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    https://www.kwtx.com/2023/05/23/cent...-insurrection/

    Christopher Grider, the Central Texas vineyard owner who claims the government misinterpreted his intentions after he entered the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, was sentenced to just less than seven years in prison Tuesday for his role in the unprecedented insurrection.

    U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly sentenced the 41-year-old Grider in Washington, D.C., to 83 months in federal prison. She also ordered him to make $5,044 in restitution for the damage he caused to the iconic building and to be placed on supervised release for three years following his release from prison.

    Grider, who has three sons and a 3-week-old daughter, was seeking a prison term in the range of 18 months, while the government asked the judge to send him to prison for a term at the high end of the sentencing guidelines recommendation. He faced a maximum prison term of 39½ years.

    Grider, whose wife and infant daughter attended Tuesday’s sentencing, requested that he be allowed to serve his time at the federal prison in Bastrop. The judge allowed him to remain free until July 18, when he was ordered to voluntarily surrender to the federal Bureau of Prisons. The judge also ordered Grider to surrender the $800 he raised in a Go Fund Me account before it was closed.
    More families being torn apart because of the Big Lie and idiots who uncritically believed it, joining an attempted violent insurrection.

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    https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/co...g_on_us_right/

    So if people want to hear some insurrectionist sympathizers talk about literal demons descending on us and how terrible all this is because a handful of Proud Bois got convicted of seditious conspiracy.

    These people were very sensitive and delicate and emotional, lots of tears and anger, they were going through the stages of grief.

    I don't get the whole, "Leave yourself in the frame just doing some random shit as if you matter." bit of the video, but enjoy the tears y'all. Fuck these losers.

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    https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/25/polit...ggs/index.html

    The federal judge presiding over sentencing for Oath Keepers members convicted of seditious conspiracy has ruled that militia leader Stewart Rhodes’ actions amounted to domestic terrorism.

    The finding signals that Rhodes, 58, may face decades in prison when he is formally sentenced later Thursday.
    As we've been fucking saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Update;
    Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes sentenced to 18 years for Jan. 6

    A federal judge sentenced Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes to 18 years in prison Thursday and accepted the government's recommendation of an enhancement for terrorism for his role leading a seditious conspiracy to disrupt the certification of President Joe Biden's election victory that culminated in the violent assault on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

    For the first time in a Jan. 6 case, D.C. District Judge Amit Mehta accepted the government's recommendation to apply an enhancement for terrorism in Rhodes' sentencing. Mehta agreed with prosecutors that Rhodes "inspired the use of violence" in his followers to disrupt the certification and that his conduct met the legal definition of terrorism intended to influence the actions of government.

    Mehta cited the stockpile of weapons the Oath Keepers had amassed just outside of Washington, D.C. on Jan. 6, as well as Rhodes' orders for members to delete incriminating messages after the Capitol assault.

    "You, sir, present an ongoing threat and peril to this country," Mehta told Rhodes just before handing down his sentence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    A federal judge sentenced Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes to 18 years in prison Thursday and accepted the government's recommendation of an enhancement for terrorism for his role leading a seditious conspiracy to disrupt the certification of President Joe Biden's election victory that culminated in the violent assault on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.
    The conviction of another objectively guilty terrorist is cause for cheering.

    This implies Rhodes had nobody else higher up the chain to rat out. Well, if he was the ringleader, so be it. He failed, he was caught, he was tried, and he was convicted. He will go down in history as the head of a violent terrorist failure of a coup.

    Related, but far lesser: the guy you saw sitting at Pelosi's desk with his feet up and a stungun aimed down his pants got 4.5 years. Doesn't compare to 18 years, but his crying and pleading for mercy on the grounds that "everyone else was doing it, I just wanted to be popular" no really

    The photos of Barnett lounging at a desk in Pelosi's office made him one of the most memorable figures from the riot. Barnett, 63, testified he was "going with the flow" and struck a pose after news photographers told him to "act natural."

    He told the judge that joining the riot was "an enigma in my life" that he regretted, but said prosecutors wanted him to be "remorseful for things I did not do."

