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  1. #261
    I'm surprised we don't get more (or any) from the actual maw/torghast. I mean I thought all the anima (sources, soul power) was being sent there, and that's why its scarce in the various realms. Figured we'd get piles of anima down there, but all we get is ash and dust and whatever stygia is.

  2. #262
    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    That is dumb comparison. There is no weekly one quest cap on Anima so of course you can't do it once and be all set. Why is it bad that you have to play the game to actually get something?
    No one here is saying its bad to have to play the game. The complaint is about HOW MUCH of the games needs to be played to get something.

    It doesn't need to be trivialised either. Simply doubling the current Anima amounts would go a very long way to making the grind feel better without making everything instant.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

  3. #263
    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    No one here is saying its bad to have to play the game. The complaint is about HOW MUCH of the games needs to be played to get something. It doesn't need to be trivialised either. Simply doubling the current Anima amounts would go a very long way to making the grind feel better without making everything instant.
    Doubling would mean you can get 14k a week easily. That would provide a lot of cosmetics since we have to wait for souls in order do any further upgrades. As this week would allow a person to have 1 level 3 and 3 level 2 upgrades. It takes two weeks with 15 a week in order to get the next upgrade. That would be 28k anima and leave 18k left over after buying the next level 3 upgrade (10k anima and 22 souls).

    Yesterday I gained 1k anima in 50 mins of play and another 500 anima in less then 20 mins. I didn't time what it took for me to do the world boss and the calling elite WQ. That isn't a lot of play or really a grind. Could it be increased? Sure. But it is far from a grind or a problem right now. Most of the complaints are about not having everything right now.

    That also ignores how the Renown vendor transmog set also has pieces locked behind renown still. So you wouldn't even be able to use the anima on stuff. There are people that are already capped on anima at 35k. That is a grind. But gaining 1k a day is far from a grind and just requires you to actually play the content. And most people keep saying the same thing over and over. They don't want to do with world quests. But they want the reward as if they did.
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  4. #264
    I am sure next patch we will get more than we can spend

  5. #265
    Maybe. If so, I'll unlock a bunch of content and cosmetics then, because I'm sure as hell not grinding anima now.

  6. #266
    1000 per week is enough its not a problem

  7. #267
    I imagine future patches will increase the amount of anima from many sources
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  8. #268
    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    Doubling would mean you can get 14k a week easily. That would provide a lot of cosmetics since we have to wait for souls in order do any further upgrades. As this week would allow a person to have 1 level 3 and 3 level 2 upgrades. It takes two weeks with 15 a week in order to get the next upgrade. That would be 28k anima and leave 18k left over after buying the next level 3 upgrade (10k anima and 22 souls).

    Yesterday I gained 1k anima in 50 mins of play and another 500 anima in less then 20 mins. I didn't time what it took for me to do the world boss and the calling elite WQ. That isn't a lot of play or really a grind. Could it be increased? Sure. But it is far from a grind or a problem right now. Most of the complaints are about not having everything right now.

    That also ignores how the Renown vendor transmog set also has pieces locked behind renown still. So you wouldn't even be able to use the anima on stuff. There are people that are already capped on anima at 35k. That is a grind. But gaining 1k a day is far from a grind and just requires you to actually play the content. And most people keep saying the same thing over and over. They don't want to do with world quests. But they want the reward as if they did.
    yes it would be 14k anima. It would also be 7-8 hours of playing. Is that so wrong?
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  9. #269
    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    yes it would be 14k anima. It would also be 7-8 hours of playing. Is that so wrong?
    But why is it bad that you can get 7k right now with 7-8 hours of playing currently?
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  10. #270
    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    But why is it bad that you can get 7k right now with 7-8 hours of playing currently?
    *points to the 14 pages currently in this thread*
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

  11. #271
    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    *points to the 14 pages currently in this thread*
    Oh gee wow. Maybe you should read those pages then to answer your own question? Is it bad to have more? No. It just isn't needed.
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  12. #272
    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    you get 15 souls in 10 minutes of work right now. in 3 weeks it will be 20 per week.

    Sure can't keep up on upgrades by spending 10 minutes per week collecting Anima.
    Irrelevant. You can only get them once a week, while anima can be collected every day, so it's still Souls that are more limited. You can easily get enough anima to use up all available souls.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelathos View Post
    In BFA half the world quests were "kill single target". My Mage enjoyed ending them in the opening burst window. But I honestly only did them with regularity because they took literal seconds per quest. If it took hours/day to accomplish the same task, my time is better served else where.
    And that's your problem. Your expectations are skewed. Rare quests in Legion and BfA were far to rewarding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    *points to the 14 pages currently in this thread*
    So it's bad because people are complaining about it? That's not much to go on. People complain about anything and everything.

