Blackouts Cascade Beyond Texas in Deepening Power Crisis

[wunksta]

That's not plenty of times and those bolded, that's 23 years apart...but hey decades are like days, who is counting..

I think you are just trying to be a contrarian.

[Mihalik]

That's not plenty of times and those bolded, that's 23 years apart...but hey decades are like days, who is counting..

You nut jobs sure love your cherry picking.

So let's take the 1957 to 2017 period.

A 60 year period. There were 10 major cold snap winter storms in that time. That's one every 6 years on average.

But if you take the '83 to 2017 period that's 34 years with 8 major storms. So one every 4.25 years on average. Somewhere in the arc of that story someone should have looked at averages and went - Hmmmmm. We have an increase in frequency here. Maybe we should do something about it?

[Mihalik]

I think you are just trying to be a contrarian.

Climate change denial handbook 101.

1. Cherry pick the fuck out of your data.

[ohtlmtlm]

I do, actually.

That's why I understand capitalism is entirely unequipped to handle a crisis like climate change and relying on "investment strategies" isn't going to help anyone, because it certainly hasn't helped us thus far.

Well, you know. Besides creating food lines and telling us those only ever happen under evil Communist regimes.

we have food lines, but in Portland we have 15 police fuckwads guarding a single grocery store dumpster who have to throw out a fuck ton of perishable food items because they went over the FDA's limit on time not maintained at temperature because the store lost power for a few hours. When this happened in Olympia, WA and the local Safeway lost power they moved the refrigerated produce outside and sold it at like 25% price because they knew what was coming.

[Elegiac]

we have food lines, but in Portland we have 15 police fuckwads guarding a single grocery store dumpster who have to throw out a fuck ton of perishable food items because they went over the FDA's limit on time not maintained at temperature because the store lost power for a few hours. When this happened in Olympia, WA and the local Safeway lost power they moved the refrigerated produce outside and sold it at like 25% price because they knew what was coming.

It gets even worse when you realise the bit about "have to" is a lie. There's a legal exemption of liability for donated food products.

They're destroying it because NIMBY. America is a broken country.

[ShadowofVashj]

I remember how much sympathy the West coast got from President dipshit and his dipshitlings last year in yet another year of record wildfires.


pull yourselves up by your boot straps, government isn't for giving hand-outs, it's not my fault you don't have a generator or food storage in case of emergency, why should my tax dollars go to bail out their bad planning???? I thought they wanted to leave the Union, now they're seeking handouts? fucken Texan snowflakes can't handle a couple of snowflakes?

thanks, i got it out of my system. I'll accept punishment if there is one.

oh, also they have wind-turbines at latitudes much higher north than fucking Texas and don't seem to have problems. Maybe consider the people that installed those turbines cut costs by not installing the deicing feature because they didn't think they'd need it. shrug

Preach on brother. These hypocrites have less than zero empathy.

[Edge-]

Preach on brother. These hypocrites have less than zero empathy.

I feel bad for the actual Texans dealing with this. Not bad for any of the Texans telling everyone else that this is an acceptable price to pay for "keeping the feds outta our power grid" while they sit in their homes that still have power.

Cruz, Abott, Perry and the lot of them need to survive a few days in their mansions without any electricity or support at all. Let's see what tune they start singing, then.

[ohtlmtlm]

It gets even worse when you realise the bit about "have to" is a lie. There's a legal exemption of liability for donated food products.

They're destroying it because NIMBY. America is a broken country.

they destroy it because if they do then you have to buy it, it's a Kroger supermarket chain they'll have new meat stocks within the week. this is purely just not wanting to see people get something for free, that they will have to come into the store and buy at full price next week when they get restocked.

[Ihavewaffles]

The point is that it happens frequently enough, 4 times in the last 10 years, that they need to address the issue. And people like Crenshaw need to stop claiming it's a once in a century occurrence.

Dude, I experience months of cold weather, qq about 1-2 days of snow in freaking Texas is not only a bit silly, the place is a desert, it is a warm place, to me I see the months of cold weather replenishing water supplies, less impactful for me than to warm places (like Texas) that badly need those supplies in the summer.

Texas should put its main focus on the impact of heat n droughts, water supply, and spend less time being hysterical that 1-2 days of snow is the end of the world. I'm pretty sure Texas will pull through just fine and its not exactly the end of the world...

"i saw snow, im scared!"

You'd think with global warming increased fresh water supplies would be welcome..

[Edge-]

You'd think with global warming increased fresh water supplies would be welcome..

It's like you're desperate to make sure that everyone knows that you don't understand a thing about the topic of climate change. This ain't how it works, yo.

