Nancy Pelosi Reelected as Speaker of the House

[Felya]

Yeah he might even become president if he could do that.

He didn’t need to... The people who demanded war because Muslims were dancing on rooftops and vetoed congress denying him war powers vs Iran, are still in office...

[Jettisawn]

He didn’t need to... The people who demanded war because Muslims were dancing on rooftops and vetoed congress denying him war powers vs Iran, are still in office...

For a couple weeks, but other then the inauguration. Pence should be signing to confirm the electoral college tomorrow. Then again I put nothing past the current Administration. Not that I think they stand a chance to change the outcome.

Here is hoping New York DA can pin some of Trump's Financial crimes onto him. Something that is far more tangible. It would be great to see him in prison in his final years.

[postman1782]

You mean only after Trump tweeted it out about it? How very brave of her.

Before that is was a measly $600 and that was only after Bernie and Republican Josh Holley pushed for cash stimulus of $1200 that she couldn't deliver.

She has pushed for more money for everyone, since like fucking March. Don't say it was brave because of Trump. Trump was pushing something he knew wouldn't pass.

[Felya]

She has pushed for more money for everyone, since like fucking March. Don't say it was brave because of Trump. Trump was pushing something he knew wouldn't pass.

In March the talk was still that democrats just hate Trump and would do anything to oppose him...

[Gestopft]

There seem to be practical differences between cosponsoring and actually voting on it.

Technical yes; practical no. When it obviously won't pass, co-sponsoring is basically the same symbolic "yes" as a doomed floor vote.

Well, the problem is that messaging against #ForceTheVote disenfranchises Democratic voters who are majority in favor for it and so undermines Democratic (and "progressive") chances in next elections.

Dude, I've been arguing for M4A as both a policy and as something Dems should run on for years. Check the receipts. Forcing a vote right NOW in Congress, as it is constituted, is a potentially damage waste of time. It's very unlikely that an official "no" from Congress is going to be some sort of mass voter mobilization for the cause, as much as we would like to imagine that it would be.

So tactically it would be better to ride the wave (even if results would not be bill actually passing and it would have died on any level), get people pumped for it, get various organizations rally for it, and then bludgeon Republicans (and non-progressive Democrats) congressmen with results in 2022 and 2024.

You do that on the ground, not in Congress. Vote more pro-people in, and when you get enough you can pressure the rest by making it clear that this is a voting issue for the electorate. If you vote now, it will be harder to pressure the people that need to be pressured into 'yes.' If there was a crashing and burning in Congress just a few years prior, they will be much more hesitant to switch their positions when there actually might be enough leverage to get it done.

[beanman12345]

In a perfect world, we get a M4A bill, in a perfect world we impeach trump again, but since neither accomplish anything since they go nowhere in the senate, we got less then 15 days before we have another president, we should be spending time on getting as much relief to American's without wasting time on purity tests. jeez it's not like there is a fkn pandemic thousands dying every day, oxygen shortages, care rationing, "but we need to do it now or it won't be done people need to be held responsible." gtfo with that bullshit.

[Doctor Amadeus]

I support Nance but she did fuck up on the stimulus package. She still best and most qualified.

I’m also impressed with AOC. She’s growed up a bit.

And Fuck Jimmy Dore lol. And any of the The Young Turds

[beanman12345]

I support Nance but she did fuck up on the stimulus package. She still best and most qualified.

I’m also impressed with AOC. She’s growed up a bit.

And Fuck Jimmy Dore lol. And any of the The Young Turds

the young turds are with AOC and Dore burned all bridges with them by shitting on them, and they shat on him back, because he's a dumbshit trying to grift. Hasan Pike is awesome though because of his copium vids.

[Edge-]

the young turds are with AOC and Dore burned all bridges with them by shitting on them, and they shat on him back, because he's a dumbshit trying to grift. Hasan Pike is awesome though because of his copium vids.

