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  1. #1001
    Quote Originally Posted by Berndorf View Post
    Those are different infinity stones I do believe. Vision was created with the mind stone and the one that Wanda first connected with was the power stone(I think). I mean story telling wise I'm not sure it makes a difference but I'm not entirely sure that Vision truly needed the soul stone in order to inhabit a body.
    Nope. Both the mind stone. They got it from the Strucker raid at the beginning of the movie and used it to make vision. Hell, we see it was the mind stone IN Wandavision. Not sure why you’re throwing the soul stone into the mix.

  2. #1002
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post

    Being ripped to pieces isn’t the same as being pulled back in. Especially when said pieces are exploding when they hit the barrier.
    But we can at least agree that there is a force that is pulling towards the hex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    We literally see the pieces exploding on the barrier as they’re sucked back in. It was ripping him to pieces because he was fighting the suction, but I see no evidence he would have survived if it ripped him to pieces and Wanda didn’t expand the barrier.
    I was going to add a ss but apparently D+ blocks using them on the iPad app.

    Either way it looks like you’re right, he never stops being de-digitized until the barrier passes back over him. In my memory the suction ended but on further review the trail is still there, just thinner, and it slows down once he slumps, probably more because the focus of the scene changes than anything.like how a 10 second bomb timer will only go down 2 seconds despite spending 5 seconds of showing other shit happening.
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  4. #1004
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Nope. Both the mind stone. They got it from the Strucker raid at the beginning of the movie and used it to make vision. Hell, we see it was the mind stone IN Wandavision. Not sure why you’re throwing the soul stone into the mix.
    I meant mindstone when I typed soulstone.

  5. #1005
    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    But we can at least agree that there is a force that is pulling towards the hex.
    The hex was pulling part of itself back in because it had a defined boundary. The same magic that made “Vision” also made the hex, and much like Agatha’s basement, it had boundaries. He left the boundary and the hex boundary was doing what it was designed to do by keeping that magic in the boundary. As he was being ripped to pieces they exploded on the boundary and were reabsorbed. There was no indication he would have survived had Wanda not expanded to boundary to stop him from being ripped apart. Crossing back through the boundary repaired Vision and then we got to where we are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProphetFlume View Post
    I was going to add a ss but apparently D+ blocks using them on the iPad app.

    Either way it looks like you’re right, he never stops being de-digitized until the barrier passes back over him. In my memory the suction ended but on further review the trail is still there, just thinner, and it slows down once he slumps, probably more because the focus of the scene changes than anything.like how a 10 second bomb timer will only go down 2 seconds despite spending 5 seconds of showing other shit happening.
    We can even see him being ripped apart as the barrier is expanding to reclaim him. It’s in the background as Darcy is about to cross over.

  6. #1006
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    The hex was pulling part of itself back in because it had a defined boundary. The same magic that made “Vision” also made the hex, and much like Agatha’s basement, it had boundaries. He left the boundary and the hex boundary was doing what it was designed to do by keeping that magic in the boundary. As he was being ripped to pieces they exploded on the boundary and were reabsorbed. There was no indication he would have survived had Wanda not expanded to boundary to stop him from being ripped apart. Crossing back through the boundary repaired Vision and then we got to where we are.
    Well then, I think we are all fundamentally on the same page. I think it's clear to everyone that Vision would have "died" again (three times lucky) out there if Wanda had not expanded the hex.
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  7. #1007
    Quote Originally Posted by ProphetFlume View Post
    Either way it looks like you’re right, he never stops being de-digitized until the barrier passes back over him.
    Watch the scene of him being created, then go back and watch the scene of him being ripped apart.

    He's not being "de-digitized." He's literally being ripped apart. Component pieces are being ripped from his physical body. In one spot you can clear seeing a panel casing being torn off wholesale. It's not even remotely similar to how he was created by Wanda.

  8. #1008
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    I see pieces being ripped off and absorbed by the hex. I didn’t see him reconstituted on the other side until the boundary expanded to where he was.Gonna check what color is ripping him apart. Yep, red magic and the pieces are destroyed and absorbed by the barrier of the hex. No indication he was being pulled in, he was being ripped apart.
    Semantics. Being pulled back into the hex is no different the being pulled and absorbed by the hex. There is no color to the whatever is ripping Vision apart so I doubt you actually checked. The only colors reflect what part of his body is being turned int bits and streams. The yellow I mentioned is from parts of him that sort of disintegrate. It is heard to get a good screenshot since his scenes are brief but I think the one I linked to provides a good enough example with no red. Just yellow/orange from him burning up. The other colors are his flesh/part colors. Grey, red, etc.