    "Jan. 6 was a traumatic day for everyone, not just law enforcement," he said. He has vowed to appeal his conviction. He testified at trial that he was swept along with the crowd into the Capitol, and was looking for a bathroom when he unwittingly entered Pelosi's office and encountered two news photographers.
    He has every right to appeal, but when he showed seven billion people a selfie of himself tresspassing with a weapon, his odds seem poor. Still, way less than 18 years and begin branded a literal traitor for his actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    The conviction of another objectively guilty terrorist is cause for cheering.

    This implies Rhodes had nobody else higher up the chain to rat out. Well, if he was the ringleader, so be it. He failed, he was caught, he was tried, and he was convicted. He will go down in history as the head of a violent terrorist failure of a coup.

    Related, but far lesser: the guy you saw sitting at Pelosi's desk with his feet up and a stungun aimed down his pants got 4.5 years. Doesn't compare to 18 years, but his crying and pleading for mercy on the grounds that "everyone else was doing it, I just wanted to be popular" no really



    He has every right to appeal, but when he showed seven billion people a selfie of himself tresspassing with a weapon, his odds seem poor. Still, way less than 18 years and begin branded a literal traitor for his actions.
    I was very happy to see "Sitting-on-Pelosi's-Desk-Guy" get jail time, and relatively significant at that. For those not familiar with the federal system of jails in the United States, those 4.5 years will be VERY hard.

    Ring leader getting 18 was fantastic.

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    FOX News (and others) report on two of Rhodes' associates also being sentenced. Incidentally the headline is "2 more Oath Keepers sentenced for J6 riot day after Rhodes gets record-setting prison term" Yeah, the problem isn't the sentence, fuckwits. Rhodes is a traitor.

    Two Army veterans
    Yeah, the story opens with that. I think it's clear FOX News is trying to convey a message here. We're not giving them any sympathy because they're vets. If anything, they sould be retroactively court martialled. They're traitors.

    who stormed the U.S. Capitol in a military-style formation with fellow members of the Oath Keepers were sentenced Friday to prison terms, a day after the far-right extremist group's founder received a record-setting 18-years behind bars in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack.

    U.S. District Judge Amit Mehta sentenced Jessica Watkins, of Woodstock, Ohio, to eight years and six months behind bars and sentenced Kenneth Harrelson, of Titusville, Florida, to four years in prison.

    A federal jury acquitted Watkins and Harrelson of the seditious conspiracy charge that Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes was found guilty of in November. But jurors convicted Watkins and Harrelson of other Jan. 6 charges, including obstructing Congress’ certification of President Joe Biden’s victory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    "You, sir, present an ongoing threat and peril to this country," Mehta told Rhodes just before handing down his sentence.[/i]
    So this was one of the leaders organizing the attack? Good to hear.

    It's frightening living where I'm at where we have a card-carrying member of the Oath Keepers in our neighborhood. Only found out when he put on a bumper sticker but he hasn't tried anything yet. Told the police to keep an eye on them.

    Then I've got my dad, who even now still insists it wasn't a terrorist attack. He's not a member of any hostile groups that I know of, as far as I can tell he's just an idiot who gets his news from far right sources more often than not. Both my parents are leaning away from reality as of the last 5 years or so and it's hard to watch and impossible to reason with.
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    Having the authority to do a thing doesn't make it just, moral, or even correct.

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    Someone set up a gofundme for Ashlii Babbitt's mother, and now the mother isn't getting a single penny of it because the person that set it up stole it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    Someone set up a gofundme for Ashlii Babbitt's mother, and now the mother isn't getting a single penny of it because the person that set it up stole it all.

    https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...Cx1cfj45QuAAAA
    A republican style charity/gofundme never goes to those it "intends" to. Like the cancer charity money Trumps steal, the wall money, or this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powerogue View Post
    So this was one of the leaders organizing the attack?
    No, that was the politicians telling everyone to go do that stuff. These were just the "in the mob" organizers. We have still yet to actually do anything about the people who were trying to incite all this shit. Hopefully we'll see those indictments go out before the end of the year...

