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    YouTube is allowing content creators to spread election fraud misinformation.

    https://apnews.com/article/youtube-e...04eb76ad443247

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    Quote Originally Posted by CastletonSnob View Post
    YouTube is allowing content creators to spread election fraud misinformation.

    https://apnews.com/article/youtube-e...04eb76ad443247
    This line just means "We'll make more money and we've seen that banning it doesn't actually hurt enough people for us to care."

    “In the current environment, we find that while removing this content does curb some misinformation, it could also have the unintended effect of curtailing political speech without meaningfully reducing the risk of violence or other real-world harm,” the blog post said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CastletonSnob View Post
    YouTube is allowing content creators to spread election fraud misinformation.

    https://apnews.com/article/youtube-e...04eb76ad443247
    I cancelled my YT premium when they allowed Trump back. With that as my stated reason.
    So I'm not surprised!
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    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/jus...ided-rcna88111

    The owner of a chain of funeral homes on Long Island was arrested by the FBI on Wednesday and charged in connection with the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, NBC News has learned.

    Peter G. Moloney of Bayport has been accused of spraying insecticide at police officers and assaulting members of the media, law enforcement officials said.

    He faces charges of felony civil disorder; assaulting, resisting, or impeding certain officers; assault by striking; and five additional misdemeanor charges, according to charging documents unsealed on Wednesday.

    "Moloney did not simply march to the Capitol with other protestors. He brought protective eyewear, a helmet, and a can of Black Flag Wasp, Hornet & Yellow Jacket Killer," an FBI agent stated in an affidavit against Moloney. "This indicates that he went to the Capitol on January 6, 2021, prepared for violence." The agent added that Moloney had assaulted law enforcement officers with the can of spray.

    Authorities said Moloney also assaulted an Associated Press photographer as well as videographer Nick Quested — who was referred to by his initials "N.Q." in the affidavit — during the riot by pulling on their cameras and causing them to fall down some stairs.

    Moloney's son accompanied his father to the Capitol on Jan. 6 but has not been charged with a crime, according to the charging document. The son — referred to by the FBI as "Colleague 1" — works at the family’s funeral home, and has appeared in advertisements for the business.
    The family that joins attempted insurrections together uh...I don't have anywhere to go with this but fuck these losers lol

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    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/jus...riot-rcna88135

    A Hollywood actor who appeared on “Mr. Show,” “Arrested Development,” "Bob's Burgers" and in “Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy” has been arrested in California and charged in connection with the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol.

    Jay Johnston faces charges of felony obstruction of officers during civil disorder as well as several misdemeanor offenses, according to court documents.

    The Daily Beast reported in December 2021 that Johnston had been "banned" from "Bob's Burgers," where he voiced the character of Jimmy Pesto Sr.

    Johnston was one of hundreds of Jan. 6 participants identified by online sleuths who have not yet been arrested. A Long Island funeral home owner was also arrested on Wednesday.
    The number of dudes that just woke up and chose to ruin their careers for Orange Mussolini is really weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/jus...ided-rcna88111



    The family that joins attempted insurrections together uh...I don't have anywhere to go with this but fuck these losers lol

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    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/jus...riot-rcna88135



    The number of dudes that just woke up and chose to ruin their careers for Orange Mussolini is really weird.
    2 thoughts ran through my head upon seeing that guys name since I went to high school with a Jay Johnston.

    First thought: I can completely believe that backassward dickhole fucks from that area would do that.
    Second thought: Jay was a good guy who last I was aware went door to door to get people out to vote for Biden.
    Not the same guy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    I was bummed to see Jay Johnston be a part of all this back when it happened and the FBI released his picture. I'm a big fan of Mr. Show so I just have to compartmentalize and remember the times before he was an insurrectionist wacko.

    Glad to see them finally get around to nabbing him.
    /s

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    DOJ seeks 14-year prison sentence for Jan. 6 rioter who pleaded guilty to using Taser on police officer

    According to a sentencing memorandum filed last week, federal prosecutors argued that Daniel Rodriguez’s actions on that day add up to domestic terrorism, referring to him as a “one of the most violent defendants” on Jan 6.

