Capitol Insurrection / rebellion thread

[Edge-]

With the Capitol getting stormed at this rate, maybe people should come to terms at how fragile and weak our country has gotten these last years with Trump and Biden at the helm. Never happened under Obama.

The last time the Capitol was stormed was while Donald was president in 2021, what are you talking about?

[postman1782]

Hey, here's a fun one: Social Media Influencer Douglass Mackey Sentenced after Conviction for Election Interference in 2016 Presidential Race.

"Wait, 2016?"

Yeah, he told people they could vote by text. In what I'm sure was a coincidence, he only told Clinton supporters to do that.

I saw someone on Tiktok, posted through Gateway Pundit, that this was "just a joke" or "just a meme" that violates his first amendment rights. Not know, that the 1st amendment doesn't cover crimes.

[Edge-]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservativ...911_and_pearl/

And today on "Conservatives are totally reasonable and exist in the same shared reality", they're still comparing the recent non-violent protests to the assault on the capitol that left multiple people dead and resulted in millions upon millions in damage.

I mean, none of these pro-peace protesters even brought and erected a fucking gallows. Are they even serious insurrectionists!?

[Chonogo]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservativ...911_and_pearl/

And today on "Conservatives are totally reasonable and exist in the same shared reality", they're still comparing the recent non-violent protests to the assault on the capitol that left multiple people dead and resulted in millions upon millions in damage.

I mean, none of these pro-peace protesters even brought and erected a fucking gallows. Are they even serious insurrectionists!?

Holy shit the comments. They're serious?? Please tell me they aren't serious, Edge.

I mean holy fuck.

The O18 insurrection is worse than 9/11 and Pearl Harbour combined! I’m literally shaking and crying right now. Never forget!

[Edge-]

Holy shit the comments. They're serious?? Please tell me they aren't serious, Edge.

Some don't appear to be serious. But some very much are, and the twitter account in the screencap is not satire. That thread popped up on my reddit browsing so I decided to take a gander at what /r/conservative was up to and...yeah, it's about what you think. Lamenting the dysfunction of their party and a bunch of really petty and irrelevant shit like "victoria's secret ditches woke and goes back to sexy!" which is I guess now a political issue or something I'm so horribly confused. Reactionaries are difficult to understand.

[Edge-]

https://www.woodtv.com/news/allegan-...r-kidnap-plot/

A West Michigan state legislator paid tribute Friday to two men acquitted in the failed plot to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, with Rep. Rachelle Smit saying she was doing so on behalf of the state.

Not so fast, the governor’s office responded.

“We’re here to recognize Bill and Mike Null for their unfortunate involvement in this scandal, if you will, and that’s what I’m going to call it,” Smit, R-Shelbyville, said at an event in Allegan. “If you would just accept these tributes on behalf of the state of Michigan and our office as your representative in the 43rd District,” Smit said.

The governor’s press secretary called the tribute “disturbing.”

“This goes beyond the pale,” press secretary Stacey LaRouche wrote in an email to News 8. “These types of actions normalize and incite violence against our political figures, and only serve to shake our faith in our values and our institutions. This tribute will further encourage and embolden radical extremists trying to sow discord and harm public officials or law enforcement.”

Smit gave William and Michael Null, of Allegan County, the hometown hero treatment on the steps of the Allegan County courthouse, along with their defense attorneys.

The Null brothers were among 14 men charged in state and federal courts in a plot to kidnap Whitmer in 2020. Nine were convicted and sent to prison, including the ringleaders, Adam Fox and Barry Croft Jr., despite arguments they were entrapped by the FBI.

Five were acquitted, including the Null brothers and Eric Molitor, who were accused of supporting leaders by participating in military-style drills and traveling to see Whitmer’s second home in northern Michigan.

The tribute honored the Nulls for their “courage, unflagging spirt and dedication to our state and the founding principles of our beloved nation.” It thanked them for “keeping alive our cherished liberties.”

The men could have “given up” in the face of a government that betrayed them and “secret police forces” that concocted the kidnapping plot for political gain, the tribute states. But, at great personal risk, each of the brothers “stood his ground, met his government inquisitors in court, and soundly defeated them,” the tribute continues.

Each of the brothers, the tribute says, “is an outstanding example of the kind of person who is not content to sit idly while the forces of tyranny attack our Republic.”

“The people of the state of Michigan owe a debt of gratitude to Mr. Null,” the tribute states.

“I’m glad there still is justice in America,” said William Null, who said he and his brother spent two months in jail. “I spent 30 days in solitary confinement and then another week or two in max security,” he said.

He said they did nothing illegal and that it was his “smiling face” that led to his arrest.

“I just want to thank everybody for their support, the defense team, all of the friends and family that went to bat for us,” Michael Null said. “A lot of people we don’t know stood up for us. They know us and they know we would never be a part of anything like this.”

Smit was reluctant to answer questions about the tribute and whether it was on behalf of state government.

“Well, I am a representative of the state,” she said. “This is from my office, the 43rd District state Representative Rachelle Smit. They are my constituents and I am here to come out on behalf of them and support them in their efforts and grateful that … the charges are dismissed and they are found innocent.”

So in addition to the Michigan GOP being run by a conspiracy theorist, in addition to the Michigan GOP being broke because donors don't trust them, in addition to the Michigan GOP leadership assaulting each other at meetings.