  10. #6510
    https://apnews.com/article/capitol-r...0c3e47cb840d6b

    A Pennsylvania restaurant owner who screamed death threats directed at then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi while storming the U.S. Capitol was sentenced on Tuesday to more than two years in prison.

    Pauline Bauer was near Pelosi’s office suite on Jan. 6, 2021, when she yelled at police officers to bring out the California Democrat so the mob of Donald Trump supporters could hang her.

    In January, U.S. District Judge Trevor McFadden convicted Bauer of riot-related charges after hearing trial testimony without a jury. The judge sentenced her to two years and three months of imprisonment, giving her credit for the several months she already has served in jail, court records show.

    Prosecutors had recommended a prison sentence of six years and six months for Bauer, 55, of Kane, Pennsylvania.

    Bauer was part of the mob that forced police officers on the East Plaza to retreat. After forcing her way into the Capitol, she accosted officers who were trying to secure the Rotunda, shoving one of them, and yelled at police to “bring them out or we’re coming in,” according to federal prosecutors.

    “They’re criminals. They need to hang,” she screamed. “Bring Nancy Pelosi out here now. We want to hang (her). Bring her out.”

    Other rioters shouted threats against Pelosi while they roamed through the Capitol.

    “Bauer’s threat to hang Speaker Pelosi was real, imminent, and placed the Speaker of the House in danger,” prosecutor James Peterson wrote in a court filing.

    Bauer traveled from her north Pennsylvania home to attend then-President Donald Trump’s “Stop the Steal” rally in Washington on Jan. 6. She had attended a “Stop the Steal” rally in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, a day earlier.

    She came to Washington with at least five other people who have been charged in the Capitol riot, including co-defendant William Blauser, who pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge. Last year, McFadden ordered Blauser to pay a $500 fine but didn’t sentence him to any term of incarceration or probation.
    Watching "peaceful tourists" get years of prison time for joining in "peaceful tours" continues to be my new favorite past time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    I was very happy to see "Sitting-on-Pelosi's-Desk-Guy" get jail time, and relatively significant at that. For those not familiar with the federal system of jails in the United States, those 4.5 years will be VERY hard.
    You know who agrees with you? Sitting-on-Pelosi's-Desk-Guy himself. Not only is he appealling on the grounds of "I don't want to go to prison for all that stuff I did" but he's also begging the judge for three months to get his life in order before going to federal prison.

    In a court filing late Wednesday, Gross wrote that Barnett needs time “to liquidate personal property and try to earn some extra income” to help his significant other, who is disabled.

    “Additionally, he needs to do repairs to her home to make sure everything is in working order and other miscellaneous projects that will be unduly burdensome on her as she is not in a financial position to hire someone to do these projects,” wrote Gross.
    The article goes on to say such a request isn't all that rare. But two questions are raised:
    1) If he was the sole lifeline that would keep his disabled partner from starving to death, why the fuck did he go to DC for several days?
    2) If he was the sole lifeline that would keep his disabled partner from starving to death, why the fuck did he engage in a massive public violent terrorist crime?

    "Surely he didn't think it was a crime."

    They broke into a guarded federal buidling, yes he did.

    "So you're saying he's insane?"

    I mean...

    At the end of Wednesday’s hearing, Gross told the court that Barnett’s first choice would be the minimum-security federal prison camp in Yankton, S.D., which has a dog-training program. His second and third choices were the minimum-security prison camps in Pensacola, Fla., and Montgomery, Ala.

    U.S. District Judge Christopher R. Cooper told Barnett going to prison wasn’t like choosing a hotel, but he would recommend the prisons that Barnett requested, noting that the Bureau of Prisons may not follow his recommendation.

    The Pretrial Services representative also told Barnett that the Bureau of Prisons doesn’t usually support a placement recommendation that is over 500 miles away from the defendant’s residence, according to Gross.
    He's begging for minimum security. Funny story: the building he violently broke into had more than minimum security. He's a violent terrorist and should be treated as such.

