When did it become so unfashionable to try in this game?

[Thunderbleem]

so insecure that im here bashing on the entire community taking everything everyone is throwing at me and im still here.

thats insecrure is it mate? you might want to think about that.

Yes

/10char

[odamienskii]

It pretty much started in Wrath when they implemented an easy way to players to get into dungeons, then it got worse with the implementation of LFR, and it only got worse and worse with the game becoming more casual in its casino design and more punishing to players who cared and actually tried. The game got so punishing to players that put in the effort that we were having to grind out WQs daily for AP in Legion for pretty significant power advantages, doing old content weekly because of Titanforged chances on items that were significantly better(think Arcanocrystal, Convergence of Fates, or Azshara's Font of Power). The effort to try required as much time as a full time job during Legion and BFA in many cases and a lot of it came down to random chance rather than it being a reward for putting in the work. So that also drove a lot of players away from wanting to try "why try, when you can just get lucky".

wierd that mate, it started in wrath.

introduced lfr
easier ways to get in dungeons
simplified the talent trees
started giving out weekly chest
legendaries rng making the player base skewed in some cases overpowering casuals gimping the better players if they were unlucky
having a gear system that legit plays for you
and now a covenent ability that 1 shots with 1 button

do you know there are people that commented on this thread trying to argue that the game is the exact same and they didnt change anything?
with every simplifying change they made the casuals/crappers moved up and the good players moved down because of it. now its just one big massive muddied water crap pool of average.

they sure as hell did a good job of bringing the community together.

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Yes

/10char

how? enlighten me, you realise im the minority here right?

[vian]

OP thinks of himself as something beyond most players.
How ironic.

[Scottyjscizzle]

so insecure that im here bashing on the entire community taking everything everyone is throwing at me and im still here.

thats insecrure is it mate? you might want to think about that.

Yes, you sound like someone who is trying desperately to build their self-esteem.

[odamienskii]

I would rather understand what your agenda is?
According to this post cancelled and uninstalled, will never install again.

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...1#post52951251



I think we found the problem. Why do you bash and blame the entire community? But that was already to be expected in your first sentence "....now everyone identifies as one."

Generalisations just don't work and a making a sweeping statement that a few million people all identify as casuals is just plain wrong and people will rightfully disagree with you.

my agenda? to pop a few of them falsely inflated dillusion bubbles created by blizzard before i go. basically.

[Seranthor]

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Didn't you already quit?

[odamienskii]

Yes, you sound like someone who is trying desperately to build their self-esteem.

or maybe everything i enjoyed doing was taken away slowly over time and replaced by a crap pool of casuals that did nothing but waste my time so im angry about it.

thats an option too.

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Didn't you already quit?

i did yeah, explains why im here right? nothing better to do, 16 hours a day is a lot of time to replace.

[TheLucky1]

or maybe everything i enjoyed doing was taken away slowly over time and replaced by a crap pool of casuals that did nothing but waste my time so im angry about it.

thats an option too.

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i did yeah, explains why im here right? nothing better to do, 16 hours a day is a lot of time to replace.

You think your (heroic lmao) healing parses are a skill indicator.

You are a casual :^)

[Seranthor]

Fair! i dont tell anyone to play a specific way, im just sick of all the players that tell me how good they are and they they "know tacs" only to fail at the first insanely easy hurdle. nothing but pretenders, its blizzards fault for bringing the casual trashpile so in line with top end content so quickly.

Im legit. i did the graft to learn what i needed to learn very very early, i did the farming and the graft to get what i needed to get to go insanely high where i enjoy the game, where are the other players like me? there are none, only people who pretend they are.

No, you aren't 'legit', you wouldn't be crying like a toddler that you are 'so good' in a game that you 'permanently quit' (which I'm betting is a lie told to garner some form of sympathy).

[odamienskii]

You think your (heroic lmao) healing parses are a skill indicator.

You are a casual :^)

not one bit! just making the point that there are people that think they are skilled with 40percentile parses.

thats my whole point. 90 percentile isnt hard. you will see people on here saying it is!

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No, you aren't 'legit', you wouldn't be crying like a toddler that you are 'so good' in a game that you 'permanently quit' (which I'm betting is a lie told to garner some form of sympathy).

sympathy? where dafuq you get that idea from? do i write like someone that is looking for sympathy, im looking to burst some of them blizzard inflated dillusion bubbles before i go, like i said.

you dont understand what i have written, i will tell you what has happened here, you hated the truths i told so you instantly fabricated a viable (but untrue) putdown to protect yourself. you wrote it out and posted it. gotta get tha protection in early like na thats too much truth BAM REPLIED ahh thats better that will shut him up *troll face* your crap.

[TheLucky1]

not one bit! just making the point that there are people that think they are skilled with 40percentile parses.

thats my whole point. 90 percentile isnt hard. you will see people on here saying it is!

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sympathy? where dafuq you get that idea from? do i write like someone that is looking for sympathy, im looking to burst some of them blizzard inflated dillusion bubbles before i go, like i said.

