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  1. #261
    Quote Originally Posted by Jainzar View Post
    Currently I'm sitting at 214 ilvl, having cleared Castle Nathria 10/10 on heroic.

    All I am doing right now is logging in once a week, doing a +14 key, and logging off. That's it. There's literally nothing else to do that is worth my time when it comes to gearing.

    Clearing Nathria 10/10 to maybe get something that is replaced anyway by something from the chest eventually? Not worth it. At all. Loot drops are so rare that I got one single item that was useful in over 40 heroic boss kills.

    Is this really what Blizzard wants? For people to log in once a week?
    I mean, the core element of any RPG is character progression. If you have reached your goal and don't want to push further content then congratulations you have beaten the game.

    There's plenty of content left to do, you just don't want to do it. That's a you problem. So yes, you've done exactly what blizzard intended. You pushed for your goals,met them, and ended up with a decent ilvl regardless of crap raid drops so obviously you were playing other aspects of the game. You won. Blizzard won. See you next patch.

  2. #262
    Quote Originally Posted by Jainzar View Post
    Currently I'm sitting at 214 ilvl, having cleared Castle Nathria 10/10 on heroic.

    All I am doing right now is logging in once a week, doing a +14 key, and logging off. That's it. There's literally nothing else to do that is worth my time when it comes to gearing.

    Clearing Nathria 10/10 to maybe get something that is replaced anyway by something from the chest eventually? Not worth it. At all. Loot drops are so rare that I got one single item that was useful in over 40 heroic boss kills.

    Is this really what Blizzard wants? For people to log in once a week?
    I am about to this same Point Honestly, I am currently having a lot of fun with PVP, but now that I can almost get an entire set of 197 Gear from just doing story missions it is very hard to even waste time in Normal raids and M+ is just not fun when as a tank all you do is run away and kit... Not fun for me. Once I am at 200 ish Ilvl I can basically do any content I care about in the game at the level I care about . But truth be told I love this about it I am ready to step into the next raid/ patch and can do some PVP from time to time and then Log off for a day or 3 or even longer and step back in after that. I miss being able to be "Done" with the content I loved being BIS geared back in BC-CATA and just being able to play other games.

  3. #263
    Quote Originally Posted by kamuimac View Post
    Ion should be fired for this disaster of expansion
    2016: Legion sells 3.3M copies in 24 hours
    2017: Ion should be fired for this disaster of expansion, playerbase is leaving
    2018: BfA sells 3.4M in 24 hours
    2019: Ion should be fired for this disaster of expansion, playerbase is leaving
    2020: SL sells 3.7M in 24 hours
    2021: Ion should be fired for this disaster of expansion, playerbase is leaving...

  4. #264
    Dont think its that bad to be done with gearing if you not aiming for higher difficulty, but i wouldnt be opposed to something like Justice points in pve, similar to Conquest in pvp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    2016: Legion sells 3.3M copies in 24 hours
    2017: Ion should be fired for this disaster of expansion, playerbase is leaving
    2018: BfA sells 3.4M in 24 hours
    2019: Ion should be fired for this disaster of expansion, playerbase is leaving
    2020: SL sells 3.7M in 24 hours
    2021: Ion should be fired for this disaster of expansion, playerbase is leaving...
    By that logic, vanilla D3 was also a resounding success, and as such it was perfect, no major changes were needed... Right?
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    The Jailer's first ever appearance involved chucking him [Baine] off a cliff for being too shit to even qualify as a Maw trash mob.

  6. #266
    Guys the game is to play the game because you like it . Would you like to make it an endless run for paragon levels like Diablo? Even in Diablo the Greater rifts got a cap at lvls.
    With your logic when you get the rank you want in arena you have no reason to play.
    WoW is an endless game you can do everything just check achievement list .
    Last edited by Tarx; 2021-01-19 at 04:26 PM.

  7. #267
    Quote Originally Posted by ClassicPeon View Post
    And you dont use the system unless you use the entire system or?

    Once again your argument seems a little weak.
    “I’m not able to get meaningful gear ”
    Isn’t a valid complaint when you don’t do the activities that give you the meaningful gear

  8. #268
    Quote Originally Posted by Jainzar View Post
    Nah, WoW PvP is not really for me. I've played DAoC extensively in the past, which is an older MMO. Anyone that played DAoC knows that it's incredibly hard to play PvP in another game, because DAoC PvP was just the best system ever.
    lmao best system ever? that shit was clunky af bro

    come on don’t be scared. you may be a sleeper WoW PvP prodigy

  9. #269
    Quote Originally Posted by Spaceboytg View Post
    I've been playing since beta as well and WoW addiction is definitely a thing. There's been times I've been worried I was playing too much to the detriment of RL relationships. That's part of why I'm glad I'm finally peeling back from the game. Once I realized there was really nothing for me in SL after the Covenant campaign was over I've just found it easier and easier not to log in for days at a time. Not even sure I'll log in tomorrow since, really, what is there for me to do? If you can find something to catch your attention it gets easier to pull away. So try some other games!
    I will, ty! its nice to find some support of people going tru the same thing.

  10. #270
    Quote Originally Posted by Jainzar View Post
    Nah, WoW PvP is not really for me. I've played DAoC extensively in the past, which is an older MMO. Anyone that played DAoC knows that it's incredibly hard to play PvP in another game, because DAoC PvP was just the best system ever.
    sounds kinda like you just enjoy complaining? a number of posters have suggested super valid alternate activities... so i guess if your question is "does blizzard really want people who play the game too hard out the gates in a tiny area of focused gameplay to get all the things they could possibly need and then burn out?" yea man. i mean if you dont wanna play the rest of the game sounds like thats the idea. roll an alt and do it again from a new point of view? Or just get on forums and compain about shit and get frustrated at the company for not funneling you even more loot while not asking you to step out of your comfort zone (pvp, mythic, etc)

  11. #271
    Quote Originally Posted by Jainzar View Post
    Currently I'm sitting at 214 ilvl, having cleared Castle Nathria 10/10 on heroic.