Remember that time Cenk wasn't able to break single digits when he ran for office, after his multiple run-ins and screaming matches with Alex Jones where two tried to out-crazy each other?

Those were good times.

[PACOX]

She has pushed for more money for everyone, since like fucking March. Don't say it was brave because of Trump. Trump was pushing something he knew wouldn't pass.

She eventually decided to go for more money but don't give her more credit that what's due. Pelosi has done a lot of positive things but only after others have taken the actual risks. Unfortunately that means she often acts too late and too slow, making her efforts hollow, transparent, and easily defeated.

You can't forget how she stood for eight hours in the name of healthcare. Can't forgot how terrible aid has been handled under her as well. The current bill was passed with the exact same Congress as before the elections. Wonder why?

[Doctor Amadeus]

the young turds are with AOC and Dore burned all bridges with them by shitting on them, and they shat on him back, because he's a dumbshit trying to grift.

Yeah and what pisses me off is him attacking AOC. Like dude I’m all for a public Option or universal healthcare.

But it’s not fucking going to happen. Even the magic conservatives they think will vote for it like Trumpsters won’t.

They are so damn scared of socialist they’ll burn it to the ground before it even comes up for a vote and with Mitch it never will ever.

Jimmy Dore is a dip shit sell out just like Cenk. It laughable they are bashing each other.


Universal Healthcare can come but we need to help people NOW and educate them on the way.

Cult45 is worse than anyone could have predicted.

[beanman12345]

Remember that time Cenk wasn't able to break single digits when he ran for office, after his multiple run-ins and screaming matches with Alex Jones where two tried to out-crazy each other?

Those were good times.

The one time I ever cheered for Dore when he spit his water in Jones face.

[Doctor Amadeus]

She eventually decided to go for more money but don't give her more credit that what's due. Pelosi has done a lot of positive things but only after others have taken the actual risks. Unfortunately that means she often acts too late and too slow, making her efforts hollow, transparent, and easily defeated.

You can't forget how she stood for eight hours in the name of healthcare. Can't forgot how terrible aid has been handled under her as well. The current bill was passed with the exact same Congress as before the elections. Wonder why?

Yeah Nancy fucked up and over played and under estimated what a scumbag Mitch would be.

But AOC or someone seemingly radical would just give Mitch more fuel for the evil socialist BS.

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Remember that time Cenk wasn't able to break single digits when he ran for office, after his multiple run-ins and screaming matches with Alex Jones where two tried to out-crazy each other?

Those were good times.

There was once upon a time I thought Cenk meant well. But when he took money from some Alt Right groups along with the rest. I was completely out of any reason to see him as anything more than an opportunist.

[beanman12345]

Yeah and what pisses me off is him attacking AOC. Like dude I’m all for a public Option or universal healthcare.

But it’s not fucking going to happen. Even the magic conservatives they think will vote for it like Trumpsters won’t.

They are so damn scared of socialist they’ll burn it to the ground before it even comes up for a vote and with Mitch it never will ever.

Jimmy Dore is a dip shit sell out just like Cenk. It laughable they are bashing each other.


Universal Healthcare can come but we need to help people NOW and educate them on the way.

Cult45 is worse than anyone could have predicted.

yeah the cenk dore feud i just found out last night or night before, histerical. fighting over who's the bigger sellout. Something similar happened on CNN Amanda Carpenter calling scaramucci a dumbass for working for trump, and scaramucci calling Carpenter a dumbass for working with ted cruz, funniest shit i've ever seen on that network.

[Edge-]

She eventually decided to go for more money but don't give her more credit that what's due. Pelosi has done a lot of positive things but only after others have taken the actual risks. Unfortunately that means she often acts too late and too slow, making her efforts hollow, transparent, and easily defeated.

You can't forget how she stood for eight hours in the name of healthcare. Can't forgot how terrible aid has been handled under her as well. The current bill was passed with the exact same Congress as before the elections. Wonder why?

