Whilst you can’t fix people leaving, you can lessen the impact on those who are still there.
Allow backfilling of players when the timer has expired. Absolutely no reason not to.
Whilst you can’t fix people leaving, you can lessen the impact on those who are still there.
Allow backfilling of players when the timer has expired. Absolutely no reason not to.
Gotcha. Cldve possibly been an innocent reason
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Not gonna make the key in time, don't want the leaver penalty. In this situation I could just afk and you'll be punished for leaving it
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Would the new player get the shot at loot, or would the player who left?
If new player does, then expect to clear til final boss and then get kicked for their friend. If you implement a policy where kicked players stull get loot to prevent that, ppl will either purposefully try to get kicked, or the group itself will just wait around until you decide fuck it and leave.
All of these situations worse than the current one
There is no solution due to the simple fact, that there are many valid reasons to leave an m+ dungeon.
But the issue was amplified by the reward structure of m+. I first thought, it would be incentivized to not leave dungeons due to the GV, but that is sadly not what is happening. Because it is likely that 1/5 people is already done with his GV, and wants loot. If you then wipe 3 times in the first 10 minutes, I understand someone not wanting to stay 30-40 more minutes for a 20% chance to get an item.
In short, a partial solution would be to "punish" a failed run only with a key downgrade, and not with less loot. That would also make people who despise the timer happier.
Well that is just my onion.
I just dont trust ppl lol. I've had it happen in raids this xpac already. "Full clear " runs, get up to generals or sire and they kick most of the raid out.
Right now they put the responsibility of M+ on the leader. Its up to the lead to decide who to invite and if someone leaves, that's the risk they took.
Well the way it is right now. Having to do 10 dungeons while getting very little loot makes me not wanna play alts anymore.
Unless you have friends to run with it's just a big chore, takes many hours and is simply not fun to play the game.
A rating system would greatly improve the experience and give group leaders some indication if potential members are likely to be toxic, leave early etc.
The whole idea of not doing something good for the game because a minority may abuse it shouldn't really be a consideration. Personally I don't feel like the vast majority of random people I play with are out to harm or inconvenience me for no reason whatsoever so any small number of troll ratings I received would be drowned out by genuine feedback.
Or even a simpler solution would be “pause” the M+ AND the timer if someone leaves and give X time to leader to search a substitute/s. If you want to continue in less than 5 or end the run, click the nice buttons related to the two options.
It’s as simple as that.
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The only reliable feedback would be early leaving based (because it’s a “recordable by the game” action, even if not tracked now).
Opinions about party members are too subjective.
If I'm on last boss and my wife calls freaking the fuck out abt something, I'm logging off. Or if I hear a loud bang down stairs I'm stepping away. Or I smell smoke. Or literally any other IRL reason
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See above reasons
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"You took a path different than the one I normally take, you get 0/5 rating from me"
"You are survival hunter and I just noticed. 0/5"
"You fucked up 1 single mechanic or i at least think you did. 0/5"
I dont think a rating system would work very well.
Just like yelp, ppl are only gonna bother to rate of its extremely good, or they mad abt something. Gonna be more perceived offenses than ppl taking the time to post good feedback for each individual in the group.
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What if I left at the 20 minute mark because we wiped 7x on first boss? Would that still get tracked?
I mean.... I had to step out to help a non responsive neighbor...
-Can you help, my wife is on the floor not responsive.
-Can you wait? I'm busy here you know.
That was one. The other time few years ago, police jumped into my garden trying to catch someone.
-KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK, Police here.
-Can you wait 5minutes?
Kid decided to put some plastic in the toaster. - Strong smell of burning plastic
-It can wait 5mins...
Do you even live in real world? There are a lot of very valid reasons to jump off the pc, even tho most of them happen very rarely.
I don't think there has to be a solution for this, as I see it I should be allowed to leave if people fail on stupid shit over and over, why do people expect me to come prepared knowing pull routes and percentages and shit when they can't even handle bombs in DoS...