  13. #273
    Quote Originally Posted by Schizoide View Post
    Maybe. If so, I'll unlock a bunch of content and cosmetics then, because I'm sure as hell not grinding anima now.
    Question is, Will we even have an anima dump with the .1 patch.

  14. #274
    Previous expansions didn't have any real way to dump their version of "AP" so I don't see that as a major problem. Let it accumulate, who cares?

  15. #275
    Quote Originally Posted by Schizoide View Post
    Previous expansions didn't have any real way to dump their version of "AP" so I don't see that as a major problem. Let it accumulate, who cares?
    Thats my point though, if there isnt any new set of items,rewards or new buildings coming in .1 patch then who cares how much of a shit show current drops are..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarx View Post
    I am sure next patch we will get more than we can spend
    Depending on what you want, really IMHO

    As a Kyrian Paladin...I find the Campaign set cosmetically nicer than the Renown quartermaster set...and the weapon / shield transmogs are "off" (pink...seriously?) Also I have no desire to play the Path of ascension feature. My Campaign gear is at 7/7 on all pieces...and lots of ppl won't probably even bother as they get better geat from mythic+, raiding and/or pvp.

    I might extend my travel network...but no desire to expand the other features. Got lucky with the Phalynx of Humility drop...so don't need 5000 anima to buy it.

    However...if I were interested in all the cosmetics, all the upgrades..etc etc...I think even 100 000 anima won't buy all that? Next patch might drop more...but that more?

    Atm it seems like a "this stuff needs to last for 2 years" things...something to grind for the next 24 months if you are a completionist. It is overwhelming with alts...so I just chip away at the campaigns and basic sets that I like.

  17. #277
    Well, we're coming up on 2 months into the expansion and I still haven't gone past level 2 on my covenant, so I'm missing out on a ton of content. That content is admittedly optional in terms of player power, but I would like to see it. Just not enough to grind anima. Also there are tons of cosmetics with each one costing thousands of anima which I'll probably never buy unless anima rewards are pretty drastically increased. It's a shame that covenant advancement, the expansion's biggest feature, is gated behind a grueling AP grind.

    Again this is still a huge improvement over past expansions because it's all optional, no player power. And it's a fantastic improvement that anima has a hard cap after which you literally don't care about it at all. These are good things. But it could be better.

  18. #278
    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    Doubling would mean you can get 14k a week easily. That would provide a lot of cosmetics since we have to wait for souls in order do any further upgrades. As this week would allow a person to have 1 level 3 and 3 level 2 upgrades. It takes two weeks with 15 a week in order to get the next upgrade. That would be 28k anima and leave 18k left over after buying the next level 3 upgrade (10k anima and 22 souls).

    Yesterday I gained 1k anima in 50 mins of play and another 500 anima in less then 20 mins. I didn't time what it took for me to do the world boss and the calling elite WQ. That isn't a lot of play or really a grind. Could it be increased? Sure. But it is far from a grind or a problem right now. Most of the complaints are about not having everything right now.

    That also ignores how the Renown vendor transmog set also has pieces locked behind renown still. So you wouldn't even be able to use the anima on stuff. There are people that are already capped on anima at 35k. That is a grind. But gaining 1k a day is far from a grind and just requires you to actually play the content. And most people keep saying the same thing over and over. They don't want to do with world quests. But they want the reward as if they did.
    Yeah imagine getting rewards without having to log in every day to do 1-2 hours worth of dailies for months.

  19. #279
    Yes, exactly. If the dailies are fun and have appropriate rewards, people will do them. Taking 10 minutes plus another 10 in travel time for a boring tedious "kill 15 mobs, click on 10 doodads, then kill a miniboss" WQ to get 100 anima when a freaking cloak transmog costs 3000, I mean, screw that right in the earhole.

    Like I said earlier in the thread, if anima rewards were quadrupled, maybe I would consider doing that. But on reflection, you know what? Probably not. That would still be two and a half hours of doing shit I really don't enjoy just for a freaking cloak transmog. But at least the rewards wouldn't be straight-up insulting.
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    Which is why I won't bother with cosmetics/collectibles until a) Flying and b) Inevitable boosts to Anima gains.
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