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  1. #1041
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    Quote Originally Posted by ohwell View Post
    While I fully believe it was Vision, when did he ever get the chance to buy it? They had only really talked about the settling down briefly in IW and then bam.
    Same time he had an official will made and notarized
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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    Steve had time to grow a beard, I'm sure Vision could have found a few moments to buy an unused plot of land.
    Steve's a Super Soldier

    You don't know how long it would take him to grow a beard. Could be he just wakes up like that every morning and he just hadn't gotten around to shaving yet :P.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    He would have stayed an Indy film darling... but he would never have been a Big Box Office Star without Iron Man. And Marvel took a lot of convincing to give him that shot.
    This is the kind of take that suggests Mark Ruffalo and Brie Larson weren't successful actors before they became Hulk and Captain Marvel. They most certainly were - as was RDJ. They were all three movie stars.

    Outside of the Chris's, I don't think any of the main Avengers cast had their best movies in the MCU. And all of them had their best movies before their roles in the MCU. Hell, Don Cheadle was in a music video that I think had more importance than anything he's done in the MCU, and Hotel Rwanda is a legitimately great movie, but he's probably made more money being Rhodey than anything else in his career.

  4. #1044
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    Didn't vision have full access to the Internet, plus all of Stark's knowledge. For someone like Vision something like buying land I don't think is a difficult task.
    Yet he buys a run down plot in bumfuck New Jersey? Did he not check property values and the condition of the neighborhood? Who buys land sight unseen? Clearly this was planted by the devil (Mephisto) /s

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    Quote Originally Posted by eschatological View Post
    This is the kind of take that suggests Mark Ruffalo and Brie Larson weren't successful actors before they became Hulk and Captain Marvel. They most certainly were - as was RDJ. They were all three movie stars.
    I just chalk all this up to typical mmo-c pedantic bickering. What does RDJ’s acting career have to do with WandaVision?

  5. #1045
    Quote Originally Posted by SavoirFaire View Post
    Yet he buys a run down plot in bumfuck New Jersey? Did he not check property values and the condition of the neighborhood? Who buys land sight unseen? Clearly this was planted by the devil (Mephisto) /s

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    I just chalk all this up to typical mmo-c pedantic bickering. What does RDJ’s acting career have to do with WandaVision?
    People are talking about RDJ's cost for future work in comparison to some fan theories about possible Fantastic 4 casting of John Krasinski and Emily Blunt, his wife, as if it would be prohibitive (and actors like Ruffalo/Larson/RDJ) weren't earning similar numbers before the MCU themselves.

    I also thought Westview was a weird pick. Surely Vision could get some cash from Stark industries for a nice upscale place on the Upper East Side, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eschatological View Post
    I also thought Westview was a weird pick. Surely Vision could get some cash from Stark industries for a nice upscale place on the Upper East Side, right?
    It is similar to the location they lived in the comics and it is clearly that they are going for a "sitcom town" type of feel rather then simply a great place to live. The sitcom thing means a lot to Wanda and as we saw what led her and Vision to first bond.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eschatological View Post
    This is the kind of take that suggests Mark Ruffalo and Brie Larson weren't successful actors before they became Hulk and Captain Marvel. They most certainly were - as was RDJ. They were all three movie stars.
    Larson and Ruffalo didn't have substance abuse problems that made them getting cast in marvel films problematic though.

