1. #5821
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/17/polit...ion/index.html

    The rural New Mexico county is now certifying the results in a 2:1 vote, with Couy Griffen, who was just sentenced on Friday for his role in the Jan. 6 riot, being the lone "no" vote.

    His reasoning?

    [Griffin] called in to the meeting and said his "gut feeling and intuition" told him to oppose the move. He also railed against what he called the "overreach of the state government."
    Now I don't think "I have an odd feeling in my gut" is enough to satisfy any court of anything other than you maybe being a little nervous or queasy. Butterflies in your tummy, you know?

    As to the latter...the "overreach of the state government" is also known as, "Forcing the county commissioners to do their jobs."

    Delicate, sensitive poo-baby snowflakes who continue to live in a fictional reality of their own makings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...-if-reelected/

    Once again, Trump is dangling the potential of pardons for Jan. 6 rioters if he's re-elected.

    Wonder why he didn't do them before he left office?
    Honestly, I firmly believe that Trump was enough of a stupid fuckin' narcissist that he never believed for a hot second there was any real chance he'd lose the election. Or that he wouldn't be able to coup things to his satisfaction if he lost.


  3. #5823
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/17/polit...ion/index.html

    The rural New Mexico county is now certifying the results in a 2:1 vote, with Couy Griffen, who was just sentenced on Friday for his role in the Jan. 6 riot, being the lone "no" vote.

    His reasoning?



    Now I don't think "I have an odd feeling in my gut" is enough to satisfy any court of anything other than you maybe being a little nervous or queasy. Butterflies in your tummy, you know?

    As to the latter...the "overreach of the state government" is also known as, "Forcing the county commissioners to do their jobs."

    Delicate, sensitive poo-baby snowflakes who continue to live in a fictional reality of their own makings.
    Nothing like someone that believes in "states rights" suddenly bitches about their "overreach" when it something happens they don't like.

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  4. #5824
    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    Nothing like someone that believes in "states rights" suddenly bitches about their "overreach" when it something happens they don't like.
    "We're for County Rights!"

    "We're for City Rights!"

    "We're for Individual Rights!"

    "The government has been abolished because WE ARE ALL OUR OWN MASTERS NOW!"

    Phew, that was a trip.

  5. #5825
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...-if-reelected/

    Once again, Trump is dangling the potential of pardons for Jan. 6 rioters if he's re-elected.

    Wonder why he didn't do them before he left office?
    Erm, not an expert on US law, but wouldn't telling people if they vote for him he will pardon them for crimes committed be classified as bribery?

  6. #5826
    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Erm, not an expert on US law, but wouldn't telling people if they vote for him he will pardon them for crimes committed be classified as bribery?
    Nope. He didn't promise anything. He just said he'd look very seriously.

  7. #5827
    Guessing this has been asked before but why haven't they forced Trump or Pence to testify?

  8. #5828
    Quote Originally Posted by Very Tired View Post
    Guessing this has been asked before but why haven't they forced Trump or Pence to testify?
    Because that would be unpresidented!! Probably don't want to turn it into a circus, and they know that he's fight it tooth and nail to the bitter end. Probably wouldn't happen before the midterms, and the committee would get dissolved by then anyway.
    Pence isn't super necessary, since they got all his aids that were by his side the whole time to testify.

  9. #5829
    Well, the Proud Boys has decided to assault Rep. Dan Crenshaw and staff.

    https://www.mediaite.com/online/brea...ain-at-tx-gop/

    Dan Crenshaw & Staff Assaulted by Right Wingers Shouting ‘Eyepatch McCain’ and Saying He Should be ‘Hung for Treason’

    Rep. Dan Crenshaw and his staff were violently confronted at the Republican Party of Texas convention a short time ago, when far-right social media activist Alex Stein and others whom witnesses described as Proud Boys began shouting “eyepatch McCain” at him – an attempted insult coined by Fox News Channel’s Tucker Carlson.

    A witness to the incident tells Mediaite that in addition to Stein and others being escorted out of the building, “some arrests” were made at the scene. No photos or video have come out showing any at the time of this post.

    “They got physical with multiple people, including hitting them with cameras,” a witness at the scene said. “His campaign manager was assaulted by being pushed aggressively into a pillar.”

    You can see that part in the video above, which was shared by Stein and his blog. That version included a clip from Tucker Carlson’s show, in which the host refers to Crenshaw as “Eyepatch McCain” while speaking with Democrat Tulsi Gabbard.

