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  1. #121
    I love reading topics like that, cry babies from WoW’s forums xD

    Nobody care that you are not enjoying the game, how many times you log in, that you are leaving, cancelling sub etc.

    N O B O D Y

    Just quit and do something else, this is better than 9gag xD

  2. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by Jainzar View Post
    The amount of fanboys in this thread is astonishing really. Why not just admit that the current gearing system sucks? You really can't get over yourself to admit that?

    There would be a lot of ways to improve the current situation. You could increase ilvl from higher mythic keys, add rewards for completing 2 chest or 3 chest m+ runs, increase drop chance of items in the raid, add a currency system from m+ dungeons which you can use to buy items from a merchant etc. etc.

    The current system is bad. That's a fact. Stop defending it.
    You don't agree with me you are a stupid fanboy you apply the same kind of logic Trump and his goons do but hey you do you.

  3. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by Jainzar View Post
    Currently I'm sitting at 214 ilvl, having cleared Castle Nathria 10/10 on heroic.

    All I am doing right now is logging in once a week, doing a +14 key, and logging off. That's it. There's literally nothing else to do that is worth my time when it comes to gearing.

    Clearing Nathria 10/10 to maybe get something that is replaced anyway by something from the chest eventually? Not worth it. At all. Loot drops are so rare that I got one single item that was useful in over 40 heroic boss kills.

    Is this really what Blizzard wants? For people to log in once a week?
    Honestly it sounds like you don't really enjoy the game if you only care about what is worth doing loot wise.

    Example: I enjoy Torghast quite alot and am still doing it after having my leggo at full power (I only have one worth it for me as enhance).
    Moreso Twisting Corridors is fun!

    Now don't get me wrong I like loot, I like it alot but it's not the primary driver. It enables me to do content easier for sure and it's a reward. But if thats ALL you see then...maybe it's you know, time to take a break.
    "DIE, INSECT!" - words to live by

  4. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by Kumorii View Post
    Last time I thought it wasn't worth it I quit. Once in TBC and once in WotLK, end of Legion and end of Bfa. I suggest anyone who feels it isn't worth it stop wasting money on it.
    right? like with every other service, you dont like it or dont think its worth it? stop using it, i never understood the "i dont think the game is worth my money/time so GAME MUST CHANGE" attitude...

  5. #125
    Love seeing a thread full of replies and ideas on what to do and OP only cherry picks the ones that trash the game with him lol

    Maybe time to take a break

  6. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by Halfaheart View Post
    Love seeing a thread full of replies and ideas on what to do and OP only cherry picks the ones that trash the game with him lol

    Maybe time to take a break
    well he obviously dont want opinions, he wants echo chamber, nothing unusual

  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by Alatie View Post
    You don't agree with me you are a stupid fanboy you apply the same kind of logic Trump and his goons do but hey you do you.
    Cringe. Why inject politics into a World of Warcraft thread about gearing? You people are truly lost.

    On topic, I find it hard to believe OP likes M+. I always found M+ fun and did it for fun to push score with my buddies. The gear was merely oh, that's cool if it dropped WF/TF/Corrupted. If you require a reward for an activity are you even doing that activity because you enjoy it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Adoxe View Post
    If anyone still believes Sylvanas is responsible, you've not been paying attention.

  8. #128
    You do a single 14 key

    That’s your problem
    You can also do the first 3 in mythic as it wouldn’t take longer than a full heroic clear

  9. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by gaymer77 View Post
    Have you done all 4 of the covenant quest lines through all 9 chapters? If not, there's THAT which you can do. The game so far has been told through the eyes of 4 different groups of people.
    You're joking, right? This is a fucking MMO! Why would anyone want to play timegated SOLO content and keep paying a sub for that?

  10. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    Feels like we are making progress here.

    So the problem is that PvP gives to much gear.
    Agreed. Even being unranked PvP is an easy source for 200 ilvl loot and getting a bit of rating to upgrade that is not hard, tho something more people probably are not doing since that requires organised groups.

    Its a result of Blizzard trying to enable PvP'ers to enjoy PvP without having to do PvE (even tho that isn't the case, doing both is better) but not wanting to go back to the days of a PvP only stat making PvP gear useless and PvE and vice versa.

    The problem with Making M+ give gear like PvP currently does is that you run right back into the BfA/Legion problem of raids not being rewarding enough despite being more significantly more effort.

    I don't think there is an easy solution to the current PvE/PvP gearing issue without separating the 2 entirely with a PvP stat (like resilience).

