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  1. #181
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    The sign said it's Westview. The sign that's outside of whatever's going on.

    Everyone inside says it's Eastview.



    Triggered by Wanda, somehow. But not through the use of her powers, unlike when she ejected Rambeau. That's my point; it isn't just Wanda that's causing all this. She, or someone else, might be using something like the Framework AI to rebuild Vision, either deliberately or Wanda may be using it for that instinctively. And what we've seen goes way beyond the Framework's capacity; it could do the sitcom stuff, but it didn't affect the real world, it all occurred in your head. And whatever's affecting the world has a different affect than Wanda does, when she uses her powers.
    It's like you're not even watching.

  2. #182
    Quote Originally Posted by Nerraw View Post
    Is he though? Or is it just an imprint? We did see his "dead self" last episode, suggesting that his current personality is simply painted on top of his remains.
    I think that's what's underlying a lot of Wandas decisions There's a big question about whether Vision (and now her children) can even survive outside of the Hex. She clearly doesn't seem to think so, which is why she's playing along there where she can be happy.

    Interesting that we have two different "bads" growing now -

    Director Hayward is clearly on a completely different page than everyone else. There's also big questions on what was happening to Visions body when it was recovered. It seemed pretty clear that there were some experiments going on.

    It seems another force created the Hex in the first place, and Wandas grief has been driving it. We have no idea who created it or what control they have - It seems Pietros "recast" return (jaw dropped) is down to whatever this player is too, and not Wanda, so they must have pretty insane level powers to be building this reality and crossing people over between alternate universes.
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  3. #183
    Quote Originally Posted by rogueMatthias View Post
    It seems another force created the Hex in the first place, and Wandas grief has been driving it. We have no idea who created it or what control they have - It seems Pietros "recast" return (jaw dropped) is down to whatever this player is too, and not Wanda, so they must have pretty insane level powers to be building this reality and crossing people over between alternate universes.

    I wouldn't have agreed with that originally - but it does seem like the blue wall was being 'warped' by Wanda - as if it existed and she's "taking control over it" - well, over anything except the kids. That, along with the lines of "I don't even know how this started," says she came into it, got sucked in, and then it activated something (LATENT MUTANT GENES LOL) that's resulting in this control.

  4. #184
    Quote Originally Posted by rogueMatthias View Post
    SNIP...... so they must have pretty insane level powers to be building this reality and crossing people over between alternate universes.
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    I'm hoping for MOJO.
    Crazy ass reality that he is filming and scheming to use for universal ratings and it would be a great hook to bring in mutants (x-men) given his past with them.
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  5. #185
    Quote Originally Posted by quras View Post
    I'm hoping for MOJO.
    Crazy ass reality that he is filming and scheming to use for universal ratings and it would be a great hook to bring in mutants (x-men) given his past with them.
    The TV Sitcom part of this makes Mojo so much more plausible. The twins are the issue (concerning their Comic birth situation); maybe Mojo will be connected with Mephisto (assuming they want to keep Mephisto tied to the twins)

  6. #186
    I gotta admit I did not see that cameo coming. Probably should have considering what we know about the next Spider-Man movie though.

  7. #187
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    I gotta admit I did not see that cameo coming. Probably should have considering what we know about the next Spider-Man movie though.
    not gonna lie; I was a bit worried about how the MCU would go now that the Infinity Saga has ended. I am both curious and excited after watching WandaVision

  8. #188
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    I gotta admit I did not see that cameo coming. Probably should have considering what we know about the next Spider-Man movie though.
    Yeah I was expecting Pietro to show up, as they'd been dropping lots leading to it, but then having a canonically different Pietro show up blew my mind a bit. I was even wondering if it was just a racasing until Darcy questioned if he was racast too. It raises so many questions.
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  9. #189
    Quote Originally Posted by rogueMatthias View Post
    Yeah I was expecting Pietro to show up, as they'd been dropping lots leading to it, but then having a canonically different Pietro show up blew my mind a bit. I was even wondering if it was just a racasing until Darcy questioned if he was racast too. It raises so many questions.
    Yeah, like was JJJ the first cross universe person we saw? FFH takes place after Wandavision in the timeline, so it’s entire possible. Dare I say... probable?

  10. #190
    Quote Originally Posted by kiramon View Post
    The TV Sitcom part of this makes Mojo so much more plausible. The twins are the issue (concerning their Comic birth situation); maybe Mojo will be connected with Mephisto (assuming they want to keep Mephisto tied to the twins)
    I do hope it's not mephisto. I know he played a major part in the comics for that storyline but to me "the Devil" being the bad guy is kind of to easy.
    High Evolutionary is too obscure and mr. sinister might could work given some hints of him in on of the x-men movies But MOJO (while also obscure) could tie a lot of people together with an alternate reality TV show and and his love of the X-men for ratings. Spiral would be another awesome spellcaster as mojos sidekick.

