Poll: Should Congress Impeach Trump Again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PresidentElectMilchschake View Post
    Lol people always falling for "McConnell rumored to do something reasonable."
    Also, people falling for an Axios Rumor.

    Yesterday: "AXIOS LEAK: Mitch McConnell 'leaning towards maybe supporting impeachment........at the start of the Biden presidency.......when he will come up with some excuse to vote no.'

    Today: McConnell’s office called Schumer’s people today + told them McConnell would not consent to reconvening immediately under the 2004 emergency authorities, a person familiar says. So the Senate won’t reconvene Friday, or almost certainly before Jan. 19. Trial in Biden term


    Very Online people.
    Forgetting that gigantic pieces of shit are still gigantic pieces of shit at the end of the day.

    It's like all the Josh Hawley stans that are trying to pretend they weren't big fans of his a few weeks back.

    Or like, anyone believing the 4 years of, "Anonymous aides say that Republicans are very angry with Trump and don't like him at all and want to get rid of him and he's just so bad." followed by literally 4 years of inaction from the Republican party on just about anything to challenge or check Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Forgetting that gigantic pieces of shit are still gigantic pieces of shit at the end of the day.

    It's like all the Josh Hawley stans that are trying to pretend they weren't big fans of his a few weeks back.

    Or like, anyone believing the 4 years of, "Anonymous aides say that Republicans are very angry with Trump and don't like him at all and want to get rid of him and he's just so bad." followed by literally 4 years of inaction from the Republican party on just about anything to challenge or check Trump.
    In fairness, losing their corporate sponsors is what got Fox to can O'Reily. There's no reason to think that the same wouldn't happen here if the GOP loses too many sources of income.

    You have to remember that these tools care more about their paycheck than anything else, except maybe Graham who's always looking for a new top to submit to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    The problem is that their party exists only by merit of a flimsy net woven of gerrymandering, lock-step politics, voter suppression and a shrinking demographic base so that they are always “waiting for the polls.”

    This should be a political reckoning for the GOP internally. Assessing what they were complicit in and how they could stoop so low in support of Trump. But no; I can say with fair confidence the only thing they are currently thinking about is how to pull Trump’s cultists back into their voting base and how they’re going to make Biden’s presidency as difficult as possible, eyeing what gains they can make in 2022 and how best to obstruct and blame the democrats until then.
    The GOP is going to splinter it's really the Trump party now even out of office his cult will continue and they are angry at republicans for not making Trump dictator for life. They have painted themselves into a corner it's exactly as the title of that book says everything Trump touches dies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    The GOP is going to splinter it's really the Trump party now even out of office his cult will continue and they are angry at republicans for not making Trump dictator for life. They have painted themselves into a corner it's exactly as the title of that book says everything Trump touches dies.
    Would be nice if this ended up being what causes the US to have three major political parties. Not holding my breath though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    Senate isn't even voting until after Biden is sworn in, so it's a moot hypothetical.
    I posted what before the vote and that story came out. But you are right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thekri View Post
    The odds of having 4 US Presidents in 8 days is exactly zero.

    For one thing, the chance of the Senate voting on its trial before the 20th is also zero, which prevents the first step from happening. The 25th amendment wouldn't actually make Pence president, it only makes him acting President, Trump would still be President, just unable to execute any of the powers of the office.

    So the only theoretical chance of that happening is if Trump and Pence both resigned, and why on earth would they do that?
    Other than screwing over Pelosi nothing really. Fun thought exercise. I posted that before the Senate not coming back story broke.

  5. #425
    Quote Originally Posted by PresidentElectMilchschake View Post
    Lol people always falling for "McConnell rumored to do something reasonable."
    Also, people falling for an Axios Rumor.

    Yesterday: "AXIOS LEAK: Mitch McConnell 'leaning towards maybe supporting impeachment........at the start of the Biden presidency.......when he will come up with some excuse to vote no.'