    Rodriguez, a Fontana, California resident, pleaded guilty earlier in February to conspiracy, obstruction of an official proceeding, obstruction of justice, and assaulting a law enforcement officer with a dangerous weapon as part of his plea deal.

    Rodriguez also admitted to assaulting Fanone during the insurrection, tasing the former police officer twice in the back of his neck, as Fanone was then dragged into the crowd by other rioters.

    Fanone, who currently serves as a law enforcement analyst for CNN, suffered a minor heart attack and a traumatic brain injury in the attack, resulting in his resignation from the police force.

    Federal prosecutors said that Rodriguez was part of a Telegram group chat called “Patriots 45 MAGA Gang,” created in 2020, in which group members used the platform to coordinate their activities before, during and after the riot, which includes stockpiling weapons and tactical gear to bring to Washington, D.C.
    Stockpiling weapons for the express purpose to bring to the Jan 6th murderous insurrection does, indeed, sound like the intent to use force or violence to change political discourse. Also known as "terrorism".

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    A change of pace: a light sentence.

    A Washington, D.C., chiropractor who admitted that he “scuffled” with officers during the Jan. 6 Capitol attack was sentenced to 60 days of incarceration on Tuesday, with U.S. District Judge Jia M. Cobb saying she did not believe his claims about why he was at the Capitol.

    David Walls-Kaufman of the Capitol Hill Chiropractic Center was arrested in June 2022 and pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of “parading, demonstrating or picketing in a Capitol building,” in January.

    Walls-Kaufman was originally scheduled to be sentenced in May, but Cobb delayed it after receiving letters from family members of Jeffrey Smith, a Metropolitan Police Department officer who died by suicide shortly after Jan. 6.

    Smith’s widow filed a lawsuit against Walls-Kaufman and another man, Taylor Taranto, shortly after they were identified by online sleuths, accusing them of assaulting and playing a role in her husband’s death. Taranto, who lives in Washington state and has not been arrested or charged in connection with Jan. 6, has acknowledged being at the Capitol that day but denied any involvement in Smiths’ death. Walls-Kaufman was not charged with assaulting Smith and also denies a role in his death.
    But let's not let this thread get too stale. More is coming.

    Nevada 'fake electors' appear before D.C. grand jury investigating Jan. 6

    Yes, I'm putting that here. They were part of the insurrection, they just didn't try to murder anyone directly to do it.

    Nevada GOP Chair Michael McDonald, a close Trump political ally, as well as Jim DeGraffenreid, the state party’s vice chair, were spotted by NBC News entering the area where the Jan. 6 jury is meeting at the Washington federal courthouse Tuesday.

    When asked about having to appear the same day as Trump’s court date, McDonald joked to an NBC News reporter: “Not on my bucket list.” McDonald had previously confirmed to NBC News that federal authorities seized his cellphone as part of the investigation.

    The appearance comes a week after former Trump White House official Steve Bannon was subpoenaed by a federal grand jury in Washington in connection with special counsel Jack Smith’s investigation into Jan. 6. The Bannon subpoena, for documents and testimony, was sent out late last month, the sources said.

    In addition, at least one former Trump White House aide testified on June 1 before the grand jury, hearing evidence about the former president in its ongoing investigation surrounding the election, according to a source familiar with the appearance. The testimony focused on Trump's firing of Christopher Krebs in 2020. At the time, Krebs led the federal government’s election cybersecurity efforts and debunked false claims of election fraud and hacking.

    Mike Pence also testified before the grand jury in April.
    The people who actually tried to rig the election, not the deplorable thugs who tried to murder Pence and other government officials to stop the real election, are facing serious charges themselves. We're just now at the grand jury phase, and therefore, this thread could go on for some time.

    One thousand arrests and counting. Every facet of the insurrection must be dragged into the light of day and brought to justice. I don't expect the fake electors to get decades, plural, of jail time, but I'm hoping the grand jury sees what they did as severe enough to pull them into court -- maybe get some guilty pleas and therefore felony convictions from these non-directly-violent insurrection members.

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    Rudy Giuliani Used A Female Alias In Emails About Plan To Overturn The Election

    Specifically, rhelen0528 (at gmail dot com)

    No, that's not his official email address.

