Capitol Insurrection / rebellion thread

[Mihalik]

I am able to compartmentalize ideas and posts. Theo might have a history of conspiracies against the Democrats that just seem eye-rollingly unbelievable.

The ability to identify a problem is not synonymous with being able to offer a solution.

While technically Theo might be right on something whatever idea she's selling must be analyzed in her ideological context.

Theo is an ethno nationalist. Racist to boot, and is mostly okay with authoritarianism as long as it is being done by people of the right skin color.

It's like Hitler saying the Soviet Union is bad. Yeah, it is bad, but the alternative you're offering is literally worse.

[postman1782]

I admit watching the video of the shooting it looks pretty bad.. shooting that girl in the neck when she was unarmed seemed excessive. Sure she was trying enter but it seems an excessive amount of force.

Haven't you LITERALLY been defending Kyle Rittenhouse, who LITERALLY did the same fucking thing to Rosenbaum? Sit down.

[Krakan]

It is.

If only there were some kind of movement to stop the use of excessive force by the police in the US.

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Did he whisper "hail Hydra" and then take a briefcase from them?

I mean... christ were to start... one I don't think its confirmed it was a police officer. Two one isn't a self defense case. Do you really align your morality to a political position?

[postman1782]

I don't see how the two are related... kyle was attacked the woman was arguably trespassing. I understand you want a simple comparison but somethings are apples and oranges.

Kyle wasn't even fucking touched. By literally ANYONE. And the woman was breaking the window of the door onto the house floor, with armed terrorists behind her.

[Krakan]

Kyle wasn't even fucking touched. By literally ANYONE. And the woman was breaking the window of the door onto the house floor, with armed terrorists behind her.

There not armed and the door was barricaded. The entire thing was filmed just like with kyle she wasn't a sith...

That said she was breaking and entering but just point blank reaching over and shooting her in the neck seems a bit excessive.

[Elegiac]

That said she was breaking and entering but just point blank reaching over and shooting her in the neck seems a bit excessive.

They had no way of knowing these terrorists were unarmed considering the last group of right wing goons that stormed a capitol were actively brandishing weapons at law enforcement.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[Mormolyce]

I mean... christ were to start... one I don't think its confirmed it was a police officer. Two one isn't a self defense case. Do you really align your morality to a political position?

I don't know what you're asking, I'm agreeing with you that it's excessive force.

And if it's not a police officer then it's straight up murder. Arguably even if it is...

[Krakan]

They had no way of knowing these terrorists were unarmed considering the last group of right wing goons that stormed a capitol were actively brandishing weapons at law enforcement.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Fair enough. It seems excessive but I can understand it. I just find it weird how it played out. No warning, no hesitation just lifting up a drawn weapon stepping into it shooting her in the neck then waiting.

Still I don't think it was a cop but rather part of the security forces I doubt they have much training for apprehending people.

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I don't know what you're asking, I'm agreeing with you that it's excessive force.

And if it's not a police officer then it's straight up murder. Arguably even if it is...

Might of just read into the second quote.

[Mormolyce]

-Kyle Rittenhouse is a murderer. I imagine he argues that there are extenuating circumstances, ie he felt threatened, I don't agree with that and think he should be convicted.

-Shooting that woman is excessive force. Similarly the police (assuming that's who shot her) would probably argue that they believed she or someone in the crowd invading the building was armed or otherwise a threat to their lives. Given this was a mass armed assault on a government building they have a much stronger argument than Rittenhouse, but I still don't believe there was no non-lethal option here (at least based on what I've seen, I guess more information could come to light).

This woman might be an idiot and a loon and part of a mob attacking a building, but I don't think she should've been shot dead. Obviously none of this should've happened in the first place of course.

[eschatological]

How do you live with such staggering levels of cognitive dissonance?

A) She was warned.

B) It was Capitol Police.

C) She was DEFINITELY trespassing (unlike Rosenbaum), and not only that, trespassing on federal property with ill intent towards duly elected government officials. There were literally SECRET SERVICE there because the VP was in the building.

D) They broke a window into the chamber, and then she started climbing in.

E) Several of her co-conspirators were armed.

F) Three pipe bombs were found today, planted by these same innocent protesters.


She's a domestic terrorist. Plain and simple. She tried to foment a coup against the duly elected Joe Biden.

[beanman12345]

gaslighting or guy has an IQ in the 60's.

[jonnysensible]

How do you live with such staggering levels of cognitive dissonance?

A) She was warned.

B) It was Capitol Police.

C) She was DEFINITELY trespassing (unlike Rosenbaum), and not only that, trespassing on federal property with ill intent towards duly elected government officials. There were literally SECRET SERVICE there because the VP was in the building.

D) They broke a window into the chamber, and then she started climbing in.

E) Several of her co-conspirators were armed.

F) Three pipe bombs were found today, planted by these same innocent protesters.


