperate and flailing. He might get an appeal purely because why not, but there's nothing I see here with any hint of working.

[Poopymonster]

Violent insurrectionist flees to Belarus via Europe and Ukraine, to avoid being held responsible for his actions.
US declared him a fugitive.
He's glad Belarus is taking care of him.

[Dontrike]

Violent insurrectionist flees to Belarus via Europe and Ukraine, to avoid being help responsible for his actions.
US declared him a fugitive.
He's glad Belarus is taking care of him.

He's gonna have fun learning things over there and how shits a bit harder.

[postman1782]

Violent insurrectionist flees to Belarus via Europe and Ukraine, to avoid being held responsible for his actions.
US declared him a fugitive.
He's glad Belarus is taking care of him.

Hopefully they fucking draft him for the war and he figures out he fucked up when he went from maybe serving some jail time, to probably dying in a war.

[Edge-]

https://apnews.com/article/michigan-...974946bcb2fa19

A man who pleaded guilty to planning a kidnapping of Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer told jurors Wednesday that he and his allies wanted to act before the 2020 election to prevent Joe Biden from winning the presidency.

Ty Garbin, 26, didn’t say why they thought a kidnapping that fall would stop Biden from defeating then-President Donald Trump.

“We wanted to cause as much a disruption as possible to prevent Joe Biden from getting into office. It didn’t have to be,” Garbin said of striking before the election. “It was just preferred.”

Garbin, 26, is a critical witness for prosecutors in the trial of four men charged with conspiracy: Adam Fox, Barry Croft Jr., Daniel Harris and Brandon Caserta.

Radical extremist domestic terrorists gonna do radical extremist domestic terrorist things.

[Paranoid Android]

BREAKING: CBS News and The Washington Post have obtained copies of numerous texts between Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas' wife, Ginni Thomas, and Pres. Trump's White House chief of staff Mark Meadows about efforts to overturn the 2020 election.


Again this is HUUUUGE! I posted previous page how Clarence Thomas was only vote to block Jan 6th documents to House Committee. It's the sad irony of Republicans crying about politics in the court or "activism" when this is happening. This is very agregious.

[Endus]

BREAKING: CBS News and The Washington Post have obtained copies of numerous texts between Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas' wife, Ginni Thomas, and Pres. Trump's White House chief of staff Mark Meadows about efforts to overturn the 2020 election.


Again this is HUUUUGE! I posted previous page how Clarence Thomas was only vote to block Jan 6th documents to House Committee. It's the sad irony of Republicans crying about politics in the court or "activism" when this is happening. This is very agregious.

Like, if they draw a line between his wife sending such texts, and his ruling on the documents, that should be more than grounds enough to impeach Thomas and remove him from office. All by itself. Even if for just not disclosing that his wife was engaging in bullshit and he was erecting a Chinese Wall at home and not taking any advice from his wife over anything.

If he were a lawyer for a client and his wife was actively sabotaging his opponent in their lawsuit, you'd get your ass disbarred so fuckin' fast. And this is worse.

[cubby]

BREAKING: CBS News and The Washington Post have obtained copies of numerous texts between Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas' wife, Ginni Thomas, and Pres. Trump's White House chief of staff Mark Meadows about efforts to overturn the 2020 election.


Again this is HUUUUGE! I posted previous page how Clarence Thomas was only vote to block Jan 6th documents to House Committee. It's the sad irony of Republicans crying about politics in the court or "activism" when this is happening. This is very agregious.

So, to sum it up, SCOTUS Justice Thomas not only didn't recuse himself from personal involvement of a case, but also voted against the law in order to benefit his wife. That's how you spell impeachment, not that it will ever happen of course.

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Like, if they draw a line between his wife sending such texts, and his ruling on the documents, that should be more than grounds enough to impeach Thomas and remove him from office. All by itself. Even if for just not disclosing that his wife was engaging in bullshit and he was erecting a Chinese Wall at home and not taking any advice from his wife over anything.

If he were a lawyer for a client and his wife was actively sabotaging his opponent in their lawsuit, you'd get your ass disbarred so fuckin' fast. And this is worse.

I don't know the answer, but I wonder if they could disbar him for that.

[Shadowferal]

Seems to me this might have something to do with Thomas' absence. Quite a coincidence if not.

[Fugus]

Like, if they draw a line between his wife sending such texts, and his ruling on the documents, that should be more than grounds enough to impeach Thomas and remove him from office. All by itself. Even if for just not disclosing that his wife was engaging in bullshit and he was erecting a Chinese Wall at home and not taking any advice from his wife over anything.

If he were a lawyer for a client and his wife was actively sabotaging his opponent in their lawsuit, you'd get your ass disbarred so fuckin' fast. And this is worse.

Great, between that and Kavanaugh's perjury, mystery debt payoffs, and potential sexual assaults, the will have enough to remove them both and flip the court from 6/3 down to 4/5 and flip it.

Now, lets see them grow some balls for once damn it.

[cubby]

Great, between that and Kavanaugh's perjury, mystery debt payoffs, and potential sexual assaults, the will have enough to remove them both and flip the court from 6/3 down to 4/5 and flip it.

Now, lets see them grow some balls for once damn it.

But no matter what "balls" show up, we'd need 67 votes in the Senate. The GQP is never going to let that happen. The best we can hope for is Thomas ages or infirms out and Biden gets another one. That would take the court to 5/4, with Roberts back in the driver's seat as a swing vote.

[Fugus]

But no matter what "balls" show up, we'd need 67 votes in the Senate. The GQP is never going to let that happen. The best we can hope for is Thomas ages or infirms out and Biden gets another one. That would take the court to 5/4, with Roberts back in the driver's seat as a swing vote.

At which point Kavanaugh spends 5 years in prison for perjury while the GOP try to hem and haw about why it should be fine for him to legislate from prison for lying under oath along with anything else they get him on.

Even if the GOP refuses to remove and wants to keep him there, that still forces them on record.

[DarkTZeratul]

Even if the GOP refuses to remove and wants to keep him there, that still forces them on record.

I think we both know, at this point, that their voters do not care.