    Giuliani claims

    That was my main Gmail account since I had Gmail. And somehow others were created for specific purposes, but that would cover 95 percent of any email I had and probably every important one.
    Incidentally, his mother's name was Helen. She died in 2002, Gmail started in 2004. So he didn't steal his dead mother's already existing email account, he intentionally created one in her name after she died.

    Worth noting, Giuliani's "mother's" email is one of several attempted anonymous emails involved in a suit by two Georgia election officials -- guess what that's about -- and communicated with such people as Lucy3413@hushmail.com whose identity is still unkn--

    "What the fuck is hushmail?"

    Yeah, the fact that you don't know who they are should tell you something. They're an email business that prides its privacy and claims they'll only hand over encrypted files, not decrypted files, and only if SCOTCanada demands it. While going after Georgia election workers, Giuliani was using an alias and communicating with other people using aliases.

    Maybe I'm misreading this. Has literally anyone in this thread intentionally created an email account, named after another person who was not involved (for example, a dead family member) for perfectly normal, perfectly ethical and completely legal activities? Since they'd be completely ethical and legal, please explain who and why.

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    https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile...r-jan-6-trial/

    The attorney for the right-wing anti-government Oath Keepers group currently facing conspiracy and obstruction charges in the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol has been deemed mentally incompetent to stand trial.

    Kellye SoRelle was arrested in September 2022 for her alleged role in the Jan. 6 riot, when mobs of Donald Trump supporters overran police and violently breached the Capitol as Congress began to certify Joe Biden’s 2020 electoral win. Lawmakers and staffers were forced to flee or shelter in place for hours until the certification process could be safely resumed.

    SoRelle is alleged to have urged suspected participants in the riot to “withhold records, documents, and other objects” from a grand jury investigation into the Jan. 6 attack, and to “alter, destroy, mutilate, and conceal objects with intent to impair the objects’ integrity and availability for use in such a Grand Jury investigation,” according to prosecutors.

    She’s also accused of illegally entering the Capitol that day and has been charged with conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstructing an official proceeding, entering and remaining in a restricted building or grounds, and obstruction of justice by tampering with documents. The obstruction charge alone carries a potential 20-year prison sentence.

    “[T]he Court finds by a preponderance of the evidence that Defendant is presently suffering from a mental disease or defect rendering her mentally incompetent, to the extent that she is unable to understand the nature and consequences of the proceedings against her or to assist properly in her defense,” U.S. District Judge Amit Mehta wrote in an order issued Monday.

    Mehta based his determination on SoRelle’s “motion for competency restoration” and reports from both the prosecution and defense that had separately concluded that SoRelle was “presently incompetent to stand trial.”

    Those reports also indicated that SoRelle would likely regain competency “in the foreseeable future,” and Mehta found that there is a “substantial probability” that she will “attain the capacity to permit the proceedings to go forward.”

    Mehta, a Barack Obama appointee, ordered SoRelle to be committed to federal authorities for “hospitalization for treatment in a suitable medical facility for the purposes of competency restoration” once space in such a program becomes available. Reports on her condition must be submitted to the judge every 60 days thereafter until she has “recovered to such an extent” that she can proceed with her trial.

    SoRelle, who has been released on her own recognizance, was supposed to face trial before Mehta in July alongside Oath Keepers members Donovan Crowl and James Beeks. It was not immediately clear whether that trial would proceed in light of Mehta’s order.

    Prosecutors and SoRelle’s defense attorney reportedly told Mehta, a Barack Obama appointee, during a June 8 hearing that SoRelle had been deemed incompetent to stand trial. As recently as June 13, SoRelle appears to have been making social media posts about her mental competency status.

    SoRelle took over leadership of the Oath Keepers in January 2022 after Rhodes’ arrest. In January 2021, she was one of the lawyers behind a pro-Trump election fraud lawsuit that memorably drew from “The Lord of the Rings,” comparing Trump to the “true king” of the fictional kingdom of Gondor and Biden, his administration, and lawmakers as “a group of individuals calling themselves the President, Vice President and Congress who have no rightful claim to govern the American People.”

