Capitol Insurrection / rebellion thread

[Magical Mudcrab]

It's mostly drama and hyperbole though.

> 4 people dead.
> Upwards of 50 police injured.
> Bombs found on premises and exploded off-site.
> Historic landmark damaged.
> Confidential documents stolen as offices are raided.

I wouldn't call that mostly drama.

[Kathranis]

So how likely was it that the police were given instructions not to be aggressive and allow the protestors into the capitol? Most of the videos seem like the police barely resisted. Why were there so few guards stationed when it was something that was known to be protested?

It looks like a few of them might have been complicit, others I think were just overwhelmed and felt threatened. I saw one video where three or four cops inside the building nearly got trampled by a crowd of maybe 50+ people shoving them backwards. Saw another where a single cop was retreating from a crowd coming up a flight of stairs.

They clearly didn't have enough cops to hold the line, they were barely standing two deep against crowds of hundreds in their LARPer tactical gear, some armed, and others using chemical weapons like mace and bear spray.

By far the most obvious issue is that they were undermanned and undergeared to handle the crowds. Especially when you consider how kitted out they usually are for BLM protests.

[Magical Mudcrab]

Are they sure it was Capitol Police who did the shooting? Because the shooter was definitely wearing a suit like Secret Service would be. Capitol Police were behind the traitors doing nothing to stop them.

Reporting suggests it was Capitol Police.

[shimerra]

That's about a person and not a specific policy.


It's mostly drama and hyperbole though.

You're trying to play semantics. And failing. The policy they wanted enacted was for congress to refuse to certify the votes of multiple states because they feel their guy won. The fact that they did so because of their cultish obsession with a particular person is besides the bullshit, lame, deflection you are putting out.

[Edge-]

https://lawandcrime.com/crazy/gop-la...apitol-attack/

Mo Brooks still pushing the "secret antifa" conspiracy theories.

He can be strung up with the rest of the traitors.

[wunksta]

By far the most obvious issue is that they were undermanned and undergeared to handle the crowds. Especially when you consider how kitted out they usually are for BLM protests.

Yeah that alone seems suspicious because they must have known that there would be protests. There would likely be a lot of intel and reports gathered to inform them about the situation. It must have been ignored by someone.

[Orange Joe]

That's about a person and not a specific policy.


It's mostly drama and hyperbole though.

Storming the capital building is hyperbole? How often does something like this happen again?

[Xeones]

The only confirmed murder was by a cop and we know how that works out in America.

Felony murder is a charge that applies to all individuals engaged in committing a felony when someone dies during the commission of their crime. Federal law allows the felony murder charge which would apply to all the terrorists since that woman was killed during the commission of their crime.

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Looks like some of these guys had plans on taking hostages. Peaceful protest by people who didn't know they couldn't be there, riiiiiiiiiiiight. We better see arrests and federal charges against some of these goons.

https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status...11413101998080

I think people are forgetting they had set up a gallows outside the building before charging in.

[Magical Mudcrab]

Yeah that alone seems suspicious because they must have known that there would be protests. There would likely be a lot of intel and reports gathered to inform them about the situation. It must have been ignored by someone.

It's not great. Pelosi has even called for the resignation of the US Capitol Police chief, citing lack of preparedness. As would be expected, lawmakers are also looking to investigate exactly why this occurred.

[Zan15]

> 4 people dead.
> Upwards of 50 police injured.
> Bombs found on premises and exploded off-site.
> Historic landmark damaged.
> Confidential documents stolen as offices are raided.

I wouldn't call that mostly drama.

its also now a federal crime punishable with a 10 year mandatory sentence thanks to Trumps EO

[Very Tired]

Honestly surprised more guns weren't fired. These people are supposed to be 2nd Amendment lovers stocking up on guns and ammo like it's the zombie apocalypse to defend Merica against the socialist communists. When do they expect to get a better opportunity to use them?

[Draco-Onis]

Honestly surprised more guns weren't fired. These people are supposed to be 2nd Amendment lovers stocking up on guns and ammo like it's the zombie apocalypse to defend Merica against the socialist communists. When do they expect to get a better opportunity to use them?