    In a photo shared with Mediaite, some of the ejected persons are seen outside the building wearing Proud Boys gear.

    Another Twitter user posted video of himself verbally accosting Rep. Crenshaw. There is no apparent shoving in the clip, but after shouting at the congressman, the user Alex Rosen shouts at various people in the hotel calling the congressman a “fraud” and a “World Economic Forum sell-out.” Another person applauds and shouts back that Crenshaw supports Red Flag laws.

    In the video, Rosen also yells at an elderly woman that she is the “reason we’re in this situation” after she objects to his behavior.

    At the end, another person with him shouts “Dan Crenshaw is a traitor! He needs to be hung for treason!” It may be the same individual seen in the red “45” hat in the above photo that was shared with Mediaite by witness.

    The full video, including the shouting at Rep. Crenshaw, is in the tweet.
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    So, Tucker Carlson screams "insurrection" at a comedy sketch done by Stephen Colbert's crew after they were arrested at the Capital building. One of the people arrested was Triumph the Insult Comic Dog.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...bbe97df10752a5

    Tucker Carlson Cries 'Insurrection' After Colbert Production Crew Arrested At Capitol

    Several crew members filming a comedy segment at the U.S. Capitol for “The Late Show With Stephen Colbert” were charged with unlawful entry earlier this week, leading prominent Republicans including Fox News host Tucker Carlson to falsely cry “insurrection.”

    “Last night, producers from Stephen Colbert’s show on CBS committed insurrection at the United States Capitol,” Carlson falsely claimed on his show Friday night.

    Carlson was referring to the arrest of seven production crew members for Colbert’s CBS show Thursday night, which was filming a segment in the Capitol with Triumph the Insult Comic Dog, a crass puppet voiced by comedian Robert Smigel. Capitol police said Friday that the arrests happened after the building had been closed to visitors and the crew had already been told to leave the building.

    Colbert’s team had finished up prearranged interviews with lawmakers and were filming “final comedy elements” in the building’s hallways when the arrests took place, CBS news said in a statement. All seven crew members were slapped with unlawful entry charges.

    The arrests quickly became fodder for Republicans looking to distract from this week’s hearings on the Jan. 6, 2021 Capitol attack by falsely equating the arrests of the crew members to the violence of former President Donald Trump’s supporters.

    “It’s exactly like what happened on Jan 6., so we’ll take a close look at what the punishments are,” Carlson told his viewers Friday night.

    He’s wrong. In the case of Jan. 6, five people died and more than 140 officers were injured after hundreds of Trump supporters stormed the Capitol in an attempt to stop the certification of President Joe Biden’s victory. In the case of Colbert’s crew, they were arrested filming a comedy segment featuring a puppet best known for hurting people’s feelings.

    And there were hurt feelings. Congresswoman and QAnon supporter Marjorie Taylor Greene took a photo of comedian Smigel with his puppet and posted it to Twitter to whine about “targeted harassment.”

    “Now all of you engaged in insurrection & enabled targeted harassment against me and my Republican colleagues,” Greene tweeted. “I’m telling the full story next week.”

    Disinformation merchant and Pizzagate peddler Mike Cernovich echoed a similar talking point on Twitter.

    “If they aren’t charged criminally the same as J6 defendants, then more evidence of selective prosecution arises,” Cernovich said in a tweet. “Judges can only rig stuff so much before the judiciary loses all legitimacy. Throw the book at these trespassers.”

    And Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-GA) took the opportunity to compare Colbert’s production crew being in the Capitol to a tour Loudermilk gave to Jan. 6 participants one day before the violence ensued.

    “So while they’re accusing me of giving illegal tours of the Capitol, they are giving illegal tours of the Capitol,” Loudermilk said, accusing Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) of allowing the production crew access.

    The difference, of course, is that comedian Smigel was armed with a microphone, and one of the men Loudermilk gave a tour to was later seen marching on the Capitol, filming an accomplice who was armed with a spear while making targeted threats against lawmakers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gondrin View Post
    So, Tucker Carlson screams "insurrection" at a comedy sketch done by Stephen Colbert's crew after they were arrested at the Capital building. One of the people arrested was Triumph the Insult Comic Dog.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...bbe97df10752a5
    Legally entered, had interview appointments with members. Stuck around to shoot B-roll and comedy elements. Overstayed their welcome and got shooed out.

    Anyone comparing this to Jan 6 can go choke on a fucking cactus, preferably rectally.