    We'll find out if he's white enough to get Club Fed.

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    https://www.thedailybeast.com/ashli-...ro-jan-6-event

    Huh, so Ashli Babbit's (lady killed for not listening to the orders of an armed law enforcement officer warning about their imminent use of deadly force to prevent rioters from entering a secure area of the Capitol through a shattered window) mom got arrested today for assaulting a counter-protester at what I guess was a pro-Jan 6 protest?

    Granted the assault is basically just smashing a megaphone lol, but it's all still hilarious to me. Bunch of conspiratorial losers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/ashli-...ro-jan-6-event

    Huh, so Ashli Babbit's (lady killed for not listening to the orders of an armed law enforcement officer warning about their imminent use of deadly force to prevent rioters from entering a secure area of the Capitol through a shattered window) mom got arrested today for assaulting a counter-protester at what I guess was a pro-Jan 6 protest?

    Granted the assault is basically just smashing a megaphone lol, but it's all still hilarious to me. Bunch of conspiratorial losers.
    Apple didn't fall far from the tree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    he's also begging the judge for three months to get his life in order before going to federal prison.

    We'll find out if he's white enough to get Club Fed.
    DOUBLE UPDATE: His requests were denied on the grounds of "how dare you even ask" which I believe is Penal Code F.U.

    Defendant has had ample time since his conviction to prepare for his incarceration and presents no compelling reasons to justify additional delay.

    Defendant’s request for a recommendation for a (Bureau of Prisons) placement beyond 500 miles from his home in order to qualify him for a minimum-security facility is also DENIED. Determinations regarding security-level placements lie in the sound discretion of BOP based on its internal criteria. The Court generally plays no role in those determinations.
    Get rekt, you fucking violent terrorist. You go to violent felon jail where you belong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/ashli-...ro-jan-6-event

    Huh, so Ashli Babbit's (lady killed for not listening to the orders of an armed law enforcement officer warning about their imminent use of deadly force to prevent rioters from entering a secure area of the Capitol through a shattered window) mom got arrested today for assaulting a counter-protester at what I guess was a pro-Jan 6 protest?

    Granted the assault is basically just smashing a megaphone lol, but it's all still hilarious to me. Bunch of conspiratorial losers.
    If I had to imagine a charitable point of view for this lady, I’d guess that she was quite distraught at her daughter’s death, no matter how “play stupid games win stupid prizes” it was. The reverence these conspiratorial loons displayed for her daughter’s role in an insurrection she perhaps confused with “compassion” in her time of grief, and fell straight into their crazy arms.

    (That’s all assuming she wasn’t the already whackadoo piece of work her daughter turned out to be)

    So take it as a warning, kids: Dangerous misinformation doesn’t only ruin your life.
    “Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Two more Oath Keeper defendants sentenced for Jan. 6 sedition

    Last January, the two were found guilty of conspiring to commit sedition against the United States. That jury convicted both men of three additional felonies, finding they had plans to disrupt the electoral college certification and were -- at least partially -- successful.

    Hackett, a former chiropractor from Florida, was also found guilty for destroying evidence.

    "I regret being there that day," Hackett told the judge Friday. "I regret ever joining the Oath Keepers."

    Moerschel expressed regret to the court on Friday and said he was wrong to take orders from top Oath Keepers on Jan. 6, 2021.

    "I don’t mean anything bad about Kelly Meggs, but he’s a used car salesman," he said. "It was really dumb to follow that guy."
    Three years each.

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    think we might be reaching some kind of record for felony charges/convictions stemming from a single event?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    think we might be reaching some kind of record for felony charges/convictions stemming from a single event?
    I'd put money that's only for the US.
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    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    I think what they really regret is being caught.

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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    Someone set up a gofundme for Ashlii Babbitt's mother, and now the mother isn't getting a single penny of it because the person that set it up stole it all.

    https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...Cx1cfj45QuAAAA
    This time for sure.

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