They didn't need to use them the police rolled up the red carpet, took selfies with them wouldn't be shocked if high fives were thrown.

[Kathranis]

https://lawandcrime.com/crazy/gop-la...apitol-attack/

Mo Brooks still pushing the "secret antifa" conspiracy theories.

He can be strung up with the rest of the traitors.

It's always just a little bit disturbing when you stop and realize how many of our representatives and lawmakers grew up in the 50s and 60s in the Deep South.

[Edge-]

https://www.c-span.org/video/?507821...-capitol&live=

The violence the administration called for is unacceptable according to the administration called for violence.

[For_The_Horde]

Reporting suggests it was Capitol Police.

The suit capitol police are more often seen guarding the actual representatives. They're especially protective of congressional leaders, and the VP. For all we know one of them could have been holed up in those offices, so at this barricade "no" and "stop" actually meant "if you break in here you will die".

[Zan15]

Honestly surprised more guns weren't fired. These people are supposed to be 2nd Amendment lovers stocking up on guns and ammo like it's the zombie apocalypse to defend Merica against the socialist communists. When do they expect to get a better opportunity to use them?

Come on over to our local 2A thread where you can read all about people being shot trying to enter where they should not have......and the 2A people cheering the people who did the shooting and killing of those trying to enter.
@Ghostpanther is our resident 2A nut who loves to post how great it is when people die.

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...Control-Thread

odd part is the very people who support owning guns to rise up against the tyrannical govt, are the ones actually supporting them instead.

the rest of them over in that post have been oddly quiet since the election and refuse to even denounce any of Trump's actions after being so vocal before the election in support.



Like this post

"This is good news....

Today, the Ohio Legislature passed legislation that was amended to include No Duty to Retreat, Senate Bill 175. This important self-defense measure now heads to the desk of Governor Mike DeWine for his signature."


Guess republican right wing 2A nuts should be supporting the killing of this women as their 2A right!! you know, your right to stand your ground....
Nah, they are oddly quiet

[Egomaniac]

Still the timing and the fact this thread wasn't locked immediately to allow it to still be open is a funny coincident.

Timing isnt a big deal. Every time Koko gets off his more recent ban he makes another thread like this. This one just happened to be the most recent one he had going.

[Monster Hunter]

Yeah that’s nice.

My point still stands; certainly for the United States.

The United States isn't in Europe

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If you're going to start off with something that is not a civil war, you might as well not bother at all. I can also name an even bigger lists of all the countries that have killed its own citizens, but that, again, is pretty much all of them. meanwhile you could have listed so many more countries that actually have ongoing civil wars, like Yemen or Syria.


Also, why can't you name the countries for the African civil wars, I though you where supposed to know all about world affairs? You don't even knnow whats going on in your country, this is just 1 big joke.

You litteraly cropped the whole list of current ongoing civil wars from my reply just so you look right.

.....yea I can tell you're a labour voter.

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(1) I'm not American.
(2) That you consider American culture to be more similar to colonial India than other developed nations means you're either being intentionally non-constructive or you're so detached from reality that you should not be taken seriously.

Stating that there is racism in the US and making some silly statement that America has a caste system are not good examples in trying to show that America is like colonial India.

America has a cast system, a skin cast system thats obvious, america also has a weapons problem, it also has a massive poverty problem, it also has a religious tension problem.

America has more incommon with colonial India than any modern Western state, if america was its self a wealthy nation it would be considered a backwards nation like it was befor it got wealthy.

[Shadowferal]

It's not great. Pelosi has even called for the resignation of the US Capitol Police chief, citing lack of preparedness. As would be expected, lawmakers are also looking to investigate exactly why this occurred.

Police chief should resign. His actions show a degree of territorialism as if he didn't want the any other agencies involved.

[Monster Hunter]

Somehow missed this, but lol that you somehow missed how racist Canada can be against its own natives.

Haven't missed that. But its America is still closer to colonial India than Canada.