    Today: McConnell’s office called Schumer’s people today + told them McConnell would not consent to reconvening immediately under the 2004 emergency authorities, a person familiar says. So the Senate won’t reconvene Friday, or almost certainly before Jan. 19. Trial in Biden term


    Very Online people.
    Also don't for a second believe a single thing Murkowski says. "i want witnesses" votes no witnesses "no SCOTUS replacement before election" votes to confirm acb "I am very mad at trump" will probably vote to acquit. The only people I think will vote to kick him out are Romney. Sasse slightly less confident, but he's the next closest, and have no belief any of the rest will, but do I hope to be wrong.

    Romney don't give a shit, but as someone said it's all about how much donor money they're potentially to lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logwyn View Post
    Would be nice if this ended up being what causes the US to have three major political parties. Not holding my breath though.
    The way our electoral system is set up is what causes us to only have two major political parties. If one of them split, all it would accomplish is two parties cannibalizing each other's votes while the third takes most of the wins, until one of the first two emerges as the dominant option.

    It's been that way basically since Washington declined to run for re-election. Back then it was the Federalists and the Democratic-Republicans. The Democratic-Republicans eventually became the Democrats, and the Federalists were replaced by the National Republicans, who were replaced by the Whigs, who were replaced by the Republicans. Even when Teddy Roosevelt left the Republican Party to run under the Bull Moose Party, his popularity only ended up splitting the vote and giving the win to the Democrats.

    Quote Originally Posted by Logwyn View Post
    Does she keep her Congressional seat after the 20th? Do we get a new speaker?
    Just for the sake of argument, if the President and Vice President both vacated their offices and the Speaker of the House was promoted to the Presidency, she would indeed be forced to resign from the House and they would subsequently vote for a new Speaker. You can't serve in both the Executive and Legislative branches at the same time. It's the same reason why Kamala Harris will be required to resign from the Senate before being sworn in as Vice President.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    They’re already doing that. ‘Unity!’ Where was unity when they were all showing their fascist colours...
    Pretty much. Seems the insurrectionists had a lot of inside help from many Republican officials. Now that their little insurrection failed, they're like the villain that's been caught after attempting and failing to murder someone (in this case democracy) and they're cowering in a corner meekly asking "Peace?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    Pretty much. Seems the insurrectionists had a lot of inside help from many Republican officials. Now that their little insurrection failed, they're like the villain that's been caught after attempting and failing to murder someone (in this case democracy) and they're cowering in a corner meekly asking "Peace?"
    That's a little incorrect 140 house republicans and 6 senators are still claiming the election was stolen so in this case the villain is still trying to kill you while asking for a hug.

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    Breaking News: A House majority voted to impeach President Trump a historic second time. He is charged with “inciting violence against the government.”




    Democrats went 222-0 today.

    It didn't happen in 1868, in 1998, or in 2019. Tulsi, the congress person from Putin, voted "not present" in 2019. This is why Tulsi and her onlyfans are so sus.
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    Imagine having more impeachments than presidential terms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Imagine having more impeachments than presidential terms.
    That the best part... we don’t have to imagine...
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    Also for all those dumdums that thought McConnell was acting in good faith.
    The same dumdums that thought McConnell would even let you sniff $2000.


    Like Covid relief. McConnell will refuse a floor vote in the Senate.

    MCCONNELL says no impeachment trial until after inauguration: “I believe it will best serve our nation if Congress and the executive branch spend the next seven days completely focused on facilitating a safe inauguration and an orderly transfer of power”


    Stop letting your self get played by McConnell. Or the reporters that fawn over him. They're just praying for invites to his next cocktail party.
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  13. #433
    Quote Originally Posted by PresidentElectMilchschake View Post
    Like Covid relief. McConnell will refuse a floor vote in the Senate.
    Yeah, but this time the leopard told me that if I put my face in its mouth it wouldn't eat me. I dunno, after it ate my face the past 500 times it told me this I think it's finally being honest with me. My stiches from the last time are still fresh, so at least it'll be easy to put that part of my face back together.

  14. #434
    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    That the best part... we don’t have to imagine...
    So good, try to check it on wikipedia, and they're like "which one of the impeachments are you trying to look?"

  15. #435
    Quote Originally Posted by PresidentElectMilchschake View Post
    Also for all those dumdums that thought McConnell was acting in good faith.
    The same dumdums that thought McConnell would even let you sniff $2000.


    Like Covid relief. McConnell will refuse a floor vote in the Senate.