    Marvel didn't want to hire RDJ initially because they thought he was too risky to pin a franchise on. That was the state of his career when he signed on to Iron Man. Ruffalo and Larson were up and comers. RDJ was a cautionary tale.
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    We also don't know what the town looked like before the snap. Remember that this is Westview after more than 5 years of half of everyone missing and only just coming back like a week ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerraw View Post
    We also don't know what the town looked like before the snap. Remember that this is Westview after more than 5 years of half of everyone missing and only just coming back like a week ago.
    That's an interesting point. I'm impressed by how much nuance they've given to that 5 years. The reveal of aliens came and went after Avengers, no big change to the world, and I expected the same for this.
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  10. #1050
    I know this is kind of out of the left field, but my thoughts about Agatha being possessed and that entity being able to suck up powers and life, like it did in her flashback, made me think about Thor's words in Age of Ultron, about the 'whirlpool that sucks in all life and at it's center... it's that', the mindstone. I know it was meant to be about Ultron and Infinity War and everything, but the situation in Wandavision seems awfully fitting. Maybe because the magic around Wanda looked so much like a whirlpool when she created the Hex and now that Agatha know how to make that magic erupt out of Wanda, she/the entity possessing her might try to snack on yo magic enough that it could destroy the universe and the only thing stopping that might be if Vision (her created Vision) is there to calm Wanda down and stabilize her enough that she doesn't feel anough grief to 'erupt'. Or to help her stop it.

    I don't know, it just never seemed so fitting for Ultron or even Infinity War, because none of that was about any whirlpool sucking up life ^^

  11. #1051
    Quote Originally Posted by formerShandalay View Post
    Agatha being possessed and that entity being able to suck up powers and life, like it did in her flashback
    Is she possessed? I figured she was practicing forbidden magic and was just trying to save her skin (or avoiding having to fight a whole bunch of people) by acting innocent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    Is she possessed? I figured she was practicing forbidden magic and was just trying to save her skin (or avoiding having to fight a whole bunch of people) by acting innocent.
    It could go either way. She does make reference to a power she just wants to learn to control before the death of her coven. It could have been a lie or it could be she is connected to a darker power. Her magic did seem a little uncontrolled when tied to the stake but nothing was clearly indicated.

    I just wish there would be a Season 2 but all of these Marvel shows seem to be one season. But maybe we could get a New Salem spinoff to further cover magic from all of this. They could always do a season 2 of this show by just having normal sitcom hi-jinks as well I guess. Nothing overly connected to the greater MCU but still fun/interesting to watch.
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  13. #1053
    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    Is she possessed? I figured she was practicing forbidden magic and was just trying to save her skin by acting innocent.
    I don't know if she's actually possessed, it just seemed like that to me from how her failed execution played out. If she had access to that power while they were dragging her to the stake, they'd never have gotten her there. She first pleads with them and after her mother shouts at her, her attitude and voice change a little and she 'confesses', then she starts pleading again, almost warningly saying she can't control it, then she lets them almost burn her alive with their magic until she suddenly stands upright and starts emanating that purple magic, draining them. As that happens she looks around seemingly surprised, which is unneccessary as a lie, because any lie is meaningless at this point.
    Had she been in full control of that power, she could have simply killed them all before being half burned and spared herself quite a bad experience.

    With Wanda she talks about how she had to practice and work so long to even master the smallest spells and how she couldn't even comprehend how Wanda could have cast so many spells all at once, which after her display at Salem is either simply another lie or whoever was casting that life draining spell doesn't share their powers usually.

    Her powers also seem to change color, from a light purple to a purple mixed with thick black smoke.

    At the end of the episode, she finally knows what Wanda is and seems almost shocked, but she still lures her out of the basement, where she'd have full control and Wanda couldn't do anything, onto the streets, even aggravating Wanda (with the kids) as if she was trying to provoke her into using her powers. I don't think even a very powerhungry witch would do that at this point, so I think she has been overtaken by her 'entity' again, who wants to snack on Wanda's powers while she is using them against Agatha.

    So, that's why I think she's possessed, but of course that's just a theory.

  14. #1054
    Quote Originally Posted by ProphetFlume View Post
    That's an interesting point. I'm impressed by how much nuance they've given to that 5 years. The reveal of aliens came and went after Avengers, no big change to the world, and I expected the same for this.
    My favorite example of this is Stan Lee’s cameo in Infinity War.

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    I just read through 9 pages of people swearing at each other over the definitional differences between the words "crumbling" and "falling apart" and also between "being sucked in" or "pulled back". That was mind-numbing.

