Damn i thought the 250g comment was hyperbole, but shit if it's not 497g for cloth bracers right now, Though seems to be an outlier, but yeah cloth runecarving gear is cheap af, even 235 most expensive is 25k g.
Damn i thought the 250g comment was hyperbole, but shit if it's not 497g for cloth bracers right now, Though seems to be an outlier, but yeah cloth runecarving gear is cheap af, even 235 most expensive is 25k g.
Neither is contradicting yourself multiple times.
You say there is "nothing to do", and yet have barely scratched the surface of content on offer.
You say things are too easy, but haven't even got to the harder difficulties.
You say you cant get a legendary, and yet actively avoid doing the activities that would allow you to get the legendary.
You say no one is allowed to suggest you quit / take a break, and yet admit yourself that you dont actually have fun playing the game.
People have offered very constructive and genuine solutions to your perceived "problems" and you simply dismiss them because you dont "want" to do that. Well im sorry, but when you have reached the point where you openly admit that playing the game is not fun for you anymore, it really is time to move on.
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So it is bad that the game gives you so little to do you actually have time to play alts? Would you rather there be to much to do on one character that you can't play an alt? And then complain about that? The time gating really isn't that bad. Most of the stuff it is unlocking you can't afford anyways do to limited resources. And if it wasn't time gated Blizzard would just have it behind ridiculous grinds to slow it down. And then you would be complaining about the grind.
An alt can catch up to the renown cap relatively quickly. And then you just have to work on getting Anima to upgrade or buy cosmetics. As for the Jailer being underwhelming they are taking the same approach they did for WotLK. Have him show up and be a part of the story which makes it have a little less dramatic appeal because you've seen them at several times and not much has come of it. But over all the Jailer is no better or worse then any other villain in the history of the game.
There are a few places that could use a flight path added but it really isn't that bad. You can still finish a lot before your hearth cool down is up. You also can't complain about having to grind stuff and travel if you are against time gating. Because that is the alternative you get. It sounds like the game just isn't for you so you are looking for excuses to justify that opinion rather then to offer anything compelling.
"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
Just close this shit show of a thread topic already.
You should know better than anybody that "I don't like the game, convince me to like it," threads are pretty boring. They barely qualify as discussion topics as you're just baiting people who disagree with your list of opinions into "proving" them wrong. To cap the thread off with a threat to people who correctly advise you not to play a game you clearly have issues with is just adding fuel to the flames. I'll say this: Your criticisms are valid but they're valid only to you and a handful of players who will likely agree with some of your points.
Personally, I feel like SL is the perfect balance between WoD and Legion that I've wanted to see in the game for a very long time. It's not perfect (no WoW expansion has been) but it checks all the boxes I'm looking for in a MMO.
Worse then WoD? well then ur opinion is already invalid.
This expansion is pretty good so far, it has alot of nice new stuff and countered alot of issues like leveling.
As no gear u have to struggle through zones, how people always wanted (Instead of pulling 10 mobs at once)
And Torghast is just a new feature u can put urself into.
Flight whistle is more of a 'I want to move fast cause im lazy'
Legendaries are called legendaries for a reason and not 'Free Item here'
Stop using the word "Worst i have ever seen in this game" cause you obvious never played this game properly then.
1. Haven't seen this as a problem, but then again I rarely die in the open world and, when I do, it's usually because I was trying to climb something I shouldn't and fell off the world (I have a bad habit of that sorta thing). Maybe a couple more in weird nooks would help. /shrug
2. The Jailer is far from useless so far, seeing as how it was his machinations that caused anima drought, the fallen, the deal with Denathrius, you just have to pay attention. It is rather boring, I'll give you that, but he's not useless. Not yet, anyway. It's early, so let's see how it unfolds and how he becomes a cuck for Sylvanas' trickery. (I have a theory he's thinking he's using her but it's her using him and he will be irrelevant soon enough bc they love Sylvy).
3. I feel they are appropriate for their settings. Fields of Elysium for the "pleasant" angel afterlife, abominations and such for the warring afterlife. They all fit, so to each their own. I'm not offended or blown away by them.
4. The Maw is fine; it's hell. The Eye mechanic is great because it means you don't HAVE to farm your balls off every day. Just go for 15-20 minutes and you are done, ready to use your Ve'nari hearth and go away. Also, it's not required for anything other than a handful of souls (hint: the respawn time on the rock thigs that hold them spawn fast, so go down the hill on the right where there's two of them and just go back and forth, done in 2-3 minutes).
5. Torghast is fun, just play on harder levels with a group. Solo, yeah, it's boring just like every other piece of solo content. With friends and everyone getting crazy powers, it gets pretty wild and entertaining. It's a nice "something else" to do when you get burned out on keys and such.