  11. #5831
    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-...robe-rcna34379

    Nice piece on how McCarthy's decision to have nothing to do with the Jan. 6 committee in an attempt to discredit it as partisan is blowing up in his face.

    Because not only are he and Republicans more broadly in the dark (Kinzinger and Cheney aren't sharing anything) so they have to react and figure out strategies in real time, but he essentially gave up the ability for the Republican party (again, outside of Kinzinger and Cheney, who are not in lock-step with the GOP on this topic) to turn this into the usual committee nonsense where someone like Gym Jordan (though not specifically him) spends 5+ minutes when it's turn to rail about the kangaroo court and Hunter Biden's laptop and waste time to distract from the findings.

    Which isn't surprising. Kevin McCarthy has proven himself to be a spectacularly weak, foolish man, who only has a political career because he sucks up to the right Republicans in power.

  12. #5832
    Now Trump calling McCarthy’s decision to yank all Republicans off Jan. 6 committee “foolish.”

    “it was a bad decision not to have representation on that committee,” Trump said. “That was a very, very foolish decision …”


    Haha! Trump is correct. Somebody had to tell this idiot this and he is parroting someone.

    Most thing you here about these Committee hearing are how well they are run. Fast, not boring sleeping of politicians droning on, etc. With Republicans, who likely helped commit the insurrection, would have easily gummed up and mucked up these hearing so bad. Basically as every other hearing a Shit Show.
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  13. #5833
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    Now Trump calling McCarthy’s decision to yank all Republicans off Jan. 6 committee “foolish.”

    “it was a bad decision not to have representation on that committee,” Trump said. “That was a very, very foolish decision …”


    Haha! Trump is correct. Somebody had to tell this idiot this and he is parroting someone.

    Most thing you here about these Committee hearing are how well they are run. Fast, not boring sleeping of politicians droning on, etc. With Republicans, who likely helped commit the insurrection, would have easily gummed up and mucked up these hearing so bad. Basically as every other hearing a Shit Show.
    What's hilarious is that even with Pelosi rejecting Gym Jordan and another Republican who may have been involved in the organizing, she repeatedly gave McCarthy the opportunity to let other members join the committee.

    And he repeatedly rejected her.

    And is not being criticized by Trump for not listening to Nancy Pelosi.

    Toppest of the top keks that ever top keked.

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    https://abc7chicago.com/adam-kinzing...sman/11977786/

    And now "Very Reasonable Republicans" are also sending death threats to Rep. Adam Kinzinger on the panel, simply for his involvement.

  14. #5834
    Rep. Jim Clyburn on CNN: "People are concerned that the Department of Justice may have too many carryovers from the last administration and [is] not moving in order to do what's needed to protect this democracy."

    I hope this is not the case and Clyburn is correct. Why would you have anyone from that previous administration in your department. This is why i despise the good will Biden Administration. If you didn't learn that keeping fascist in government positions not coming back to bite you is stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    Rep. Jim Clyburn on CNN: "People are concerned that the Department of Justice may have too many carryovers from the last administration and [is] not moving in order to do what's needed to protect this democracy."

    I hope this is not the case and Clyburn is correct. Why would you have anyone from that previous administration in your department. This is why i despise the good will Biden Administration. If you didn't learn that keeping fascist in government positions not coming back to bite you is stupid.
    Like, the usual argument is that they have to be super cautious about charging political figures with things like seditious conspiracy because of potential blowback.

    There's another word for attitudes like that.

    That word is "corruption". If the DoJ is hesitating for political, rather than prosecutorial, reasons, they're corrupt. If the Democrats won't do anything about it, they're corrupt.

    This is what corruption looks like. Exactly this.


  16. #5836
    Ex-Watergate Prosecutor Says Georgia Probe Is The One That Could 'Send Trump To Jail'
    Former Watergate prosecutor Nick Akerman said there is a rock-solid case against Donald Trump in the Georgia criminal probe into the former president’s demand that a state official “find” him more votes after the 2020 election.

    During an interview on MSNBC’s “The Katie Phang Show” on Sunday, Akerman said Trump could likely face an indictment as a Fulton County grand jury investigates his attempt to steal the vote in Georgia.

    In a recorded call from Trump to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger ahead of the official 2020 vote certification, Trump told the election official to “find” the 11,780 votes needed to reverse his loss to Joe Biden in the state.

    Akerman, who served as an assistant special prosecutor during the Watergate scandal that led to the resignation of former President Richard Nixon, said he believed that tape would be enough to lead to a possible conviction.

