1. #5861
    https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...rts-2022-6?amp

    More on the documentary footage that none of the Trump aides know was being filmed on Jan. 6 -

    According to the Times it had been organised by Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and was conceived of as a "legacy project" for Trump.
    Man, it's like Jared's trying to get kicked outta the family with his hilarious incompetence. Which is fortunate for us.

  2. #5862
    As far as the DOJ going softly on prosecutions goes, I assumed it was tactical to give the Republicans no optics to twist to their advantage. Wait for the material from the hearing to be out in public, request transcripts, action based on what the committee finds.

    Like it or not, the pursuing any elected (or former) official on the opposite side of the aisle is going to get messy, and I can see the logic in giving them the shortest length of rope possible to try and string you up with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...rts-2022-6?amp

    More on the documentary footage that none of the Trump aides know was being filmed on Jan. 6 -



    Man, it's like Jared's trying to get kicked outta the family with his hilarious incompetence. Which is fortunate for us.
    LMAO, that's beyond hilarious.

  3. #5863
    Key Jan. 6 witness says he’d vote for Trump again

    Rusty Bowers, the Arizona House Representative, who had devastating testimony on Jan. 6th Committee how he was pressured to replace electors of course came out with a resounding endorsement for Trump 2024.

    “If he is the nominee, if he was up against Biden, I’d vote for him again,” Bowers said. “Simply because what he did the first time, before COVID, was so good for the county. In my view it was great.”
    Always remember who these people are and remember Pence will say this too. Once more as we say they would rather have fascism than our Constitutional democracy choosing a Democrat. Going further they don't want any party elected but them. So the One-Party authoritarian is on people!
    “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States…. [It is] nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.’”

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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    Yep, Hammer is delusional.
    Hammer is a lot of things.

    Including a representative of no small amount of people out there. Conservatives are doing everything possible to come to terms with Jan 6th and it's implications including, but not limited to:
    - Claiming it was really a left wing group that stormed the capital.
    - Deciding Trump had nothing to do with it.
    - Deciding that 2020 was fraudulent so Jan 6th was actually justified and the morally right thing to do.
    - Deciding that democracy isn't worth it if it lets lefties in power, so anything to stay in power is acceptable.

    These people are lost. Beyond lost. The only solution is to do everything to keep them out of power until they all die off. Honestly.
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    It's called resistance / rebellion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    Key Jan. 6 witness says he’d vote for Trump again

    Rusty Bowers, the Arizona House Representative, who had devastating testimony on Jan. 6th Committee how he was pressured to replace electors of course came out with a resounding endorsement for Trump 2024.



    Always remember who these people are and remember Pence will say this too. Once more as we say they would rather have fascism than our Constitutional democracy choosing a Democrat. Going further they don't want any party elected but them. So the One-Party authoritarian is on people!
    Just a reminder that even the "good" Republicans aren't actually good Republicans.

    "Sure Trump tried to subvert our democratic process, but did you see how great Obama's economy was in his first few years!?"

  6. #5866
    Hahahaha! Democracy is going to die.

    Pence says Democrats using Jan 6. to ‘distract attention’


    In an interview with Fox News on Monday, Pence called Jan. 6 a “tragic day,” but also said that he and former President Trump “parted very amicably” on the last day of their administration despite what the committee laid out was a weeks-long campaign by Trump to pressure his vice president to overturn the 2020 election results.
    Amicably?!? I so want to say what maybe should have happened with Pence on Jan. 6th to change his mind, but that might be TOS. It's crazy tho, that if someone would have maybe edgelord it up and say this on a news cast that Republicans would be so offended.
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  7. #5867
    imagine trump is cheering his crowd to hang you and you still bootlick. pence needs an autopsy doing when he goes, surely has no spine.

  8. #5868
    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    imagine trump is cheering his crowd to hang you and you still bootlick. pence needs an autopsy doing when he goes, surely has no spine.
    Of course he has no spine. Dude knows he needs the votes of the people who tried to hang him… and probably even his family.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    I'm really sorry to burst your bubble but I've said this ages ago.

    This DoJ will absolutely not bring charges on any elected Republican. Neither for the January Coup nor for anything else for that matter.

    There is no long game here.

    Matt Gaetz is not going to prison not matter how many children he has sex with. Trump is untouchable and could murder and rape the corpse of someone on national TV and wouldn't be prosecuted.

    Idiots like Bannon and Guiliani don't count. But even those are likely to walk.

    The Democratic establishment in DC is absolutely useless. Nothing will come of these hearings. It's a waste of time.

    Come November the GOP will take Congress and proceed to impeach Biden once every 2 weeks for everything from breathing to falling off his bycicle. There will be no future judicial appointments and they will use their legislative powers to neuter and defund the DoJ, the FBI, DHS and possibly even the DoD.

    Like honestly. Do you guys live on the same planet I'm living on? I've said all this literally years ago, while everyone was fantasizing about how Garland is going to go get Gaetz, MTG etc.

    Lol guys.
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    Sadly this might become true. However I expect mob justice in the forms of massive riots, destruction of federal property, burning down trump owned property, and civil disobedience. And if these fucks get reelected, then far worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    imagine trump is cheering his crowd to hang you and you still bootlick. pence needs an autopsy doing when he goes, surely has no spine.
    He knows he has no political future without at least some of the Trump brigade so he's trying to court them as much as he can to try to capture the 2024 spot if Trump doesn't run.

    Which -- he's screwed because the Trump brigade is going to pick DeSantis. Pence's political future is over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    He knows he has no political future without at least some of the Trump brigade so he's trying to court them as much as he can to try to capture the 2024 spot if Trump doesn't run.