She's a domestic terrorist. Plain and simple. She tried to foment a coup against the duly elected Joe Biden.

a quick glance at her social media she was completely QANON brain melted as well. When will these 8chan cunts get smashed like the Watkins get smashed

[draynay]

Do you really align your morality to a political position?

That is some comedy gold.

[nonameelf]

A lot of those capitol police need to be fired and charged with aiding and abetting.

[Draco-Onis]

A lot of those capitol police need to be fired and charged with aiding and abetting.

These images show this rather clearly


Reaction and preparation to BLM protest in Washington.




Police taking selfie with Trump terrorists

[CostinR]

Regarding the events that took place in D.C. it's crossing a major political line and stepping over a fairly substantial threshold. Violent riots aren't too uncommon even in democracies ( football ultras in Europe would make the violence that was on display feel tame in comparison ) but what is quite unprecedented is for the legislative body of a western democracy to be stormed.

Going even further. The US Congress is the most consequential legislative body of the western world. It being stormed crosses a major threshold in American politics. I believe the last time I saw something remotely similar is when violent protesters in Ukraine threatened to storm the Rada ( parliament ), and they didn't after politicians on their side pleaded with them not to.

Why? Because the legitimacy of a legislative body is severely undermined by such actions. Make no mistake, regardless of what happens over the next few days or whatever happens to Trump a line was crossed that will have enormous consequences for the future.

[Toppy]

Regarding the events that took place in D.C. it's crossing a major political line and stepping over a fairly substantial threshold. Violent riots aren't too uncommon even in democracies ( football ultras in Europe would make the violence that was on display feel tame in comparison ) but what is quite unprecedented is for the legislative body of a western democracy to be stormed.

Going even further. The US Congress is the most consequential legislative body of the western world. It being stormed crosses a major threshold in American politics. I believe the last time I saw something remotely similar is when violent protesters in Ukraine threatened to storm the Rada ( parliament ), and they didn't after politicians on their side pleaded with them not to.

Why? Because the legitimacy of a legislative body is severely undermined by such actions. Make no mistake, regardless of what happens over the next few days or whatever happens to Trump a line was crossed that will have enormous consequences for the future.

I want to believe but the vote tells me that we'll rapidly go back to Trump era business as usual. Likely within a few hours rather than days.

[Felya]

I don't see how the two are related... kyle was attacked the woman was arguably trespassing. I understand you want a simple comparison but somethings are apples and oranges.

They were storming congress and she got shot by secret service protecting congress, as they were evacuated. WTF?

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Still I don't think it was a cop but rather part of the security forces I doubt they have much training for apprehending people.

It was secret service, protecting congress from an attempted coup. You don’t evacuate the capital hill over trespassing... You just questioned the training of secret service, during evacuation of congress.

FYI... Interrupting congress with force is in the jurisdiction of the sedation act... you don’t just trespass on the floor of congress, as congress is in session... that’s not what it’s called...

[Machismo]

Theo's always been on the farther left end of the spectrum, but during the years that the orange turd was in power, along with McTurtle, I think she was far too hard on Democrats who more or less had their hands tied and very little power. It was entirely unfair, most of what she said.

With Democrats having majorities, I too expect to hold Democrat's feet to the fire. If they fail to get anything significant done in these first two years, I'm going to be severely disappointed in them. This needs to be two years of improving the lives of Americans, not two years of making token fights against the Republicans. They have the people to get what they want done, so get 'er done. Though I am worried about some of the "blue dog" democrats, which tend towards Republican a lot of the time and are an inch away from basically being Republicans.

Except when she's being an alt-right national socialist who supports ethnic cleansing and apartheid... which is always.

She's. Fucking. Lying.

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Regarding the events that took place in D.C. it's crossing a major political line and stepping over a fairly substantial threshold. Violent riots aren't too uncommon even in democracies ( football ultras in Europe would make the violence that was on display feel tame in comparison ) but what is quite unprecedented is for the legislative body of a western democracy to be stormed.

Going even further. The US Congress is the most consequential legislative body of the western world. It being stormed crosses a major threshold in American politics. I believe the last time I saw something remotely similar is when violent protesters in Ukraine threatened to storm the Rada ( parliament ), and they didn't after politicians on their side pleaded with them not to.

Why? Because the legitimacy of a legislative body is severely undermined by such actions. Make no mistake, regardless of what happens over the next few days or whatever happens to Trump a line was crossed that will have enormous consequences for the future.

That's because Trump is a fucking Nazi.

We've been telling you that the entire time. Welcome to the conversation.

[Wilfire]

They lured patriots into DC and whipped them up into a rally, resulting in one patriot being shot dead by bastards cops. They knew this would happen. They are all traitors. They are all part of the same establishment and never intended to go through with their challenge to Biden's victory.
[Infraction]