    “If you are asking which of the cases right now, which one is going to send Donald Trump to prison, that is the case,” he said. “There is a really neat three-year felony in Georgia, that Donald Trump has violated. Prosecutors love tape-recorded evidence because you cannot cross-examine it.”

    “What is significant with those tapes is that when you put it in context of all of the evidence that the January 6 committee has uncovered — you put that together, Donald Trump has zero defense in Georgia,” he added.

    “If I had to put my money on one prosecution that’s going to go forward here that will send Donald Trump to jail — it’s Georgia.”

    Trump may have violated several federal laws in his call with Raffensperger. Georgia state law also makes it a crime to willfully tamper with “any electors list, voter’s certificate, numbered list of voters, ballot box, voting machine, direct recording electronic (DRE) equipment, or tabulating machine” or to solicit another person to commit such a felony, punishable by a sentence of up to three years in prison.

    Trump’s only potential defense would be to “somehow pick up on some ambiguity in the tape, that he did not really mean what he said,” Akerman noted, though he doesn’t think that will stand up.

    “Put in the context about the January 6th committee has found, I think they have gotten a case beyond a reasonable doubt,” he said.

    The House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol has laid out damning evidence from thousands of hours of testimony and tens of thousands of pages of documents in hearings this month that create a picture of how Trump and his allies spread falsehoods about the 2020 election and tried to overturn the results despite knowing the accusations were untrue.

    Trump has argued his conversation with Raffensperger was “PERFECT and appropriate.”
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  17. #5837
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Like, the usual argument is that they have to be super cautious about charging political figures with things like seditious conspiracy because of potential blowback.

    There's another word for attitudes like that.

    That word is "corruption". If the DoJ is hesitating for political, rather than prosecutorial, reasons, they're corrupt. If the Democrats won't do anything about it, they're corrupt.

    This is what corruption looks like. Exactly this.
    Once again the Dems want to play touch tag when the Republicans are kicking the teeth in of the Dems. As stated above this reason was used for Bush and the Iraq War. "Well, we can't try to prosecute a President and staff, that will lead to the others not wanting to play nice". Sure, see if that works.
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  18. #5838
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...poena-1371644/

    Huh, so apparently a documentary team spent a lot of 2020 with team Trump and will be meeting with the committee this Thursday.

    “What the fuck is this?” a former top Trump 2020 official messaged Rolling Stone on Tuesday after seeing the Politico item.
    Based on the exchanges some media are having with members of Trump world, it seemed many had no clue this team/footage existed to begin with. Should be interesting.

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    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3...ates-electors/

    AZ Rep. Andy Biggs was pressing the AZ House Speaker Rusty Bowers on Jan. 6 to decertify the states electors, without providing any evidence or real reasons for why beyond, "Because I'm a fuckin retard."

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    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2106271.html

    Wisconsin’s Sen Ron Johnson wanted to hand-deliver a slate of fake “alternate” Electoral College voters to Vice President Mike Pence on the morning of January 6, according to a new set of text messages revealed by the January 6 committee on Tuesday.

    In a conversation obtained by the committee and shared publicly for the first time on Tuesday an aide to Mr Johnson told Mr Pence’s legislative director Chris Hodgson that the senator had the information to hand-deliver to the vice president when the latter was on Capitol Hill for the certification of the election later in the day.

    The aide to Mr Pence flatly rejected the request, according to the text messages. Mr Pence roundly dismissed the idea that he had constitutional authority to accept any fake sets of electors that were not the lawfully-submitted results from state legislatures in the weeks leading up to January 6.
    Send authoritarian, anti-Democratic fucks like Ron Johnson to prison. Glad Pence's legal team was at least smart enough not to fuck with all this transparently illegal shit.

  19. #5839
    At this point there is more than enough evidence with even more to come. Anyone still supporting Trump also supports the destruction of the US.

    There's no wiggle room on this.

  20. #5840
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...06285.html?amp

    Committee member Adam Schiff, a California Democrat, said during the hearing on Tuesday that “the Select Committee has received text messages indicating that Mark Meadows wanted to send some of the investigators in her office, in the words of one White House aide, ‘a s***load of POTUS stuff,’ including coins, actual autographed MAGA hats, etc”.

    “White House staff intervened to make sure that didn’t happen,” Mr Schiff said.
    Seriously, when do we start throwing the people who tried to undermine US democracy in prison?

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