    MCCONNELL says no impeachment trial until after inauguration: “I believe it will best serve our nation if Congress and the executive branch spend the next seven days completely focused on facilitating a safe inauguration and an orderly transfer of power”


    Stop letting your self get played by McConnell. Or the reporters that fawn over him. They're just praying for invites to his next cocktail party.
    Everyone operating under the assumption that Democrats were expecting this to be expedited to take place in the next week are well...wrong. Whether Mitch is a shithead or not, he would’ve informed Schumer and Pelosi of this before they even started the process. It’s not news to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PresidentElectMilchschake View Post
    Also for all those dumdums that thought McConnell was acting in good faith.
    The same dumdums that thought McConnell would even let you sniff $2000.


    Like Covid relief. McConnell will refuse a floor vote in the Senate.

    MCCONNELL says no impeachment trial until after inauguration: “I believe it will best serve our nation if Congress and the executive branch spend the next seven days completely focused on facilitating a safe inauguration and an orderly transfer of power”
    [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErpMZPUXMAIvG40?format=jpg&name=small[/IMG

    Stop letting your self get played by McConnell. Or the reporters that fawn over him. They're just praying for invites to his next cocktail party.
    wait congress should spend the next 7 days focused on transition? uh, senate is out of session for the next 6 days. basically "we need the next 6 days to get in our final bit of sitting on our asses after not doing our jobs for years because in 7 days, which is when I lose my ability to completely obstruct, and we'll have to actually, do some work."

  17. #437
    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Imagine having more impeachments than presidential terms.
    Imagine the only popular vote you win is the one to impeach you. Twice.

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...tType=amp&s=09

    When Donald Trump on Wednesday became the first president ever impeached twice in a bipartisan rebuke, he did so as a leader increasingly isolated, sullen and vengeful.

    With less than seven days remaining in his presidency, Trump’s inner circle is shrinking, offices in his White House are emptying, and the president is lashing out at some of those who remain. He is angry that his allies have not mounted a more forceful defense of his incitement of the mob that stormed the Capitol last week, advisers and associates said.

    Though Trump has been exceptionally furious with Vice President Pence, his relationship with lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani, one of his most steadfast defenders, is also fracturing, according to people with knowledge of the dynamics between the men.

    Trump has instructed aides not to pay Giuliani’s legal fees, two officials said, and has demanded that he personally approve any reimbursements for the expenses Giuliani incurred while traveling on the president’s behalf to challenge election results in key states. They said Trump has privately expressed concern with some of Giuliani’s moves and did not appreciate a demand from Giuliani for $20,000 a day in fees for his work attempting to overturn the election.

    As he watched impeachment quickly gain steam, Trump was upset generally that virtually nobody is defending him — including press secretary Kayleigh McEnany, senior adviser and son-in-law Jared Kushner, economic adviser Larry Kudlow, national security adviser Robert C. O’Brien and Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, according to a senior administration official.

    “The president is pretty wound up,” said the senior administration official, who, like some others interviewed, spoke on the condition of anonymity to be candid. “No one is out there.”
    More in the link but damn, is the Rudy/Trump bromance finally gonna come to an end?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    The GOP is going to splinter it's really the Trump party now even out of office his cult will continue and they are angry at republicans for not making Trump dictator for life. They have painted themselves into a corner it's exactly as the title of that book says everything Trump touches dies.
    Without Trump goading them on (and ESPECIALLY if he's disqualified from running for office,) I think the majority of Trump's cult will just file back into the ranks of the GOP. They don't have the attention span to remember what the GOP did or did not do two years prior to 2022, especially if the GOP is back on their normal bullshit of blaming the democrats for everything and telling them socialist immigrant boogeymen are coming to rape their jobs. They'll be far more afraid of that than they will care about what some members of the GOP did or said two years prior.
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  20. #440
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    Everyone operating under the assumption that Democrats were expecting this to be expedited to take place in the next week are well...wrong. Whether Mitch is a shithead or not, he would’ve informed Schumer and Pelosi of this before they even started the process. It’s not news to them.
    It's not news to us, either; he was clear that the Senate is out of session until the 19th as early as last week.

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