Capitol Insurrection / rebellion thread

[Felya]

A little comparison, USA & Ukraine riots, how some democrats react to riots..it's not about Ukraine, it could be any other country usa derailed the elected in...

The fucker was funneling money to Russia and was resumed by Putin to not serve trial... currently in Russia... in hiding, to avoid charges of treason in Ukraine... this is fucked up...

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Ofc, most will not openly state "well, i like blm n antifa, any violence they do they should be allowed to get away with" but you see with how people structure their bias n deliberately avoid looking into the mirror.

Stoping an active congressional session with force is insurrection. WTF?

[Xeones]

When somebody says only "protesters" refusing to admit there were rioters also at any event that has both.

This selective seeing rioters in the opposing side and only protesters in ur own camp is a bias.

Ofc, most will not openly state "well, i like blm n antifa, any violence they do they should be allowed to get away with" but you see with how people structure their bias n deliberately avoid looking into the mirror.

You're lying.

One side says protestors because they care about the message and expect the rioters to be dealt with. The other side says rioters because they don't want to hear what the other side has to say.

And fuck off with that last line. No one says that liar.

[Ihavewaffles]

I 100% answered your question but it's clear now you didn't want an answer, you're just doing a gotcha question.

My post was about the treatment of the people engaged in the most unbelievable thing I've seen in my life yesterday and the treatment of peaceful protestors.

I'm not discussing the people who didn't enter the capital building.

You are also not discussing, mentioning rioting looting burning violence during blm & antifa riots.

Will you for once stop hiding and answer a simple question?

Should the laws on rioters apply to everybody equally, or not? A simple yes or no.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Ofc, most will not openly state "well, i like blm n antifa, any violence they do they should be allowed to get away with" but you see with how people structure their bias n deliberately avoid looking into the mirror.

Every single thing I've seen about this issue is "I don't support looting and vandalism, but it's also very obvious that the right wing violence which also has a body count is far worse".

Do you disagree that this right wing violence, with dead bodies, zip tie handcuffs, nooses, and guns, is far worse than a few people throwing trash cans through business windows?

[Felya]

@Ihavewaffles where should the fines for Antifa damage go? Where are their headquarters? Before you ask, the proud boys leader is already arrested and their former leader, Gavin McInnes, was at the coup yesterday. Members of the Aryan Brotherhood of Maryland, are also known, just like their leadership. Q Shaman is widely known and so is Joseph Watkins, who is Q him self... so... who should be billed for Antifa?

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Should the laws on rioters apply to everybody equally, or not? A simple yes or no.

Yes, should those breaking sedation laws, be treated like rioters? Should people over throwing a corrupt president, be treated the same as rioters?

Edit: Nigel McGuiness is a pro wrestler... wires crossed... lol

[shimerra]

Torching businesses and looting stores isn't protesting. There's peaceful protesters n rioters on both sides, clearly you refuse to acknowledge that. I asked if you want the laws to apply to all equally, seems you couldn't answer with a simple yes or no.

You don't get to be butthurt about others when you're clearing not trying to argue in faith. Only the type of gotcha an idiot would think got anyone.

Have fun jerking off to the strawman you've made. I'm sure you'll toast your victory later tonight.

[beanman12345]

Should the laws on rioters apply to everybody equally, or not? A simple yes or no.

Again, the rioters yesterday were terrorists. use some critical thought.

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I'm dying, Karen can't handle her mace.

[Orange Joe]

When somebody says only "protesters" refusing to admit there were rioters also at any event that has both.

This selective seeing rioters in the opposing side and only protesters in ur own camp is a bias.

Ofc, most will not openly state "well, i like blm n antifa, any violence they do they should be allowed to get away with" but you see with how people structure their bias n deliberately avoid looking into the mirror.

Can you show me where some has even done this? Just curious as I think you are full of shit. Most people I've seen post here say people that destroy shit should be charged.

[beanman12345]

I'm dying, Karen can't handle her mace.

omg thank you my sides.

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https://twitter.com/NoahGrayCNN/stat...28675776225280

GOOD JOB, PATRIOTS! YOU KILLED A CAPITOL POLICE OFFICER!

Guess blue lives don't matter to them as much as they've been saying.

[Xeones]

You are also not discussing, mentioning rioting looting burning violence during blm & antifa riots.

Will you for once stop hiding and answer a simple question?

Should the laws on rioters apply to everybody equally, or not? A simple yes or no.

Riot laws apply to rioters and the question has been answered. No one approves riots, it just silences legitimate voices and allows people like you to do nonsense like this. We got our selves sedition here.

[Felya]

Again, the rioters yesterday were terrorists. use some critical thought.

That’s the point of what he is doing... he is trying to make terrorists in to rioters... because to you and every normal person, calling BLM rioters, is an affront... but, calling a terrorist, a rioter... is defending the terrorist...

[beanman12345]

That’s the point of what he is doing... he is trying to make terrorists in to rioters... because to you and every normal person, calling BLM rioters, is an affront... but, calling a terrorist, a rioter... is defending the terrorist...