[Elegiac]

Dude, I experience months of cold weather, qq about 1-2 days of snow in freaking Texas is not only a bit silly, the place is a desert, it is a warm place, to me I see the months of cold weather replenishing water supplies, less impactful for me than to warm places (like Texas) that badly need those supplies in the summer.

Texas should put its main focus on the impact of heat n droughts, water supply, and spend less time being hysterical that 1-2 days of snow is the end of the world. I'm pretty sure Texas will pull through just fine and its not exactly the end of the world...

This is absolutely vile. Twenty one people have frozen to death so far and millions are without power, heat, and water in below freezing temperatures.

And this shit doesn't wrap up in "1-2 days", sweaty; winter conditions do a *lot* of lasting damage to infrastructure that is designed to handle it. I can't imagine the plumbing costs in the weeks ahead with all the burst pipes and water mains.

[ShadowofVashj]

I feel bad for the actual Texans dealing with this. Not bad for any of the Texans telling everyone else that this is an acceptable price to pay for "keeping the feds outta our power grid" while they sit in their homes that still have power.

Cruz, Abott, Perry and the lot of them need to survive a few days in their mansions without any electricity or support at all. Let's see what tune they start singing, then.

While I agree with you in principle, how are Cruz Abbot and Perry in the positions they are? 60-70% of Texans want them there.

And of course, you already have Abbot going on Fox News lying through his teeth about green energy failing, when wind energy only makes up 7% of the power output in the state.

Sadly, this seems the only way maybe, MAYBE to teach them some empathy.

Probably not though. It'll just be the same old tired blaming liberals/aoc/communist/socialists, or rich jews who control space lasers.

[TigTone]

While I agree with you in principle, how are Cruz Abbot and Perry in the positions they are? 60-70% of Texans want them there.

And of course, you already have Abbot going on Fox News lying through his teeth about green energy failing, when wind energy only makes up 7% of the power output in the state.

Sadly, this seems the only way maybe, MAYBE to teach them some empathy.

Probably not though. It'll just be the same old tired blaming liberals/aoc/communist/socialists, or rich jews who control space lasers.

Im pretty sure the movie geostorm is inspired by the Jew space lasers conspiracy theory.

[Edge-]

snip.

Without getting too political for this forum, I do hope that voters hold their leaders accountable for these actions.

[Jastall]

Yeah, no. I can guarantee you that builders aren't anywhere near R-20 in new construction, at least not where I live. The entire neighborhood behind my house is 2015+ construction dates and you're looking about 2" of blow insulation in the attic, and 3.5" inch the walls.

The only saving grace these houses have is that they're bricked on all sides. The building quality is laughable at best, horrifying at worst. They still put the electrical panels outside. In an area prone to large storms and hurricanes. Real useful guys, I love flipping my breakers back on in 100+ MPH winds.

What the what. How is that a good idea in anything but the very mildest of climes?

[Elegiac]

What the what. How is that a good idea in anything but the very mildest of climes?

Narrator: "It was not, in fact, a good idea."

I still find it kind of mystifying how you can legitimately punch a hole through many doors in more recent houses. The construction is so shoddy.

[Milchshake]

With all of the human suffering happening. It's hard to contemplate the damage to the ecosystems not prepared for this weather.

Texas Game Warden are rescuing sea turtles from frigid waters.

[wunksta]

While I agree with you in principle, how are Cruz Abbot and Perry in the positions they are? 60-70% of Texans want them there..

Well technically 55.8% of voters voted for Abbot, and only 8,343,443 people voted out of 15,249,541 eligible voters in 2018. That's 4,655,641 voters, so 30% of Texans wanted Abbot if my math is correct.

[bladeXcrasher]

While I agree with you in principle, how are Cruz Abbot and Perry in the positions they are? 60-70% of Texans want them there.

And of course, you already have Abbot going on Fox News lying through his teeth about green energy failing, when wind energy only makes up 7% of the power output in the state.

Sadly, this seems the only way maybe, MAYBE to teach them some empathy.

Probably not though. It'll just be the same old tired blaming liberals/aoc/communist/socialists, or rich jews who control space lasers.

I highly doubt that many of us Texas residents want those clowns. The real reason is gerrymandering, at some points so bad the judiciary had to slap the GOP hands for being so overtly racist, looking at you Tarrant County.

[Belize]

What the what. How is that a good idea in anything but the very mildest of climes?

It's not.

But it's cheaper to build houses that way because then you don't have to route the main through the wall and can just run 3 feet of conduit from the underground line up to the panel.

The panel, which btw, isn't in a totally waterproof NEMA enclosure but just a Type 1 where the front panel just tucks underneath the top without a full seal.

It's truly a masterclass of cutting corners to maximize profits and lower build times of houses, future consequences be damned