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    The point to playing is to have fun. Why do you play video games?
    And PvP gearing being broken doesn't stop me from having fun doing raids.
    If some other activity being 'better' stops you from having fun doing what you enjoy then you should take time to look at what your doing and why your doing it because your lying to yourself somewhere along the way.
    Giving a piece of loot more at the end of a dungeon wouldnt mean its better than raids though. Right now there is approximately 20% dropchance from normal/hc/mythic dungeons and 40 dropchance from a whole m+ dungeon. That translates into 10% dropchance per boss in mythic+(with an average of 4 bosses per dungeon). Cutting lootdrops in half like that doesnt make sense just because you change difficulty setting. Its not like the gear will rival raid gear anyway. And again this is only if you time the key

  11. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKnubbles View Post
    I feel like raid loot is so bad compared to m+ loot. I'm currently wearing 8 M+ items, 4 raid items, 1 from world boss and my legendary. Sitting at 211.
    I'm 212 with only 1 item being from the raid lol. And I'm 10/10H, 2 M. All of my gear is from vault, mythix+, or pvp (220). Raid loot drops are just really bad.

  12. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenJesus View Post
    I'm 212 with only 1 item being from the raid lol. And I'm 10/10H, 2 M. All of my gear is from vault, mythix+, or pvp (220). Raid loot drops are just really bad.
    i'm 213 with 9 items from the raid. I have 2 items from m+ and the rest is from vault - 0 pvp crap

    oh and we are 9/10

  13. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by Zka View Post
    You're joking, right? This is a fucking MMO! Why would anyone want to play timegated SOLO content and keep paying a sub for that?
    mmm You forgot the second piece, MMORPG. Not defending either of you.

    If you pay a premium you should do whatever it is you want. I mean people play this game to farm gold... think about that. They work a normal job, and in their free time they enjoy making fake money. That is something I'll never understand.

    Personally, i find SL a bit stale - can tell the polish was made in 2020. Pretty much all of it... if I didn't have 2 months of gametime left i would probably just stop playing. Jailer is not big baddy enough for me to stay interested - anything before him/sylvanas/tyrande is likely not interesting as well...

  14. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by holywhiskers View Post
    If you're playing this game for gear as your end goal you're playing the wrong game. Gear is a tool not the purpose.
    Wish I could pin this to every whining thread.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adoxe View Post
    If anyone still believes Sylvanas is responsible, you've not been paying attention.

  15. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by Guilford View Post
    Wish I could pin this to every whining thread.
    Could you guys try putting an argument behind that possibly?

  16. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by Jainzar View Post
    I don't have the time for mythic raiding. And a lot of other people don't, either. I'm mainly a m+ player, but that's just not worth it AT ALL, loot wise.
    How can you have time for heroic raiding, but not for Mythic. Heroic still of not really puggable and a full clear takes many guilds more than one evening. On the other hand its completely possible to even get CE with 2 mythic raid days a week.

  17. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by MrKnubbles View Post
    I feel like raid loot is so bad compared to m+ loot. I'm currently wearing 8 M+ items, 4 raid items, 1 from world boss and my legendary. Sitting at 211.
    1/15 on Raid Drops this week and to date I have only had 1 upgrade out of the vault, minimal 4 items to chose from.

  18. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by ClassicPeon View Post
    Could you guys try putting an argument behind that possibly?
    The argument is simple

    In a game that you use gear as an endpoint yet refuse to push the gear to its endpoint you will have a bad time

    You don’t do mythic even just 3 a week and only 1 m+ dungeon a week means that you aren’t pushing For the gear endpoint

    That’s the argument

  19. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by razorpax View Post
    The argument is simple

    In a game that you use gear as an endpoint yet refuse to push the gear to its endpoint you will have a bad time

    You don’t do mythic even just 3 a week and only 1 m+ dungeon a week means that you aren’t pushing For the gear endpoint

    That’s the argument
    Why do you have to push for the gear endpoint to play for gear?

    Its like playing league because you think ranked is fun but then get told of because you arent looking to reach rank 1

    And does it make it ok to play for gear if you do push for that endpoint?

  20. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by ClassicPeon View Post
    Why do you have to push for the gear endpoint to play for gear?

    Its like playing league because you think ranked is fun but then get told of because you arent looking to reach rank 1

    And does it make it ok to play for gear if you do push for that endpoint?
    League isn't comparable. What?
    Quote Originally Posted by Adoxe View Post
    If anyone still believes Sylvanas is responsible, you've not been paying attention.

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