View Poll Results: Should Parler be deplatformed?

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  1. #821
    Well a poster is determined to spread lies and misinformation.

    In its legal response, Amazon cites the type of Parler content that conservatives apparently want to defend.
    Take a look:





    Pretty clear violations by Parler.

    Nixon taught us that; Cheaters and trolls always mad they get caught. Not mad for breaking any rules.


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  2. #822
    Quote Originally Posted by PresidentElectMilchschake View Post
    Alexa, how many days is seven weeks? Is it more than 30?

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    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...=bffbbuzzfeed&

    self-described member of the extremist Proud Boys group allegedly used Parler to threaten the life of Georgia Senator-elect Raphael Warnock and discuss traveling to the US Capitol to cause violence, authorities said Wednesday.

    Eduard Florea, 40, was arrested at his home in Queens, New York, by the FBI on Tuesday night. There, authorities said they found more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition despite Florea previously having been convicted in 2013 of a firearms-related felony.

    Appearing in Brooklyn Federal Court, he was charged with being a convicted felon in possession of ammunition. If convicted, he faces 10 years in prison.

    "For those of you out there with similar intentions, heed this warning — knock it off, or expect to see us at your door,” said FBI Assistant Director-in-Charge William Sweeney.
    Alexa, are direct death threats considered protected speech?

  3. #823
    Quote Originally Posted by kamuimac View Post
    Trump is a clown and i couldnt care less about him

    what i care about is denying freedom of speach to people anywhere in world.

    and this is what just started on mass scale.

    its not about Trump as Trump - its about fb/twitter silencing President of United States.
    No it's not, you are lying.

    This is a business that has decided they don't want to work with Nazis.

    Period.

    The end.

    I get that you want to cosplay as a supporter of capitalism when it suits your national socialistic agenda... but in order to do so, you really should be more consistent.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.

  4. #824
    Quote Originally Posted by kamuimac View Post
    its not about Trump as Trump - its about fb/twitter silencing President of United States.
    I got no problems with social media companies pulling heads of state off their platform if they violate the rules and incite violence. None whatsoever. None of them need the platform anyways, they're heads of state with access to a multitude of other options by virtue of their position alone.

    This hasn't been, and probably will not ever again be, a problem for other presidents.

  5. #825
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    No it's not, you are lying.

    This is a business that has decided they don't want to work with Nazis.

    Period.

    The end.

    I get that you want to cosplay as a supporter of capitalism when it suits your national socialistic agenda... but in order to do so, you really should be more consistent.
    Look at those Parler comments. No surprise our nazi-adjacent posters are defending that level of hate and anti-Semitism.

  6. #826
    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    When your argument that a solution to perceived censorship, is government moderation, the problem should be obvious. As I keep pointing out... these sort of arguments are not about free speech, but access to social media... as in... it’s an argument for social media to be a utility. Bizarre, when argued by free market conservatives...
    Its happening practice but the process is being controlled by corporations. Id rather that process be controlled in a way everyone can have some input either that or crank up the anti-trust to the max

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    They have no principles anymore aside from protect the dear leader's feefees.
    I have principles but I dont have a principle that says companies should do whatever they want whenever they want. Forms of governance are a means to an end not the end itself after all.

  7. #827
    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    Its happening practice but the process is being controlled by corporations.
    Who's been censored? Trump just put out a video address today, and was on TV in Alamo yesterday. Lin Wood? Death threats aren't protected speech anyways. David Clarke? Doesn't he still have a podcast? Devin Nunes? He was just on Fox News, cable television, complaining. That lady with the "CENSORED" mask in Congress? She was literally on the floor of the House speaking at an event heavily covered by the press and broadcast live.

    I'm not gonna cry over social media companies "censoring" death threats that are already not protected by the First Amendment.

    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    Id rather that process be controlled in a way everyone can have some input either that or crank up the anti-trust to the max
    That'd be public ownership, so more or less socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    I have principles but I dont have a principle that says companies should do whatever they want whenever they want. Forms of governance are a means to an end not the end itself after all.
    Nor do these companies for the most part. They have rules, and when people are kicked off the platform it's usually because the rules have been violated. Rules they agreed to. The same goes for Parler and AWS. They agreed to rules in order to use Amazon's hosting service. They violated those rules. They were warned about the violations and told to take action to correct it. They did not.

    They lost access.

    Which is precisely how it should work.

  8. #828
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    I think it is an issue when something like Amazon can just decide to take out businesses on their own. Today it is Parler, but tomorrow they might start getting in over their heads. It is quite different from Twitter and a dangerous different at that, in my opinion.
    They absolutely have the right to do that. If someone is using their services, they have ANY RIGHT to terminate their hosting at any time if they want to. It is the same as when Twitter banned Trump, they have every right to do so.