    All I am doing right now is logging in once a week, doing a +14 key, and logging off. That's it. There's literally nothing else to do that is worth my time when it comes to gearing.

    Clearing Nathria 10/10 to maybe get something that is replaced anyway by something from the chest eventually? Not worth it. At all. Loot drops are so rare that I got one single item that was useful in over 40 heroic boss kills.

    Is this really what Blizzard wants? For people to log in once a week?
    It's just that point in the mmo when you've obtained max loot. You could either pursue mythic raiding or attempt challenges that don't involving increasing gear. There's a ton of content but if the only thing you want to do is get better gear then you need to find a mythic raiding guild.

    Imo mythic Castle Nathria is still a challenge. There are only 49 (42 horde, 7 alliance) guilds in the world that have been able to clear it and it rewards better gear than heroic. If you logged on once or twice a week with a mythic raiding guild you would be progressing your character for sure and potentially earning a spot on the Hall of Fame board.
    https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/ga...?faction=HORDE

  12. #272
    Good WOW expansions have an endpoint for progression.

    One of the biggest praises of XIV is that it has a definite "stop here if you get bored" line. If you don't have anything you want to do you wait for the patch.

  13. #273
    My sub ended yesterday

    for me at least the problem is that i feel that i only log to farm gear and anything that isn't it is timegated, the WQs are boring and not worth doing, the buildings in covenants are lol also

    Torghast got old real fast, Maw is Maw so... of all things what is to do in the game that is fun or worth doing? Now that the campaign is over not even that we have to do that's diferent and fun

    i appreciate anyone still have fun or have fun doing the same content in ALTs but what's more to do in the game? they even timegated the timegate in the renown starting this week...

    Peace all and the ones still playing have fun if you have but its sad that my list of about 40 people that were playing this expansion none of them are still playing, so no friends also to play

  14. #274
    Quote Originally Posted by Spike` View Post
    My sub ended yesterday

    for me at least the problem is that i feel that i only log to farm gear and anything that isn't it is timegated, the WQs are boring and not worth doing, the buildings in covenants are lol also

    Torghast got old real fast, Maw is Maw so... of all things what is to do in the game that is fun or worth doing? Now that the campaign is over not even that we have to do that's diferent and fun

    i appreciate anyone still have fun or have fun doing the same content in ALTs but what's more to do in the game? they even timegated the timegate in the renown starting this week...

    Peace all and the ones still playing have fun if you have but its sad that my list of about 40 people that were playing this expansion none of them are still playing, so no friends also to play
    It’s been fairly normal for me.

    After the initial 1-2 month rush it’s down to just logging only to raid and do a few mythic+.

    Like virtually all of WoWs existence, after a new patch/expansion bulk content dies out its back to raid/dungeon/PvP.

    If none of that interests you, and you aren’t into collectibles (mounts, pets, achievements) then it’s a natural stopping point.

    And that’s ok.

  15. #275
    sound like you don't really enjoy the game anymore.

    I do Mythic+ just because it's fun and I like playing with my friends on Discord

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    By that logic, vanilla D3 was also a resounding success, and as such it was perfect, no major changes were needed... Right?
    Comparing a single sale point to a constent increase ? That sounded really smart, good job.
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    nazi is not the abbreviation of national socialism....
    When googling 4 letters is asking too much fact-checking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ealyssa View Post
    Comparing a single sale point to a constent increase ? That sounded really smart, good job.
    Missing the forest for the trees, I see. That sounded really smart, good job.
    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dickmann View Post
    The Jailer's first ever appearance involved chucking him [Baine] off a cliff for being too shit to even qualify as a Maw trash mob.

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    OP, you have mastery of one of WoW's game loops. With mastery comes efficiency. Player efficiency in a game rapidly leads to boredom.

    I am also in this spot.

    How in the hell to solve this is a great question. No video game in the history of video games has ever solved it.

  19. #279
    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    2016: Legion sells 3.3M copies in 24 hours
    2017: Ion should be fired for this disaster of expansion, playerbase is leaving
    2018: BfA sells 3.4M in 24 hours
    2019: Ion should be fired for this disaster of expansion, playerbase is leaving
    2020: SL sells 3.7M in 24 hours
    2021: Ion should be fired for this disaster of expansion, playerbase is leaving...
    each of expansions having more and more merch in preorders had nothing to do with it - sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argorwal View Post
    It’s been fairly normal for me.

    After the initial 1-2 month rush it’s down to just logging only to raid and do a few mythic+.

    Like virtually all of WoWs existence, after a new patch/expansion bulk content dies out its back to raid/dungeon/PvP.

    If none of that interests you, and you aren’t into collectibles (mounts, pets, achievements) then it’s a natural stopping point.

    And that’s ok.
    at this point of BfA i had 12 alts on max level and gearing up all of them - having blast in warfronts/emmisaries/m+ - everythign i did was worthwhile because everythign could give me upgrades

    now i have 4 - and gearing 2 - while 2 other i cba to do anything due to them being never being able to catch up with ash and current droprates to "mains" - while "mains" do 1 m+ a week plus 1 does hc CN and then log off since there is nothing to do in game .

    SL is just horrible experience for casual players.

    great job there Ion

  20. #280
    Shadowlands is literally alt heaven. Never has it been easier to level and play alts and gear them effectively.

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