Poll: Do you support universal health care? Why or why not?

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    Do you support universal health care? Why or why not?

    Most Americans found Bernie's policies extremely controversial, even many Democrats, at least among the older generation. I personally do not understand why Republicans -- and I actually do not believe all conservative policies are necessarily entirely wrong -- are so stubborn when it comes to health care reform. I have found it difficult to even find a uniform health care policy that most Republican politicians and voters actually agree upon, if such exists at all. If they really made it a priority, and higher education's student debt problem as well, then many more young people would...perhaps not vote for them, but at least be less overwhelmingly pro-Democrat.

    What are your personal views? Do you support universal health care for the United States? Why or why not?
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    I live in the UK, so yes I'm pro universal health care.

    Its like the 2 things you don't fuck with in the UK at least publicly, the nhs and the monarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OwenBurton View Post
    Most Americans found Bernie's policies extremely controversial, even many Democrats, at least among the older generation. I personally do not understand why Republicans -- and I actually do not believe all conservative policies are necessarily entirely wrong -- are so stubborn when it comes to health care reform. I have found it difficult to even find a uniform health care policy that most Republican politicians and voters actually agree upon, if such exists at all. If they really made it a priority, and higher education's student debt problem as well, then many more young people would...perhaps not vote for them, but at least be less overwhelmingly pro-Democrat.

    What are your personal views? Do you support universal health care for the United States? Why or why not?
    Short Answer: I support it because it would provide much better health care coverage in the US at lower cost.

    Reality? It ain't happening. Voters sent a very loud message to democrats this election cycle: NO WAY AT ALL for universal health care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OwenBurton View Post
    -- and I actually do not believe all conservative policies are necessarily entirely wrong --
    The GOP has spent
    • Last 10 years trying too undo the ACA.
    • About the last 60 years trying to undo Medicare and Medicaid.
    Restricting Access
    Starving funding
    Privatizing them
    Turning them into coupons

    Sorry, they wrong hun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PresidentElectMilchschake View Post
    The GOP has spent
    • Last 10 years trying too undo the ACA.
    • About the last 60 years trying to undo Medicare and Medicaid.
    Restricting Access
    Starving funding
    Privatizing them
    Turning them into coupons

    Sorry, they wrong hun.
    American conservatives are wierd.

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    Hell yes I do, but more people like Biden's plan than Bernie, a shit ton more, across the board, no matter political affiliation, and it's not even close. But public option will make health insurance access improve immeasurably, I'd rather absolutely no one fall's through the cracks, but since that's the only potentially available option right now and it's what more people want, than it is what it is, for now. Still not gonna give up the fight though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    Why would anybody be against universal health care?
    Some people are assholes. That's if unfortunate reason.

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    Yes.

    Because the alternative is the fetishization of human suffering.

    It pretty much is that black and white.


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    If your Doctor fails to save you, who they gonna bill? Just make it a government paid job like the military already. If you can socialise the military and missile makers, you can socialise your actual life savers.

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    i fully support it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    Why would anybody be against universal health care?
    Because it's socialism, and that's always bad, no matter what. If we get universal healthcare, the obvious next step is a dictatorship and tyranny, like what has happened in Europe and Canada. I wish I didn't have to explain that this was a joke, thanks Trump.

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    I've free health care and I wouldn't want to deprive any of my neighbours of it. I can't think of anything more ruthless than privatising health care, policing or fire fighters. It's just not something a civilized society does.

    Don't like, upward of 50k people die in the US each year from a lack of insurance?
    Who wants that? Isn't that a better question?

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    yup, its morally right and uplifts everybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OwenBurton View Post
    What are your personal views? Do you support universal health care for the United States? Why or why not?
    Yes, and in some places it doesn't go far enough. We have universal health care in Canada, but it still doesn't cover everything. I'd also like to see dental covered as well since it is part of health care.

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    Hell yeah. We have it in here, and it's great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magicalcrab View Post
    I've free health care and I wouldn't want to deprive any of my neighbours of it. I can't think of anything more ruthless than privatising health care, policing or fire fighters. It's just not something a civilized society does.

    Don't like, upward of 50k people die in the US each year from a lack of insurance?
    Who wants that? Isn't that a better question?
    And prisons. Privatizing those was such a brilliant idea. Think of all those policemen and prison guards this system creates. JOBS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monster Hunter View Post
    I live in the UK, so yes I'm pro universal health care.

    Its like the 2 things you don't fuck with in the UK at least publicly, the nhs and the monarchy.
    Yet you spend all your time bitching about the Labour party, the only major political force in the UK that wasn't trying to sell it off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monster Hunter View Post
    I live in the UK, so yes I'm pro universal health care.

    Its like the 2 things you don't fuck with in the UK at least publicly, the nhs and the monarchy.
    Yet you spend all your time bitching about the Labour party, the only major political force in the UK that wasn't trying to sell it off. /

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monster Hunter View Post
    I live in the UK, so yes I'm pro universal health care.

    Its like the 2 things you don't fuck with in the UK at least publicly, the nhs and the monarchy.
    Yet you spend all your time bitching about the Labour party, the only major political force in the UK that wasn't trying to sell it off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PresidentElectMilchschake View Post
    The GOP has spent
    [LIST][*]Last 10 years trying too undo the ACA.
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    The ACA is actually Romneycare in all but name. It is just another private healthcare system that is marginally more efficient than the fucked-up system you already have.
    You have essentially two conservative parties with two terrible policies arguing over which terrible policy should be instigated and people becoming emotionally invested in that outcome to marginalize the very obvious, sensible, practical choice of universal healthcare. This is how you control stupid Americans (and the British for that matter) and get them to vote against their own interest.

    And yes, you are just as bad as the conservatives for the very obvious reason that you are quite literally arguing for a conservative policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    Hell yes I do, but more people like Biden's plan than Bernie, a shit ton more, across the board, no matter political affiliation, and it's not even close.
    You think whatever your media tells you, idiot. You'd cut off your own dick if CNN told you Trump opposed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matheney2k View Post
    Why would anybody be against universal health care?
    Because it's useless? No one with the choice submits themselves to the horrors of the UK NHS. I wouldn't wish it on anybody. The only argument for it is as a health service for emergencies only, if you get run over by a bus for example.

    For anything elective stay well away if you can afford to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Because it's useless? No one with the choice submits themselves to the horrors of the UK NHS. I wouldn't wish it on anybody. The only argument for it is as a health service for emergencies only, if you get run over by a bus for example.

    For anything elective stay well away if you can afford to.
    That's complete bullshit, like everything you post, and you know it. For each 'horror story' you can find you'll find a thousand people who would have died or lived a diminished existence if not for the care provided by the UKs NHS.

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