    Which -- he's screwed because the Trump brigade is going to pick DeSantis. Pence's political future is over.
    I for the life of me don't understand what Pence is doing to be honest.

    He has lifetime Secret Service protection...unless the MAGA crowd gets in power again. They might not forgive him for his little "treason" no matter what.

    Here's the problem with the alleged "sensible" GOP crowd. Every time they have a window to reign in the MAGA monster they created even just a little bit, they either fail to do so, or if they do, they quickly apologize and undo the little good they might have done.

    Which raises the question in my mind, just how much do they want to reign the MAGA monster in?

    I think it's more a case that deep down they agree with the MAGA monster, they are just surprised what the MAGA crowd can get away with. They do the "right thing" out of fear, but once they realize there's nothing to fear because there will be no consequences they go right along with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    I for the life of me don't understand what Pence is doing to be honest.
    He's trying to survive politically. He's trying to find that path forward to get back into power. He doesn't yet realize (or just hasn't given up) that the Trump folks hate him and without them he's done.
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    It's called resistance / rebellion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    He's trying to survive politically. He's trying to find that path forward to get back into power. He doesn't yet realize (or just hasn't given up) that the Trump folks hate him and without them he's done.
    Pretty much this. It's fascinating watching him walk the tightrope of trying to remain a "traditional Republican" while also frequently appealing to the Trump base...that literally wants to hang him.

    If nothing else, the reports of him and Mother couch surfing for a while were hilarious.

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    https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...reats-1372551/

    Welp, and the lawmakers on the panel are possibly getting 24/7 security now, too.

    Why? Because they're receiving direct and specific threats, like this one sent to Adam Kinzingers wife, at their home -



    Props for the handwritten note and the misspellings. Props to getting "blasphemous" right but points off for mispelling "Christian" at the end. Because of course these very good Republicans include children in their threats.

  14. #5874
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Pretty much this. It's fascinating watching him walk the tightrope of trying to remain a "traditional Republican" while also frequently appealing to the Trump base...that literally wants to hang him.

    If nothing else, the reports of him and Mother couch surfing for a while were hilarious.

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    https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...reats-1372551/

    Welp, and the lawmakers on the panel are possibly getting 24/7 security now, too.

    Why? Because they're receiving direct and specific threats, like this one sent to Adam Kinzingers wife, at their home -



    Props for the handwritten note and the misspellings. Props to getting "blasphemous" right but points off for mispelling "Christian" at the end. Because of course these very good Republicans include children in their threats.
    Chilling death threat there, thankfully if I'd received it the random capitalisation of "t" would be far too distracting working out when this author thought you should capitalise it and when you shouldn't.

    This is coming from someone who's handwriting is so bad I just write in all caps for legibility.

  15. #5875
    Quote Originally Posted by Kronik85 View Post
    This is coming from someone who's handwriting is so bad I just write in all caps for legibility.
    I do the same, but not because my handwriting is bad.

    I mean...it's bad for the most part, but that's just because 99% of the time I'm writing it's notes for myself and I don't care about that shit.

  16. #5876
    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    Of course he has no spine. Dude knows he needs the votes of the people who tried to hang him… and probably even his family.
    That's what I was thinking. Pence is putting on a show to get Trump voters.

  17. #5877
    Two interesting developments.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/22/polit...tee/index.html

    First off, fresh off his primary loss, Mo Brooks is apparently planning to voluntarily cooperate with the committee's request to speak with him - provided that the hearing is public. Now, whether this is so he can try to get back on Trump's good graces somehow or whether he wants to use this opportunity for revenge, who knows. I'm hoping for the latter, though.

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/20...elays-hearings

    The Committee has delayed additional hearings until next month. Why?

    “I don’t think we’ve established a date yet, but we have a mountain of new information that’s come in that we have to go through,” Lofgren told The Hill.
    Apparently the past few weeks have resulted in a LOT of new information and people willing to talk to them. And some other information they were waiting on is finally coming, like from the National Archives. Not to mention the documentary footage from the documentarian following Trump around on Jan. 6

    Man, this shit is wild.

  18. #5878
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...reats-1372551/

    Just Trump terrorists doing terrorist things. Threats against the J6 committee have ramped up. So now they are hiring more security for these members of congress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Two interesting developments.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/22/polit...tee/index.html

    First off, fresh off his primary loss, Mo Brooks is apparently planning to voluntarily cooperate with the committee's request to speak with him - provided that the hearing is public. Now, whether this is so he can try to get back on Trump's good graces somehow or whether he wants to use this opportunity for revenge, who knows. I'm hoping for the latter, though.

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/20...elays-hearings

    The Committee has delayed additional hearings until next month. Why?
    Even if it is the former, in that he thinks his testimony will "save" Trump... some of the most damning evidence so far have come from "Pro-trump sources" because they aren't smart enough to realize what they're saying Trump did is actually wildly illegal, regardless of whether they supported him doing it or not.
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Pence is putting on a show to get Trump voters.
    I don't get why. I'm not the only person here who thinks Pence can't run. He might want the Trump voters, but he can't get them. Trump will say "no" and that's that. It's a cult, after all.

    Also: if you have anything important to say to Derrack Evans, you might want to hurry. He's going to jail for 3 months for being part of the murderous insurrection. Someone caught him on tape, and he plead guilty.

    "Which commie librul traitor did that?"

    He filmed himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    Just Trump terrorists doing terrorist things.
    Just want to remind everyone, if they're thinking of responding to this, to look up the official definition of "terrorism". Because what Edge- said about these people being terrorists isn't an opinion. It's a dictionary definition.

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