    SoRelle was reportedly romantically involved with Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes, who was convicted in November of seditious conspiracy and other felonies relating to Jan. 6 and sentenced in May to nearly two decades behind bars. Her relationship with Rhodes was revealed in sharp relief during Rhodes’ trial in October 2022 when some of the one-time couple’s explicit text messages that indicated a romantic entanglement between attorney and client were shown to jurors.
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    these people need help

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    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/jus...5-ye-rcna89388

    A Donald Trump supporter who drove a stun gun into the neck of a D.C. police officer who was abducted by the mob during the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was sentenced to 12.5 years in prison on Wednesday.

    Daniel "D.J." Rodriguez, a California man who traveled to D.C. with fellow Trump supporters who belonged to a Telegram group called the "PATRIOTS 45 MAGA Gang," pleaded guilty in February to felony conspiracy, obstruction of an official proceeding, tampering with documents or proceedings, and inflicting bodily injury on officers using a deadly or dangerous weapon.

    "There will be blood," Rodriguez wrote in "MAGA Gang" Telegram chat on the night of Jan. 5, just hours before attending Trump's rally at the White House Ellipse. "Welcome to the revolution.”

    On Jan. 6, after joining the fight in the Capitol's lower west tunnel — where some of the most violent scenes of the day played out — Rodriguez attacked officer Michael Fanone, later bragging about his actions in the Telegram chat.

    “Omg I did so much f---ing s--- [right now] and got away,” Rodriguez wrote to fellow members of the Patriots 45 MAGA Gang. “Tazzed the f--- out of the blue.”
    MAGA insurrectionist who bragged about assaulting law enforcement officers with a tazer and "d[oing] so much fucking shit" has been sentenced to 12.5 years of prison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    "sentenced to 12.5 years in prison"
    Good. I don't care who you are, you attack a cop during a crime you're committing, it should be a life-changing consequence. More so in this case for obvious reasons.

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    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...-jan-rcna91166

    Senate HSC report is very critical of the intelligence agencies.

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    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/jus...esid-rcna91915

    A conspiracy minded Donald Trump supporter who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 was arrested Thursday near the home of former President Barack Obama, a law enforcement official told NBC News.

    Taylor Taranto, who was identified by online sleuths in August 2021 and is facing a lawsuit from the widow of Metropolitan Police Department officer who died by suicide, recently showed up to the sentencing of David Walls-Kaufman, his co-defendant in the civil lawsuit.

    While Walls-Kaufman was arrested last year and has already been sentenced, Taylor had not been charged.

    In recent weeks, Taranto has been living in a van near the D.C. jailhouse, according to his social media, and has repeatedly wondered in online posts why he had not yet been arrested over Jan. 6. Taranto also posted on YouTube a video of himself inside the Capitol during the riot.

    Charging papers in his case were not yet available, and it was not clear when Taranto would make a court appearance.

    NBC News has been reviewing Taranto's Telegram account. His last post was a link to a website touting conspiracy theories about the Obama's home.
    Really, the Republican party and conservative media ecosystem seems to prey on vulnerable people quite a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drutt View Post
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    Senate HSC report is very critical of the intelligence agencies.
    It's the "hiding in plain sight" strategy where it's all done in public so they surely can't be serious about it blah blah blah blah

    shit's been going on forever and law enforcement an intelligence communities still act like it's their first time on the fucking internet

    heads should roll for this, but they won't

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    In recent weeks, Taranto has been living in a van down by the river!
    So let's talk about this violent terrorist.

    One, he was facing four misdemeanors. That's right: not felonies. This was his response. To misdemeanors.

    Two:

    NBC News spotted Taranto at Walls-Kaufman’s sentencing earlier this month, where he confirmed his full name to court security officials who spoke to him after he used his cell phone in the courtroom in violation of court rules.
    From context, I believe he was in the courtroom of his co-conspirator Walls-Kaufman. It's the only thing that makes sense. If you're already in a hole, stop digging down.

    Three:

    Taranto showed up at Obama's residence on Thursday after Trump posted screenshots on his Truth Social platform that featured a purported address for Obama's home in Washington. Taranto's account reposted Trump's post.

    "We got these losers surrounded!" Taranto wrote on Telegram yesterday. "See you in hell, Podesta's and Obama's!"
    He announced in public his plan to murder people. Multiple people.