Michigan GOP Rep., Rachelle Smit, took to creating a complete fiction about the state government honoring two man who plotted to kidnap, and potentially kill, the governo of Michigan and others.

The explicit endorsements of extremism from Republican officials continues.

[Edge-]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/jus...-ye-rcna123188

A former Donald Trump political appointee at the State Department who tried to storm the Capitol and assaulted law enforcement officers on Jan. 6 was sentenced to 70 months in prison on Friday.

Federico Klein was arrested in March 2021 and convicted of eight felonies as well as misdemeanor offenses by U.S. District Court Judge Trevor McFadden, also a Trump appointee, in July 2023 following a bench trial.

Klein did not speak during his sentencing hearing and declined to comment after the hearing when NBC News asked him if he continued to believe that the election was stolen and if he had any regrets about his actions that day.

McFadden said that Klein's conduct was "shocking and egregious," and suggested his sentence would have been higher had Klein not already been on home detention for two years. Klein, McFadden said, was "intent on breaking into the building," and said he was "astonished" by Klein's behavior on Jan. 6.

"This is a government of laws, not of men," McFadden said, adding that Klein seemed determined to reverse that maxim. McFadden said he'd seen no evidence that Klein felt remorse.

The government had sought 10 years in federal prison for Klein, saying he "was likely motivated by a personal benefit — namely, continued employment as a political appointee — when he attacked the U.S. Capitol." They pointed to messages he sent ahead of Jan. 6 — “Hell yea I’m going. I’m a Trump appointee" — as well as the fact that he "took time off from work at the State Department to volunteer to travel to Las Vegas" to investigate the false claims that the Trump campaign was making about mass voter fraud.

“You can’t stop this!” Klein yelled during one of the assaults in the lower west tunnel at the U.S. Capitol, which was the site of some of the worst violence of the attack. At one point, prosecutors said, Klein "wedged a police riot shield in between the doors, helping to force the doors back open and allowing rioters to continue their assaults on police."

They did, in fact, stop that. And he is going to jail for over 6 years, maybe less if he behaves himself.

[Breccia]

If you have anything to say to Edward Rodriguez, you might want to hurry. You could lose your chance for another three years.

Video from the Jan. 6 riots showed Rodriguez spraying multiple police officer with the bear mace, prosecutors said. He later spoke to an independent reporter at the Capitol.

“Here in America, we fight back,” he said, according to prosecutors. “We will never surrender to dictatorship, corruption, communism, or socialism. We the people will never put up with their bullshit.”

Court documents claim that the FBI was made aware of the video through a group of Reddit users that aggregated video from the insurrection and identified violent rioters.

He was then caught, plead guilty within seconds, and got three years in prison plus three years probation. Basically, like many others, he claimed he became "disconnected from reality" by reading "crazy stuff online" those are exact quotes of his.



He also then tried to apologize to one of the cops he violently assaulted during his terrorist act. In a nearly empty courtroom. With no cameras. If I sound cynical, it's because I have a thousand cases to pull from. E-Rod could just as easily say "Trump won, Biden cheated" now that the sentence is passed as anything else.

Funny story: he's a NYC real-estate agent.

[Drutt]

He also then tried to apologize to one of the cops he violently assaulted during his terrorist act. In a nearly empty courtroom. With no cameras. If I sound cynical, it's because I have a thousand cases to pull from. E-Rod could just as easily say "Trump won, Biden cheated" now that the sentence is passed as anything else.

Funny story: he's a NYC real-estate agent.

As soon as he's out, he'll be recanting his remorse at lightspeed, QAnon Shaman style (plus a bunch of others).

These people don't regret their actions, they regret being caught.

[Odinfrost]

As soon as he's out, he'll be recanting his remorse at lightspeed, QAnon Shaman style (plus a bunch of others).

These people don't regret their actions, they regret being caught.

A Republican mantra at this point, I feel

[Edge-]

https://www.denverpost.com/2023/11/1...rrick-garland/

Former Mesa County Clerk and Recorder Tina Peters this week sued state and federal officials — including U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland — seeking to stop any criminal investigation and prosecution of her related to her conduct in the aftermath of the 2020 election.

The lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court in Denver on Monday, alleges government officials violated her constitutional rights through their investigations into her alleged misconduct as an election official.

The lawsuit comes months before Peters is scheduled to stand trial in Mesa County. She faces seven felony charges for allegedly allowing a copy of a hard drive to be made during an update of election equipment in 2021 in search of proof of the false conspiracy theories promoted by former President Donald Trump.

The charges against her include multiple counts of attempting to influence a public servant and one count of criminal impersonation, among others.

Tina Peters sues to have the investigations into her stopped on the grounds that it's all going incredibly poorly for her and she doesn't want to have to deal with the consequences of her criminal behavior.

[Breccia]

Tina Peters sues to have the investigations into her stopped on the grounds that it's all going incredibly poorly for her and she doesn't want to have to deal with the consequences of her criminal behavior.

I promise I haven't clicked the link or Googled her name, but I'm going to guess "First Amendment".

(clicks link)

All activities Peters undertook were constitutional, the lawsuit says, and are protected by the First and 14th amendments, in addition to federal and local laws.

Just remember, if you take part in a murderous insurrection, all you have to do is say you were using your First Amendment right to protest peacefully until people die from it. It won't work, but that's all you have to do. You're fucked either way, you committed terrorism, your ass goes to jail.

[Edge-]

https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...-january-6-mtg

January 6 is back to being a riot. Again.