    https://imgur.com/a/2fmUgaC
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  9. #1009
    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    Semantics. Being pulled back into the hex is no different the being pulled and absorbed by the hex. There is no color to the whatever is ripping Vision apart so I doubt you actually checked. The only colors reflect what part of his body is being turned int bits and streams. The yellow I mentioned is from parts of him that sort of disintegrate. It is heard to get a good screenshot since his scenes are brief but I think the one I linked to provides a good enough example with no red. Just yellow/orange from him burning up. The other colors are his flesh/part colors. Grey, red, etc.

    https://imgur.com/a/2fmUgaC
    I think we’re all putting too much thought into it, tbh. I think the point of the scene was to show that Vision can’t survive outside the Hex.
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  10. #1010
    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    I wonder, once he passed out, why he didn’t get sucked back in. And iirc, we didn’t see anymore pieces being ripped off of him after that, right?
    They show him entering the barrier and he is still being disintegrated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    I think we’re all putting too much thought into it, tbh. I think the point of the scene was to show that Vision can’t survive outside the Hex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    Semantics. Being pulled back into the hex is no different the being pulled and absorbed by the hex. There is no color to the whatever is ripping Vision apart so I doubt you actually checked. The only colors reflect what part of his body is being turned int bits and streams. The yellow I mentioned is from parts of him that sort of disintegrate. It is heard to get a good screenshot since his scenes are brief but I think the one I linked to provides a good enough example with no red. Just yellow/orange from him burning up. The other colors are his flesh/part colors. Grey, red, etc.

    https://imgur.com/a/2fmUgaC
    The magic being reabsorbed vs him being pulled in: the first implies destruction, the second does not.

  13. #1013
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    The magic being reabsorbed vs him being pulled in: the first implies destruction, the second does not.
    It is a semantics issue. In order to absorb him it first has to pull him into the outside wall of the hex. In all scenarios he was crumbling to pieces and being pulled back into the Hex. Either way he was being killed. There isn't enough to say what was happening to his energy when it hit the hex. Just like we can't say if it was a bad actor causing him to disintegrate or if it was simply being outside of the Hex.

    Since he seems more like a Soul and what we know of from the final scene of episode 8 I would guess he needs a host to survive. But since it was also revealed that Agnes/Agatha was manipulating stuff it is also possible she was doing it so Vision wouldn't ruin her plans. Her presence where Vision was could be a red herring. But since we know she was herself she didn't "take a wrong turn".
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    Would be crazy if the silver vision is actually now Ultron.

  15. #1015
    Quote Originally Posted by tommyhil622 View Post
    Would be crazy if the silver vision is actually now Ultron.
    That's my worry. I don't think it is but without whatever humanized vision what we have left is essentially Ultron.

  16. #1016
    Quote Originally Posted by Gasparde View Post

    And then there's Larson. Like, maybe it's just me, but while I've heard her name before once or twice... I'm not sure she's been considered as a household name before. Like, yea, she's had some movies under her belt, but it's not like she was carrying those all by herself - totally different league compared to Blunt, but then again maybe not that different from Krasinski (although I can remember him from actually solid movies instead of only remembering Larson from noname roles in stuff like 21 Jump Street or random Amy Schumer movies).
    I know it's a bit later to reply... but as far as I know... Brie already had an oscar for her role in "Room". And man... all respect for her because of that role.

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    Keep talking about the show...

    Here (next week, lolz) comes the last episode...

    Will all answers gonna be answered?
    All easters eggs that could be made, will be made?

    What will happens after?

    Wanda's Vision will incarnate on his old body?
    Agness will be one-time villain? (she is villain guys... we only need to know her reasons)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    That's my worry. I don't think it is but without whatever humanized vision what we have left is essentially Ultron.
    AoU is one of their worst and forgettable movies (imo). I hope they don't bring him back.

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  18. #1018
    I'd be totally fine with Ultron coming back, he is one of the better Marvel villains though most of that credit goes to Spader's performance.

  19. #1019
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Maybe not to the same degree, but let's recall that before he was in Iron Man, after his recovery, he was in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and Zodiac, both strong movies with solid critical reviews, and Tropic Thunder, which not only did really well but got memed beyond belief. And got Downey a nomination for an Academy Award.

    His career was not remotely "dead" at the time he took on Iron Man.
    It wasn't "dead" but there was still a lot of trepidation involved in hiring an actor with such a prominent history of drug and alcohol abuse.

    No one ever doubted that RDJ was a talented actor. They only doubted that he could stay sober long enough to kick off a Cinematic Universe.
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  20. #1020
    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    AoU is one of their worst and forgettable movies (imo). I hope they don't bring him back.
    Well the issue with the movie isn't really Ultron itself (Spader performance was great). Plus once every episode of Wandavision ends with suggesting you watch AoU.

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