    And four, he had a machete, two guns, and 400 rounds of ammunition.

    (deep breath)

    Okay. Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that the guns were not "rapid-fire magazine-fed semi-automatic rifles based on the AR-15 originally designed as a weapon of war" or the press would have said so by now. Let's assume they were relatively standard semi-auto handguns, like, say, the Glock 22. Standard magazine size is 15 for that make and model.

    He was ready to reload over two dozen times. This was not "I'll cap him and run". This was "I'm ready for an extended firefight with police and Secret Service".

    And Trump, specifically Trump, told him where to go.

    "Surely Trump didn't single out this person and give him personalized instructions."

    No, nor did he name the thousand-plus people who stormed the election certification. He's still the leader of a group of violent terrorists who are ready to kill on his command.

    "Maybe he's insane and would have followed anyone."

    He followed Trump and was on his way to murder Obama. I don't think "anyone" fits. At best, Trump has placed himself in a situation where crazy people willing to commit a very murder spree just happen to be drawn to his rallies in which he happens to say "they're coming for you" and "every Democrat and some Republicans are destroying America, also I love guns and violence" by coincidence. At worse, he's instigating violence and death on purpose.

    Those 45 extra charges can't come fast enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    So let's talk about this violent terrorist.

    One, he was facing four misdemeanors. That's right: not felonies. This was his response. To misdemeanors.

    Two:



    From context, I believe he was in the courtroom of his co-conspirator Walls-Kaufman. It's the only thing that makes sense. If you're already in a hole, stop digging down.

    Three:



    He announced in public his plan to murder people. Multiple people.

    And four, he had a machete, two guns, and 400 rounds of ammunition.

    (deep breath)

    Okay. Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that the guns were not "rapid-fire magazine-fed semi-automatic rifles based on the AR-15 originally designed as a weapon of war" or the press would have said so by now. Let's assume they were relatively standard semi-auto handguns, like, say, the Glock 22. Standard magazine size is 15 for that make and model.

    He was ready to reload over two dozen times. This was not "I'll cap him and run". This was "I'm ready for an extended firefight with police and Secret Service".

    And Trump, specifically Trump, told him where to go.

    "Surely Trump didn't single out this person and give him personalized instructions."

    No, nor did he name the thousand-plus people who stormed the election certification. He's still the leader of a group of violent terrorists who are ready to kill on his command.

    "Maybe he's insane and would have followed anyone."

    He followed Trump and was on his way to murder Obama. I don't think "anyone" fits. At best, Trump has placed himself in a situation where crazy people willing to commit a very murder spree just happen to be drawn to his rallies in which he happens to say "they're coming for you" and "every Democrat and some Republicans are destroying America, also I love guns and violence" by coincidence. At worse, he's instigating violence and death on purpose.

    Those 45 extra charges can't come fast enough.
    Yeah, I just was scrolling through tiktok, and a "black conservative" was talking about this, claiming that it was 100% a setup, because since this guy was a J6 defendant, that none of them have been released from prison, and that Martha's Vineyard is some sort of locked down town because the president goes there for some relaxation. Not that it wasn't just some town that is a tourist destination.

    Basically he is just another Klandace Owens, doing the black version of Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson mixed together. This same person also claimed that the judge could throw out the ruling against Trump for his sexual assault. Even though they didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    He was ready to reload over two dozen times. This was not "I'll cap him and run". This was "I'm ready for an extended firefight with police and Secret Service".
    To be fair: only if he also had two dozen magazines on him. You don't handload from a box in the middle of a shootout.
    “There you stand, the good man doing nothing. And while evil triumphs, and your rigid pacifism crumbles to blood stained dust, the only victory afforded to you is that you stuck true to your guns.”

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    WARNING: The following post has large amounts of Right Wing Cringe.

    Oath Keepers leader convicted of seditious conspiracy warns Trump: ‘You’re going to be found guilty’

    "Wait, Rhodes is turning on Trump?"

    Probably not, actually. Hence the cringe warning.

    They’re going to do the same thing to Trump that they did to me.

    You’re going to get railroaded. You’re going to be found guilty if you try to go to trial. So everyone’s been demoralized and more likely to take a plea deal and agree to ‘test-a-lie’ against Trump.
    "Test-a-lie?"