    I have a question: the cop outside Westview tells Woo and Monica that Westview doesn't exist, and that he comes from Eastview. We all assume that means Wanda created the entire town, but now we know Westview existed in reality before Wanda even knew about it and that Vision supposedly bought a plot of land there, and Wanda just manipulated it. Is there any explanation for this or are we just supposed to assume the cop was being an asshole to two federal agents?

  16. #1056
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Brie Larson won the Oscar for carrying a movie mostly by herself right before she was officially cast as Captain Marvel...
    Larson's only notable role that stuck with me before Captain Marvel was her short stint on Community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    Mentor Agnes - Agnes believes that Wanda needs to learn how to properly harness her magic, especially being a witch with a ton of potential. She will teach Wanda a lot more about her powers..
    Like she did in the comics at one point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobody Worth Knowing View Post
    Agatha only said she possessed him (and it's "faux," by the way, not "fox"). I doubt she has the power to give someone a superpower, let alone superspeed, so it very well could be the X-Men Quicksilver still; she just twisted his mind in her favor and/or implanted false memory of that world's Piotr. Do note that faux can also mean "not genuine" not simply "fake," which fits here; he isn't the genuine Piotr Wanda knew, but that doesn't mean he's not a Piotr/Peter.
    No. She said "fake Pietro, Fietro."

  17. #1057
    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    Steve had time to grow a beard, I'm sure Vision could have found a few moments to buy an unused plot of land.
    He grew the beard between CW and IW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nzx View Post
    I just read through 9 pages of people swearing at each other over the definitional differences between the words "crumbling" and "falling apart" and also between "being sucked in" or "pulled back". That was mind-numbing.

    I have a question: the cop outside Westview tells Woo and Monica that Westview doesn't exist, and that he comes from Eastview. We all assume that means Wanda created the entire town, but now we know Westview existed in reality before Wanda even knew about it and that Vision supposedly bought a plot of land there, and Wanda just manipulated it. Is there any explanation for this or are we just supposed to assume the cop was being an asshole to two federal agents?
    I'm assuming they were trying to keep people out basically. I mean I'm sure they quickly found out before anyone else if they lived in a nearby town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nzx View Post
    I have a question: the cop outside Westview tells Woo and Monica that Westview doesn't exist, and that he comes from Eastview. We all assume that means Wanda created the entire town, but now we know Westview existed in reality before Wanda even knew about it and that Vision supposedly bought a plot of land there, and Wanda just manipulated it. Is there any explanation for this or are we just supposed to assume the cop was being an asshole to two federal agents?
    It is clear that that town existed since there is a exit sign for it on the Freeway when Monica arrives. It is just that the Hex, Wanda, Agatha, or something has erased the existence of the town. Jimmy explains this when he tells Monica why he called her in. The friends, relatives, associates etc of his witness have never actually heard of the guy. So whatever hid it was only local to the area and those that lived nearby.

    Anyone that wasn't connected to a person in-town or nearby seems to still have knowledge of the town. This includes computers/data as well.
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    When the memory erasure of people was mentioned and I think it was Monica who asked woo why they could remember the person others couldn’t I thought it was caused by something that didn’t affect blipped people. But that plot was so long ago it didn’t seem to matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nzx View Post
    I have a question: the cop outside Westview tells Woo and Monica that Westview doesn't exist, and that he comes from Eastview. We all assume that means Wanda created the entire town, but now we know Westview existed in reality before Wanda even knew about it and that Vision supposedly bought a plot of land there, and Wanda just manipulated it. Is there any explanation for this or are we just supposed to assume the cop was being an asshole to two federal agents?
    I always took it that their memory of it was altered and erased, that’s why woo had Monica stand where she did when she talked to the cops, with the sign juxtaposed right behind them, that they couldn’t remember the town or even register the remnants of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProphetFlume View Post
    When the memory erasure of people was mentioned and I think it was Monica who asked woo why they could remember the person others couldn’t I thought it was caused by something that didn’t affect blipped people. But that plot was so long ago it didn’t seem to matter.
    That presupposes that Woo was blipped. We don’t really know if he was or wasn’t, but it’d be weird if he came back and was immediately working with a person in witness protection.

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