  9. #829
    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    They absolutely have the right to do that. If someone is using their services, they have ANY RIGHT to terminate their hosting at any time if they want to. It is the same as when Twitter banned Trump, they have every right to do so.
    Bingo. People who see it as otherwise need to remember that neither web hosting or social media is state sponsored or funded. The same way that the cake shop in wherever-the-fuck can refuse to do gay weddings, AWS can remove whomever they like. They’re not obliged to provide the service.

  10. #830
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    Bingo. People who see it as otherwise need to remember that neither web hosting or social media is state sponsored or funded. The same way that the cake shop in wherever-the-fuck can refuse to do gay weddings, AWS can remove whomever they like. They’re not obliged to provide the service.
    Yep, they signed a contract, something similar to a terms of service when they asked to be hosted by AWS, and they violated that contract when they let people run around inciting violence and threatening to kill people.

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  12. #832
    Quote Originally Posted by PresidentElectMilchschake View Post
    Look at those Parler comments. No surprise our nazi-adjacent posters are defending that level of hate and anti-Semitism.
    What pisses me off the most, is this shit was allowed for as long as it was. It's been frustrating as fuck, like what the fuck were they thinking the last several years with all this shit going on, with their businesses. And btw, like facebook? The stuff they are doing, just for US PR, they ain't cutting any of this shit abroad. Like facebook in Brazil a judge ruled that a dozen folk needed to be banned for fake news and inciting violence against their judges and facebook fought against it. This was just a few months ago... Twitter tried to fight that same ruling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    Its happening practice but the process is being controlled by corporations. Id rather that process be controlled in a way everyone can have some input either that or crank up the anti-trust to the max
    You're arguing for an authoritarian seizure of all branches of media, so that the government can fully control speech throughout the nation.

    That is not in any respect a defense of anyone's rights and freedoms. It's fascist authoritarian doublespeak to justify their encroachment of people's rights.

  14. #834
    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    Its happening practice but the process is being controlled by corporations. Id rather that process be controlled in a way everyone can have some input either that or crank up the anti-trust to the max

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    I have principles but I dont have a principle that says companies should do whatever they want whenever they want. Forms of governance are a means to an end not the end itself after all.
    So, you want outright leftist socialism?

    Man, you Trumpsters are doing laps around that horseshoe.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    Its happening practice but the process is being controlled by corporations. Id rather that process be controlled in a way everyone can have some input either that or crank up the anti-trust to the max
    If a corporation like Amazon does it, Parlor can host their servers on azure or their own servers. When government does it, THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE... yet... that’s freedom? You want it to be like China, where government controls social media?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System



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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    So, you want outright leftist socialism?
    Wrong scale... this is totalitarianism. Remember, Trump got kicked off social media, not GOP or conservatives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Collective ownership of industry is the base of a socialist society.

    Nationalization is one path to that. So are worker collectives and co-operatives and union-run shops and so forth. Nationalisation is by no means a requirement of socialism.
    I'm honestly lost why people miss the collective industry ownership part being the goal... and the people who speak out against it...

    Well... at least give everyone a vote. I'm sure a minimum wage bank teller wouldn't be voting to give their CEO a 15 million dollar raise because they managed to make the company billions by praying on people with $35 overdraft fees... the people who have the least amount of money to begin with.
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    Black women are racist. Im the one trying to make her[my wife] behave like white people and not say it out loud.
    Totally not racist

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    Quote Originally Posted by NED funded View Post
    Its happening practice but the process is being controlled by corporations. Id rather that process be controlled in a way everyone can have some input either that or crank up the anti-trust to the max

    Twitter/facebook/ect is part of a capitalist free market. The people have more say than you want to admit. Or you don't want to admit most agree with them
    I have a fan. Seems he was permabanned.
    Yo, don't mind my "street talk"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    So, you want outright leftist socialism?

    Man, you Trumpsters are doing laps around that horseshoe.
    Nationalising the media to ensure messaging is government-approved is more akin to right-wing fascism and authoritarianism in general, not socialist theory.

  19. #839
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    So, you want outright leftist socialism?

    Man, you Trumpsters are doing laps around that horseshoe.
    Leftism socialism?? Felya had it right the first time when he mentioned utilities

    Dont tell me you are going to call utilities socialism now (_-_)

  20. #840
    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    Twitter/facebook/ect is part of a capitalist free market. The people have more say than you want to admit. Or you don't want to admit most agree with them
    and thx god there is a reason why anti-monopolism laws exist in EU . here they wouldnt dare to pull stunt like this as it would cost them billions of $$$

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