1. #5881
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logwyn View Post
    1. President Trump engaged in a massive effort to spread false and fraudulent information to the American public claiming the 2020 election was stolen from him.
    2. President Trump corruptly planned to replace the Acting Attorney General, so that the Department of Justice would support his fake election claims.
    3. President Trump corruptly pressured Vice President Pence to refuse to count certified electoral votes in violation of the US Constitution and the law.
    4. President Trump corruptly pressured state election officials, and state legislators, to change election results.
    5. President Trump's legal team and other Trump associates instructed Republicans in multiple states to create false electoral slates and transmit those slates to Congress and the National Archives.
    6. President Trump summoned and assembled a violent mob in Washington and directed them to march on the US Capitol.
    7. As the violence was underway, President Trump ignored multiple pleas for assistance and failed to take immediate action to stop the violence and instruct his supporters to leave the Capitol.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/09/polit...lan/index.html

    Man, Sounds like Trump thought this was a different country or something. To think how the country would be if he had won. Hunger Games?
    But its CNN, that is fake news lol trump won

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    Quote Originally Posted by zEmini View Post
    But its CNN, that is fake news lol trump won
    I’m not personally interested in whether Trump’s hardcore followers believe this or not.

    I’m interested in whether this 1) is persuasive to independents and motivating to democrats and 2) if legal action is pursued because of this.

    The GOP only cares about whether they do bad things or not when someone forces punishment on them for having done it or it loses them power. As such, those are the only things I’m interested in as ramifications for this here inquisition.
    “Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

  3. #5883
    Each day I'm more disgusted by how traitorous republicans have been. There absolutely must be consequences. If Justice does nothing meaningful then what the fuck is the point of the USA existing?

  4. #5884
    When the Jan. 6 House panel resumes on Monday, it will outline how then-President Donald Trump knew early on that he had lost the election but engaged “in a massive effort to spread false and fraudulent information” to convince the public otherwise.


    So the One Big Thing here. If Trump wants to claim that he believed he won the election, then again his only defense is he is crazy (general word) or delusional. So with a "crazy" defense then this would mean he is doesn't have the mental facilities to ever run again. Well it is up to the electors and Lord help us.

    Otherwise, as we have knocked Trump's mental capacity he truth is he is there mentally enough to the con. He knew he lost and thus he was intentionally trying to overthrow a legit election and our democracy. MY GOODNESS! From after the election, to Jan. 6th and to this current day, I can't believe this is open and shut and these people have been jailed for treason.

    We are in a bad spot. Almost half the people are with Trump. The remaining people who understand the what is going on but those remaining who are in the dark for some reason will kill destroy our democracy.
    “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States…. [It is] nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.’”

    -Isaac Asimov

  5. #5885
    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    We are in a bad spot. Almost half the people are with Trump. The remaining people who understand the what is going on but those remaining who are in the dark for some reason will kill destroy our democracy.
    Man, I really need to bookmark the video if that Trump lady speaking to Bannon at an event saying something to the effect of, "I never wanted a dictator in my lifetime, but if we need to have one I want it to be Donald Trump." The TYT video is always the one that pops up, but it's like 10 minutes of them gabbing on after the 20 second clip. I just want the 20 second clip.

    The anti-democratic authoritarianism isn't a bug of the modern Republican party, it's the damned foundation of it.

  6. #5886
    Man, this country is doomed when you have an entire "news" network that ignores something like this and refuses to show it live.
    Then looking at the right wing rag the NY Post basically ignoring it as well.

    the two biggest sources of media who always claimed to be fair, balanced and without bias.

    Sad just sad.
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

  7. #5887
    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    When the Jan. 6 House panel resumes on Monday, it will outline how then-President Donald Trump knew early on that he had lost the election but engaged “in a massive effort to spread false and fraudulent information” to convince the public otherwise.


    So the One Big Thing here. If Trump wants to claim that he believed he won the election, then again his only defense is he is crazy (general word) or delusional. So with a "crazy" defense then this would mean he is doesn't have the mental facilities to ever run again. Well it is up to the electors and Lord help us.

    Otherwise, as we have knocked Trump's mental capacity he truth is he is there mentally enough to the con. He knew he lost and thus he was intentionally trying to overthrow a legit election and our democracy. MY GOODNESS! From after the election, to Jan. 6th and to this current day, I can't believe this is open and shut and these people have been jailed for treason.

    We are in a bad spot. Almost half the people are with Trump. The remaining people who understand the what is going on but those remaining who are in the dark for some reason will kill destroy our democracy.
    Thing is, around 40% or so of the electorate will always be with one side or another regardless of reason. It does not matter what is said, they will always side with "Their Guy". It is the final 15 - 20% that people try to sway. That is what I hope this does. Sways those undecided voters to never vote for him. To vote for a rock on the ground before him.

    Honestly, for the past nearly 20 years, the US has been in an active Cold Civil War between ideologies. It is just now coming to a head. The far right fascists have been there for a long, long time. Almost 160 years to be honest. They found their leader and are now emboldened. I just hope the current administration has the balls to actually prosecute those involved.

    EDIT: Let me clarify the first part, the GOP is more likely to vehemently support their guy regardless of who is there more so then the DNC. However, both sides do have their base that will vote for whomever is put in front of them.
    Last edited by gondrin; 2022-06-10 at 08:17 PM.

