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Well, yes... and no. If all classes/specs performances had around 5% difference players would create less problems.Originally Posted by XDurionX
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2021-02-07, 06:54 PM #41The Lightbringer
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2021-02-07, 07:02 PM #42The Lightbringer
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But 10/10 HC. What does M+ have to do with it? Originally Posted by arr0gance
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2021-02-07, 07:08 PM #43Brewmaster
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Not much, but the OP makes a common, and annoying, post when he blames strangers for not inviting him to their group. Originally Posted by davesurfer
Had he instead written - "This is my situation: What can I do to better my chances to be invited to a pug?" - then he probably would have gotten much more help and less answers that mirrored the tone of his post.Last edited by T-34; 2021-02-07 at 07:08 PM. Reason: grammar
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2021-02-07, 07:10 PM #44Old God
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Are you removed before any pulls, as you suggest? Seems like a massive waste of time for the RL for something like heroic. I have never once seen a play kicked purely for their spec, so long as it aligns with their chosen role. Obviously i would remove a dk trying to dps as blood etc, but i never would and have never seen a player kicked for playing a sub optimal spec, so long as they can play it well. Originally Posted by Darchi
Obviously this changes a little with high end mythic, but at this stage of the tier it really doesnt matter. This just sounds like yet another fascicle story about what you think might happen, rather than what is actually happening. Maybe just start your own group and invite sub optimal specs yourself - be part of the solution.
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2021-02-07, 07:19 PM #45The Patient
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he has aotc.. io only does m+ stop being condescending... Originally Posted by arr0gance
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its actually not. its middle of the pack now.. all 3 rogue specs are middle on single target. Originally Posted by Biomega
https://i.imgur.com/4df7M1L.png last week (since buffs) at 80% through all of CN assassination is actually above the other rogue specs.
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2021-02-07, 07:19 PM #46High Overlord
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Just gonna point out I have 29340 achievement points and can barely tank a M+0 (last time I tried was early BFA). I play WoW for other things, myself.
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2021-02-07, 07:27 PM #47The Patient
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congrats on completely ignoring nearly every other heroic fight where hes got blues or higher parses... lol Originally Posted by Sergar
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l2read bud... "are you" means hes asking a question... he didnt says you are.... Originally Posted by iinverse
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bm does decent single target damage and brings lust. a lot of people bring anyone with a decent io who has lust. Originally Posted by GnomeEU
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2021-02-07, 07:33 PM #48Warchief
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Well, this is what happens when you don't care about raider.io Originally Posted by Darchi
Maby learn from it?
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2021-02-07, 07:34 PM #49The Lightbringer
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Actually, good players that care about performance play the spec that's best. I already judged the "player" as soon as they entered the raid with the wrong spec.
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2021-02-07, 07:36 PM #50The Patient
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eh... some people play the one they like. i know an arms warrior who parses 80% plus per ilvl on every single fight. but he hates how arms plays, so now that arms is better (barely) he doesnt play it. Originally Posted by Clozer
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2021-02-07, 07:41 PM #51Old God
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I agree with you OP, but sometimes it's easier to get an average TOP spec with high ilvl than some niche specs.
Also - lol'd at the people posting his r.io, like that even mean anything what OP said.
Although I get your point I'd take the worse spec with higher r.io than the meta with average. That just shows the person know how to play properly, even if he's doing slighty less DPS than his TOP-spec counter-parts. Originally Posted by Clozer
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2021-02-07, 07:44 PM #52The Lightbringer
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What's your point? You can parse well with a suboptimal spec? You could do more with the right spec. That's the point to make. Originally Posted by Subrias
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2021-02-07, 07:46 PM #53The Patient
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only if you can play it, want to play it, and have fun playing it. otherwise the motivation for a lot of people wont be there. i literally stopped playing my hunter when they made it bm, caster, or melee. (aka removed ranged survival). and i play archer classes in almost every game. Originally Posted by Clozer
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2021-02-07, 07:50 PM #54Stood in the Fire
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While its a nice sentiment and some people don't care what others play there are way too many people who do care and this will never happen.
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2021-02-07, 08:12 PM #55Elemental Lord
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You mean all the much easier mechanically fights than the last two? Four of them are pure single target, Huntsman also has minimal stuff to do. Also, Assa is highly under-represented in CN compared to two other specs, so blues with little competition are really nothing to be proud of. Guy wanted to be judged by performance, so he got what he asked for. And after that he instantly went for a personal attack to the guy who exposed his performance. Originally Posted by Subrias
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2021-02-07, 08:18 PM #56Dreadlord
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thx for undesrtanding and support... Originally Posted by Subrias
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thx for undesrtanding and support... Originally Posted by Eazy
I agree with you OP, but sometimes it's easier to get an average TOP spec with high ilvl than some niche specs.
Also - lol'd at the people posting his r.io, like that even mean anything what OP said.
Although I get your point I'd take the worse spec with higher r.io than the meta with average. That just shows the person know how to play properly, even if he's doing slighty less DPS than his TOP-spec counter-parts.
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plz can you link your cn progress or your armory.... Originally Posted by Makabreska
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2021-02-07, 08:20 PM #57Herald of the Titans
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I have 140 dps applicants to my +15 dungeon. I have one spot. What do you think will happen to other 139 people? Originally Posted by Darchi
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2021-02-07, 08:21 PM #58Elemental Lord
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Nope, because that's irrelevant to the fact that, from your gameplay, you were judged to be a poor player. Exactly how you asked others to do so. Maybe next time be careful what you ask for, so entire thing wont blow up in your face so spectacularly? Originally Posted by Darchi
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2021-02-07, 08:24 PM #59Old God
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I find it very interesting (and quite telling) that you are basically only replying to those you feel agree with you. Originally Posted by Darchi
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I feel this scenario is FAR more likely than "no on will invite me to heroic because im the "wrong" spec". I have seen PLENTY of people removed from heroic raids because of their performance (and attitude) but in all my times pugging heroic, i have never seen someone kicked for being the "wrong" spec. Originally Posted by Makabreska
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2021-02-07, 08:24 PM #60Elemental Lord
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Guy wants a safe-space echo chamber to convince himself that it's the spec that is the problem (partially it is). Originally Posted by arkanon
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