Yes.

DPS PARSES, because pushing them artificially is hard or straight up impossible on some bosses.
Heal parses on the other hand... lul.

[Thunderbleem]

16 hours a day

Yikes, dude.

[odamienskii]

Yes.

DPS PARSES, because pushing them artificially is hard or straight up impossible on some bosses.
Heal parses on the other hand... lul.

are heal parses not vs other healers also? classic case of heal parses arent the same because i dont play healer syndrome.

did you ever stop for a second to think what would happen if that top ranking healer wasnt in the raid, do you think the kill was a certainty without him? what about the dps? was it a kill without that top ranking dps? which raid is more / less likely to succeed if you removed them both and replaced with an average player.

i await your instant butthurt response.

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Yikes, dude.

yep, thats how commited i was. for nothing, nothing at all. 16hrs a day running keys to practice and learn spells where incap roar /stun more useful, bashing dummies to burn the rotation into my muscle memory and keep it burnt. simming, researching, farming gear, running keys getting a feel for the different stat balance setups. all for m+.....why? what a waste of damn time that was.

was same in bfa but my tolerance level was still a thing so i pugged.

i desperately needed a premade to make use of my commitment.

things like first pack spires, do people not think, holy crap where did that big aoe come from? and want to learn? its the first thing i nticed on my first spires run and my first reaction was, i need to learn what causes that....yesterday. why? why did i bother? just playing with players that ignore it most the time. shadowbolt valley mk2

player 1 "i gOT fIRST sHADOWBOLT vOLLEY"
player 2 "i gOT sECOND sHADOWBOLT vOLLEY"

First cast forgotten so i knockback player 2 panic interupts player 1 overlaps
player 3 oblivious to whats going on
tank has interupt on cd

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

gg guys, well played

"sorry"
thats ok! better luck next time
repeat.........games hard.

[Azerate]

how is this thread not closed/deleted yet

[Nask]

how is this thread not closed/deleted yet

Mods on this site are pathetic when it comes to banning, they treat people with silk gloves for no reason.

[Ragnarohk]

nothing but pretend gamers in this social community now.

It seems you don't know the definition of the word gamer.

Like it or not, people that play Animal Crossing, the Sims and Harvest Moon are also gamers.

Your arrogance is showing.

[TheLucky1]

are heal parses not vs other healers also? classic case of heal parses arent the same because i dont play healer syndrome.

did you ever stop for a second to think what would happen if that top ranking healer wasnt in the raid, do you think the kill was a certainty without him? what about the dps? was it a kill without that top ranking dps? which raid is more / less likely to succeed if you removed them both and replaced with an average player.

i await your instant butthurt response.

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yep, thats how commited i was. for nothing, nothing at all.

Sigh... to quote myself again:

Healer/hps parses are worthless as a skill indicator and you are straight up an idiot for thinking that.
-Mana efficiency is not included in that.
-Encounter awareness/spot healing is not included in that.
-Stupid Overheal is not included in that.

In fact, your logs as healer will suck if you are in a good raid group naturally if you don't push them by standing in shit.

This is the problem with datasets and warcraftlogs, too many people have no fucking idea how to read/interpret them.

There are extremely skilled healers in top guilds who don't have 90%+ heal logs for every fight in heroic, simply because it is not a good indicator for how good you are.
If your Raid team is well off and they take no unecessary damage and use health pots/personals almost perfectly your healing parse will suck, because there is nothing to heal, that doesn't mean you are bad LOL.

Stop throwing around your meaningless warcraftlogs when you don't even understand how to read and interprete them correctly, thanks!

[Ragnarohk]

yep, thats how commited i was. for nothing, nothing at all. 16hrs a day running keys

This is physically and mentally unhealthy. As a medical doctor, I suggest you look for profesional help.

[odamienskii]

Sigh... to quote myself again:



There are extremely skilled healers in top guilds who don't have 90%+ heal logs for every fight in heroic, simply because it is not a good indicator for how good you are.
If your Raid team is well off and they take no unecessary damage and use health pots/personals almost perfectly your healing parse will suck, because there is nothing to heal, that doesn't mean you are bad LOL.

Stop throwing around your meaningless warcraftlogs when you don't even understand how to read and interprete them correctly, thanks!

Buddy you wont fool me, you think im making up that i was in top guilds? top guilds have less healers, kill times are quicker due to the extra dps, that burst healing phase? less fluctuation, 2/3 top healers as opposed to 4/5 in casual guilds, overhealing, you think these godlike healers arent overhealing? i know, lets just waste all that output and let them overheal 75%. no.... they take out a healer and put it into dps.

sigh all you want for extra effect that you are above me but sorry, your a pretender too clearly you need to go back to the logs reading school...mate

[Adamas102]

First off, this whole thing really dose sound like a coy attempt at a humble brag, but we will ignore this for now.

I'm not sure you know what the words "coy" and "humble" mean if you're referring to Mr. "I'm one of the best players in the world" OP...