  8. #5888
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/10/b...g-ratings.html

    Because it matters to some people early/incomplete ratings for the hearings are in. 19M viewers, which pales in comparison to debates (60-70M) or the SOTU (38M), but does have similar numbers to Sunday Night Football or the Macy's Thanksgiving parade.

    Per Nielson, folks that tuned in mostly stuck around for the whole two hours, as well. This does not include Fox, who did not carry the hearing live (they had split-screen coverage without audio), whose evening programming of Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity drew their average 3M viewers and spent their whole shows complaining about and attempting to discredit the committee.

    Still waiting on more networks to report numbers and should have a more accurate tally by this evening.

  9. #5889
    Ted Cruz trying his hardest to imply it was an fbi psy ops

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...heory-1282885/


    The republican party is evil
    Last edited by NED funded; 2022-06-10 at 08:41 PM.

  10. #5890
    Quote Originally Posted by gondrin View Post
    Thing is, around 40% or so of the electorate will always be with one side or another regardless of reason. It does not matter what is said, they will always side with "Their Guy". It is the final 15 - 20% that people try to sway. That is what I hope this does. Sways those undecided voters to never vote for him. To vote for a rock on the ground before him.
    Yes. This was what I should have written more clearly. Let's say 40% is always Team Red and 40% is always Team Blue. My statement and as you stated around the 15-20% don't seem to grasp what has happened here. From polls and the past 2020 elections Team Red still had strong showing since well they tried to overthrow our government. On the federal level Congress people were voting against their states valid election results on Jan 6th. Plus a super majority would not state who legitimately won the election.

    So yes this is why we are in a bad spot. Besides the 40% we should have a strong majority of America understanding you cannot elect a political party who will likely attempt this again.
    “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States…. [It is] nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.’”

    -Isaac Asimov

  11. #5891
    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    Ted Cruz trying his hardest to imply it was an fbi psy ops

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...heory-1282885/


    The republican party is evil
    Oh man, watching a sitting US Senator simp for a white supremacist TV host after the TV host humiliated, "cucked", and dressed him down on live-TV is incredibly on-brand for the Republican party.

  12. #5892
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Oh man, watching a sitting US Senator simp for a white supremacist TV host after the TV host humiliated, "cucked", and dressed him down on live-TV is incredibly on-brand for the Republican party.
    Well, that is how you get Ted Cruz to work for you. Make fun of him, his wife and his family. I mean, he did run phone banks for Trump after Trump called his wife ugly or something to that sort.

  13. #5893
    Quote Originally Posted by gondrin View Post
    Well, that is how you get Ted Cruz to work for you. Make fun of him, his wife and his family. I mean, he did run phone banks for Trump after Trump called his wife ugly or something to that sort.
    Rafael Cruz*

    Really, I think most of the Republican party has a humiliation/cuck fetish at this point.

    It's just weird that the "alpha" is a pencil-necked, bow-tie wearing dweeb who used to work for CNN like Tucker Carlson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gondrin View Post
    Well, that is how you get Ted Cruz to work for you. Make fun of him, his wife and his family. I mean, he did run phone banks for Trump after Trump called his wife ugly or something to that sort.
    The pic I saw, captioned "Saw that again about my wife and I'll lick your other ball".
    Not posting because no posting of memes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    The pic I saw, captioned "Saw that again about my wife and I'll lick your other ball".
    Not posting because no posting of memes.
    PoliticalHumor subreddit is going nuts in a good way over the hearing. Also, I believe Fox News messed up by not showing it but talked about it. I think they forgot about the Streisand Effect. Try to block something from being shown and more people will go try and see what all the fuss is about.

  16. #5896
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Oh man, watching a sitting US Senator simp for a white supremacist TV host after the TV host humiliated, "cucked", and dressed him down on live-TV is incredibly on-brand for the Republican party.
    My Ted Cruz take is every speech and anytime he gets do his little spiel in front of a camera, I bet in his mind he is saying "I am Killing It!". I'm sure he goes home and watches himself over and over. Well like his cuck porn likes I have a bet he finds the same gratification in his own speeches.
    “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States…. [It is] nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.’”

    -Isaac Asimov

  17. #5897
    Quote Originally Posted by Blur4stuff View Post
    Each day I'm more disgusted by how traitorous republicans have been. There absolutely must be consequences. If Justice does nothing meaningful then what the fuck is the point of the USA existing?
    "They learned their lesson. This won't happen again" -- Susan Collins, probably
    Quote Originally Posted by Grokan View Post
    Man, there really should have been an Xzibit cameo in Inception.

  18. #5898
    Quote Originally Posted by Chonogo View Post
    "They learned their lesson. This won't happen again" -- Susan Collins, probably
    They should give her the title to "Senator of the state of Concern" every time she enters the room.

  19. #5899
    Donald Trump posted on shittier Twitter, aka Truth Social, who is actively banning people that talk about the January 6th meeting last night, that Ivanka Trump "checked out" when it came to election fraud, and she was just being nice and agreeing with Bill Barr.

    "Ivanka Trump was not involved in looking at, or studying, Election results. She had long since checked out and was, in my opinion, only trying to be respectful to Bill Barr and his position as Attorney General (he sucked!)," Trump wrote on his social media platform, Truth Social.
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/10/polit...y-6/index.html

    Didn't take him long to make excuses and throw his daughter under the bus.

  20. #5900
    So is Ginni gonna be mentioned... or are friends where Cheney draws the line when exposing the truth?
    Fairy tales are more than true–not because they tell us dragons exist, but because they tell us dragons can be beaten. -G. K. Chesterton & Neil Gaiman

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