Eventually...you know, after the House passed the May and October stimulus packages with $1,200 in both.

Who took the risks for her to pass those? Or to jump on board Trump opening up a wedge between him and McConnell with the $2K payments?

I mean, Sanders filibustered for 8 hours a decade ago. Good on him, but I'm not sure what risk he took with a safe seat and accomplished what appears to be nothing? His sway in the Democratic party came when he ran for president, not before.

Wonder why? Because Republicans turned it into a political football by sitting on their hands for 6 months and this is all they'd agree to. Good lord, y'all keep acting like Democrats are the fuckin problem despite the fact that House Democrats are the only ones who have made any effort to do anything.

[PACOX]

Yeah Nancy fucked up and over played and under estimated what a scumbag Mitch would be.

But AOC or someone seemingly radical would just give Mitch more fuel for the evil socialist BS.

Placing someone as young and inexperienced as AOC in that kind of leadership position would be a disaster. Leadership and run the ship is a different skill set from being able to articulate good ideas.

One gets to throw ideas at a wall without much consequence. The other has to be be able to weigh outcomes, accept the good and the bad, and navigate through all of it.

Ill meme AOC 2024 all day but she has a put in a lot more time to actually develop leadership skills.

[beanman12345]

She eventually decided to go for more money but don't give her more credit that what's due. Pelosi has done a lot of positive things but only after others have taken the actual risks. Unfortunately that means she often acts too late and too slow, making her efforts hollow, transparent, and easily defeated.

You can't forget how she stood for eight hours in the name of healthcare. Can't forgot how terrible aid has been handled under her as well. The current bill was passed with the exact same Congress as before the elections. Wonder why?

She often does act too late and slow, but realize she has a big tent that she has to contend with, not to mention obstructionists RNC. Lack of aid was not her fault. But her acting slow and late is a problem. one I have a problem with Warren too tbh. I was huge fan of Warren, but her waiting so damn long to protest against DAPL really put me off of her.

[Doctor Amadeus]

Placing someone as young and inexperienced as AOC in that kind of leadership position would be a disaster. Leadership and run the ship is a different skill set from being able to articulate good ideas.

One gets to throw ideas at a wall without much consequence. The other has to be be able to weigh outcomes, accept the good and the bad, and navigate through all of it.

Ill meme AOC 2024 all day but she has a put in a lot more time to actually develop leadership skills.

Yep I agree. I love AOC fire Katie Porter is another. But Mitch would destroy her. No it’s not fair it is BS but it’s called politics for a reason.

Mitch already maligned over the Green NEW Deal which was good. But Mitch and the Right Wing machine used it.

[Edge-]

Katie Porter

If I ever see that lady and she's holding a whiteboard and dry erase marker looking my way I'll be doing my Jesse Owens impression.

[Doctor Amadeus]

She often does act too late and slow, but realize she has a big tent that she has to contend with, not to mention obstructionists RNC. Lack of aid was not her fault. But her acting slow and late is a problem. one I have a problem with Warren too tbh. I was huge fan of Warren, but her waiting so damn long to protest against DAPL really put me off of her.

Exactly trying to please everyone with no strategy people think well you know mainstream media is left etc.

No the mainstream leans whichever way gets them views. Just like Talk News Radio heard by old timers that shit seems to lean right hard.

And when you have preaching the left will take your guns kill your grand children and sell your job to China these listeners believe that shit.

They aren’t going to embrace AOC. Experience matters.

Nobody wants to compromise just for the sake of it. And it’s easy to call someone else a sellout when others do nothing but act destructive.

This is why Cenk and Dore ain’t going anywhere. More money to try to grift on the left. Whether they know or not they help Trump and the Alt Right.

If the left were ever an echo Chambers or all thought the same we wouldn’t tolerate the bullshit that causes in fighting. But we do be that’s the real deal.

Instead of telling people only what they want to here. Dore and Cenk want a fucking cult