    Rhodes seems pretty sure that people are going to commit perjury in one of the largest and most public criminal cases in the USA, when he also knows everyone has everyone's texts and emails. Seems like a strategy that sure exists, no question.

    I didn’t enter the Capitol, but I was still found guilty by a D.C. jury of obstructing an official proceeding even though I didn’t even go inside. And I was found guilty of seditious conspiracy, although they had zero evidence of an actual plan. They just used my speech. It will be the same thing with Trump
    "...wasn't his plan in the speech?"

    Well, also the texts and emails, but, yes.

    "He thinks being outside the building means he's not guilty of a plan in which other people entered the building on his orders?"

    He's trying to use that argument, yes. Considering the Washington Examiner interview was likely with him in prison, either he didn't use it on the stand, or he did and it failed.

    "Is his lawyer appealling the conviction?"

    No, because he doesn't have a lawyer. He's looking for a lawyer willing to appeal.

    Rhodes is siding with Trump in the Deep State thing. Somehow the people suing, prosecutors, judges and juries are all in it to frame innocent people by making them lie to take plea deals. I mean, I'm not saying people never get railroaded, but not in this case. There was plenty of evidence, the world saw it. Yet Rhodes and Trump will continue the "we're the victims here, everyone is out to get us" routine until, depending on how things work out for them, they might literally die in prison.

    I guess the moral of the story is: don't commit a murderous insurrection.

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    Expect more sentencings soon.

    James Beeks and Donovan Crowl waived their right to a trial by jury, instead opting for a stipulated bench trial starting Monday before U.S. District Judge Amit Mehta, according to court filings. A third co-defendant, former Oath Keepers lawyer Kellye SoRelle, was determined to be mentally incompetent to stand trial.

    Carmen Hernandez, Crowl’s attorney, told The Hill that the men will be tried on two felony counts: conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding and civil disorder. Three other felony counts plus a misdemeanor would be dismissed at the end of the proceedings.

    Because Beeks and Crowl declined a jury trial in favor of a stipulated bench trial — which requires agreement between the defendants and the Justice Department on certain facts — they could argue that a sentence reduction is warranted for acceptance of guilt if convicted.

    Prosecutors claim that Crowl and Watkins “equipped themselves for battle” Jan. 6, wearing reinforced vests, camouflage helmets and goggles. Crowl filmed himself inside the Capitol saying, “We took on the Capitol! We overran the Capitol!” according to court filings.

    A former U.S. Marine, Crowl was one of the first rioters identified after giving an interview to The New Yorker days after Jan. 6, where he confirmed he entered the Capitol. He also said he was in Washington to “do security” for unnamed “VIPs,” an argument made by several other Oath Keepers during their trials.
    I was under the impression that the main benefit of a Constitutionally-provided jury of your peers was to sucker one in twelve people to finding you not guilty, on the grounds of emotion and pleading for mercy. A bench trial seems like a really good way to be convicted when you're objectively guilty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Expect more sentencings soon. I was under the impression that the main benefit of a Constitutionally-provided jury of your peers was to sucker one in twelve people to finding you not guilty, on the grounds of emotion and pleading for mercy. A bench trial seems like a really good way to be convicted when you're objectively guilty.
    The here-and-now reveals how smart they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Expect more sentencings soon.



    I was under the impression that the main benefit of a Constitutionally-provided jury of your peers was to sucker one in twelve people to finding you not guilty, on the grounds of emotion and pleading for mercy. A bench trial seems like a really good way to be convicted when you're objectively guilty.
    *Did a thing*
    MAGNUS DID NOTHING WRONG.
    Plea deal REJECTED!
    Narrator: He did. They did.
    Wait...you're talking about....we're...what? Um, er, can I take that plea...what do you mean "it's off the table"?
    12 people will be chosen, who will be shown you did the thing, have seen how brash and brazen you are about the thing, will have heard you say under oath you did the thing, and you could end up dead.
    Um, Your Honor, why bother 12 people, I mean, it's a hassle for you, time wasted that you could be doing other stuff, youknowwhatImean? Can we save you all that wasted time and just grovel at your feet instead 12 sets of feet?
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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