    Maybe his endgame show was a big hit and he wants another chart topper. Some multiverse reality show in his mojoverse.
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  11. #191
    Quote Originally Posted by quras View Post
    I do hope it's not mephisto. I know he played a major part in the comics for that storyline but to me "the Devil" being the bad guy is kind of to easy.
    High Evolutionary is too obscure and mr. sinister might could work given some hints of him in on of the x-men movies But MOJO (while also obscure) could tie a lot of people together with an alternate reality TV show and and his love of the X-men for ratings. Spiral would be another awesome spellcaster as mojos sidekick.

    Maybe his endgame show was a big hit and he wants another chart topper. Some multiverse reality show in his mojoverse.
    I’d be shocked if Mephisto isn’t involved.

  12. #192
    Quote Originally Posted by quras View Post
    I do hope it's not mephisto. I know he played a major part in the comics for that storyline but to me "the Devil" being the bad guy is kind of to easy.
    High Evolutionary is too obscure and mr. sinister might could work given some hints of him in on of the x-men movies But MOJO (while also obscure) could tie a lot of people together with an alternate reality TV show and and his love of the X-men for ratings. Spiral would be another awesome spellcaster as mojos sidekick.

    Maybe his endgame show was a big hit and he wants another chart topper. Some multiverse reality show in his mojoverse.
    Mojo is a potential. Because of the entire reality-warped TV format then having some entitiy that had set up it up to be an actual show for some kind of audience would be consistant with the show.

    I feel Mephisto would just be too out there for the rest of the series. IF they'd been dropping demons or other hell-like twists into the show, of if he'd been established as a character already then maaaaybeee... They're trying to ground everything that's happening in science though so if it ended with "Oh here's the actual devil himself who's appeared on earth just to fuck with Wanda and make a TV Sitcom" it would just be too insane for the casual viewer.
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  13. #193
    Quote Originally Posted by rogueMatthias View Post
    Mojo is a potential. Because of the entire reality-warped TV format then having some entitiy that had set up it up to be an actual show for some kind of audience would be consistant with the show.

    I feel Mephisto would just be too out there for the rest of the series. IF they'd been dropping demons or other hell-like twists into the show, of if he'd been established as a character already then maaaaybeee... They're trying to ground everything that's happening in science though so if it ended with "Oh here's the actual devil himself who's appeared on earth just to fuck with Wanda and make a TV Sitcom" it would just be too insane for the casual viewer.
    Mephisto isn’t the actual devil.

  14. #194
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Mephisto isn’t the actual devil.
    WEELLLL he isn't but then he is also the biblical "devil" that many stories were based on, certainly the partner of Lilith at the garden of Eden was him. That's the bible devil stories that weren't based on Azazel anyway.. or Samuel. Either way my point stands that it would be too mad a twist to have to be explaining all of this madness at the end of a series if there's been nothing hinting at devils or demons or similar throughout the whole show.
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  15. #195
    Quote Originally Posted by rogueMatthias View Post
    WEELLLL he isn't but then he is also the biblical "devil" that many stories were based on, certainly the partner of Lilith at the garden of Eden was him. That's the bible devil stories that weren't based on Azazel anyway.. or Samuel. Either way my point stands that it would be too mad a twist to have to be explaining all of this madness at the end of a series if there's been nothing hinting at devils or demons or similar throughout the whole show.
    There have been hints to “the Devil” though. Outright references from characters (Dottie and Agnes) and subtle hints that, admittedly, could just be coincidences (hexagons, the missing 6’s on time pieces, etc).
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  16. #196
    Quote Originally Posted by rogueMatthias View Post
    WEELLLL he isn't but then he is also the biblical "devil" that many stories were based on, certainly the partner of Lilith at the garden of Eden was him. That's the bible devil stories that weren't based on Azazel anyway.. or Samuel. Either way my point stands that it would be too mad a twist to have to be explaining all of this madness at the end of a series if there's been nothing hinting at devils or demons or similar throughout the whole show.
    I dunno, they just brought in a Pietro from a different universe. Either Mojo or Mephisto would require big explanations in the last few episodes, but Mephisto is the one who had parts of his soul used to create Wanda's kids in the comics. I find it more likely they'll go that route, but time will tell. Either one would make sense in the multiverse sense though. I still really want to know if J. Jonah Jameson is from another universe as well since FFH takes place after Wandavision chronologically.

  17. #197
    After episode 2 I was saying to my friend how strange it was that they put on that show but there were no kids.

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    oh. my. god. Jaw hit the floor. I am shook.

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    Twitter hashtags partially spoiled the episode for me. Read earlier that people have been dumping spoilers all over the place. Sucks that people get a kick out of spoiling stuff for those not looking.

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  20. #200
    The episodes keep getting better.

    Baby Vision gave me giggle fits. Seeing his corpse in pieces was a shocker, as was seeing him getting angry. Surprised at the cameo... I was kinda hoping for Aaron Johnson until I saw the back of the head shot, but this could be interesting. Moar! I want moar!
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