It's why I called him out for it. This is RT talking point tactics, and he's parroting it as he always does.

[Felya]

You are also not discussing, mentioning rioting looting burning violence during blm & antifa riots.

Add cop killers to yesterday’s terrorists...

[Ihavewaffles]

The fucker was funneling money to Russia and was resumed by Putin to not serve trial... currently in Russia... in hiding, to avoid charges of treason in Ukraine... this is fucked up...

I didn't want to start a discussion on Ukraine, lets agree the country is corrupt af n us involvement made things worse.

Charges from people that torpedoed democracy, made a coup against the country's elected officials? Are you referring to the Ukr congressional court?

This court?

https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-pol...hment-law.html
https://www.rt.com/russia/505257-zel...-untouchables/

'Conspiracy of old elites and oligarchs': Ukraine's Zelensky accuses Constitutional Court of protecting country's 'untouchables'

2 Nov, 2020 18:17

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has taken aim at the country's establishment, calling Constitutional Court decisions against anti-corruption legislation a "conspiracy of old elites" to help the nation's "untouchable caste."

On October 27, Ukraine's Constitutional Court struck down a law that would punish government officials for inaccurately declaring personal assets, meaning that civil servants can no longer be criminally prosecuted for lying about their income. Zelensky believes that the judges were acting in their own private interests.

"I know for sure that the demarche of the Constitutional Court is a public manifestation of a conspiracy of some of the old elites and oligarchs, against the president and the country," Zelensky wrote on his Facebook page. "Because a weak president and a weak state are the keys to preserving their corrupt lifestyle."

According to Zelensky, the court's judges, who were appointed "by the old system," are seeking to preserve the elites who "don't want to pay any bills" and "don't want to be responsible for their years of uncontrolled lifestyles."

Late last Thursday, Zelensky submitted a bill to the country's parliament, the Verkhovna Rada, to break up the Constitutional Court and remove all its judges for acting "in its private interests." If passed, the bill would also declare the court's rulings "null and void." In response, the court's chairman, Alexander Tupitsky, accused the president of a "constitutional coup."

Aside from threatening the president's bid to open up financial transparency within the government, the court's decision also puts at risk billions of dollars in financial aid due to be received from the IMF, and could lead to cuts to aid from the European Union.

Elected in 2019, former comedian Zelensky ran on a platform of fighting corruption and ending the war in Donbass, which helped him defeat ex-president Petro Poroshenko.

[thilicen]

https://twitter.com/NoahGrayCNN/stat...28675776225280

GOOD JOB, PATRIOTS! YOU KILLED A CAPITOL POLICE OFFICER!

Guess blue lives don't matter to them as much as they've been saying.

So that's why McEnemy seemed so stressed earlier.

[Edge-]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/group-...a-lie?ref=home

Huh...so the company Matt Gaetz and Mo Brooks says has proof of secret antifa at the Capitol, XRVision? The one promoted by the bullshit Washington Times? Yeah...nah.

But XRVision, the company at the center of the story, says the Times story is totally made up. In a statement provided by the company’s attorney, XRVision said its facial recognition software had in fact identified two neo-Nazis and a QAnon supporter.

“We concluded that two of [the] individuals (Jason Tankersley and Matthew Heimbach), were affiliated with the Maryland Skinheads and the National Socialist Movements,” the statement reads. “These two are known Nazi organizations, they are not Antifa. The third individual identified (Jake Angeli) was an actor with some QAnon promotion history. Again, no Antifa identification was made for him either.”

XRVision has demanded a retraction and apology from the paper, according to the statement.

“XRVision takes pride in its technology's precision and deems the Washington Times publication as outright false, misleading, and defamatory,” the statement read. “Our attorney is in contact with the Washington Times and has instructed them to ‘Cease and Desist’ from any claims regarding sourcing of XRVision analytics, to retract the current claims, and publish and (sic) apology.”

The Washington Times didn’t respond to a request for comment.

Man, lying liars sure do lie a lot. Weird.

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So that's why McEnemy seemed so stressed earlier.

Happened after her briefing, so this wasn't a factor.

But Trump now owns that cops death.

[Felya]

It's why I called him out for it. This is RT talking point tactics, and he's parroting it as he always does.

It’s like demanding that you agree that everyone drinks piss, while they have an IV of piss injected into their veins.

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I didn't want to start a discussion on Ukraine, lets agree the country is corrupt af n us involvement made things worse.

You didn’t want? Who forced you? Since you don’t want to, let me grant you the power of stopping this horse shit now... let’s move on to... who forced you to do this? Blink twice if you can’t tell us... we are here to save you...

[Kathranis]

You're lying.

One side says protestors because they care about the message and expect the rioters to be dealt with. The other side says rioters because they don't want to hear what the other side has to say.

And fuck off with that last line. No one says that liar.

I think they're calling them rioters because the police declared it a riot.