6. Legendaries at 50k are very obtainable. You get 1.5-2k from the daily calling alone, not to mention any vendor stuff. Don't do professions? Don't have any other income? at 50k you get a leggo in less than a month. It's the effort you put in, and it's a far cry better than any other legendary system they've ever had. If you start with base leggo items, they can also come cheaper, all depending on server cluster obv, but if you aren't pushing higher raids/keys, the 190/210 range would probably serve you well. Also, if you are a class that can tank or heal, watch for heroic bonuses. The bag has 900g in it each time plus some augments, on top of loot/vendor trash from the run. Depending on how you farm gold, could be an option /shrug
7. Flight whistle would be nice, but it's not that bad. A 30 second mount run to the next quest/fp isn't that bad. You can also use zone travel points (if it's your home), there's toys (hearty dragon plume) that can help move around. There's options to use around whistle, but yeah, that'd be nice.
8. Timegating for the story I think is fine because there are rewards tied to the story which would have thrown off progression balance pretty badly for those who play 16 hours a day and chug through it in a few days versus those who only play maybe a couple hours a day. I'm okay with timegating when it has power implications. Remove power implications from the main campaign, then give it all at once or pace it, doesn't matter. Personally I prefer the timegating because otherwise I might end up playing too long and go to bed too late. I'm too old for all nighters with work in the morning lol.
You only need to buy the base once unless you want to upgrade it each step of the way which is not efficient. Just use the 190 base and then skip straight to the 235 once you get enough soul ash.
However I can pretty much agree with most of the things on your list. I enjoy the raid, mythic+, and PVP so I just pretty much ignore everything else. I got my 235 legendary so I'm just not dong torghast anymore. I got the stimulus check so why care about doing dailies to pay for my sub? I'm not going to do the Maw since I don't enjoy it for a couple of gem sockets so I don't do it. I can't bother going around the zones without flying/flight whistle so I don't. I'm glad Blizzard let us play the game how we want without feeling required to do stuff we don't want to do. I quit BFA from the azerite gear and other nonsense requiring world quest and island farming.
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1. While I agree I also think its great. There should be some value to death especially in the afterlife haha. You hardly die in this current build of the game outside of warmode.
2.The story was fantastic and brought in a ton of players from different covenants to a good end. Think they add a great early intro and provide some interesting premises to look forward to. No spoilers but some old enemies seem to be very much alive and well in the afterlife. Suspect some very cool things for the games future as they unveil jailers end game plan.
3. I don't know a single person who isn't in love with the zones / music. Think each of these zones while not my favorites perhaps each hold their own at the top of the lists immediately. Plenty to explore, very thematic, great tie ins / Easter eggs.
4. Maw sucks ass, but that's the point of it all. Its much to be a shitty thing and slowly become something you can just overcome with ease as you get Sire rings, Venari rep, skill, and mount. It is ...Hell after all.
5. Torghast floor 3 is for toddlers. Floor 6-8 (assuming we are talking twisted corridor and not the little kid starter 6's) is where challenges come into play. This took me a 217 Ilvl DH 8-10 ish hours to complete from 1-8. Failed 2 runs. Def. fun aspect but would like to see more implemented to mix it up. More powers, more mob variety, more Diablo esk.
6. Legendries are the best spot they have been since their first iteration of everyone gets one. They are insanely cheap, and have longevity aspect in high crafting. A cloak 190 lego might cost you like 2k-5k for christ sake. 235s ranging from 20-300 on slot. I wouldnt be worried about this at all. No idea where you get this ill never get one mentality.
7. Agreed....big time.
8. The time gate is rough, but I think it adds some steady pace to progression that allows for big grinders to get ahead and be happy, and the little man some steady progress with ease. I would argue this is one of the better pacing I've seen. Very much so reminds me of gearing in classic almost. A lot slower, more meaningful, good for the game.
I think you need to take a look at your comments and be wondering if the expansion exclusive features really fit what you are looking for in a game. No shame in falling out of an expansion that doesn't suit your needs. Curious though what feedback you want people who agree with you to give ? Adding more graveyards, flight whistle, free legendaries, removing all locks, and need to enter the maw seems like a big ask. Most of these are the very casual self paced activities of the game too that make up the core part of its design. I doubt any of these things change in the short term. If your complaints were geared at Raid / M+ / PvP id be more inclined to come up with solutions. The core systems being your major button issues though tend to put me in the mindset you may want to seek another outlet until next patch at a minimum.
Now I'm positive that your post isn't serious. You say you don't raid because you don't have gear, you don't want to put in the small effort to be geared because you "can't find mature adults". Get off your high horse, no mature guild is going to take you and carry you when you're not even willing to put in a small amount of work to show you even want to play with them. It's not like "finding a needle in a haystack" there's hundreds of thousands of guilds, thousands of which have been successful for several years, you're ego is just so inflated that you think you're better than them and you feel like you shouldn't have to put in any effort. So either shut up, don't make posts like this, and quit the game or put in the effort and show people that you give a fuck, because why should anyone give a fuck about you when you're not even giving a fuck about your own character.
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He/she/they has been constructive, just because you don't like what he/she/they has to say doesn't mean it isn't constructive. You're just being a salty individual who doesn't want to put in any effort to the game and then you complain about it.
This thread didn't start out great, and seems to have designed as a stealth "I Quit" blog-type thread that is unlikely to produce much in the way of constructive discussion or debate. Closing this.
"We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead