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  1. #501
    "It's better than the Theatrical Version!" Is something we all should agree with. Let's be united by that <3

  2. #502
    Quote Originally Posted by Witchblade77 View Post
    fair enough. and I will agree that for all the issues I have with it, it IS better then his previous 2 entries into DCU. its certainly more coherent then Suicide squad (I know that it wasn't Snyder who did that one, as much as I have issues with Snyder's choices, at least its never as jumbled as what David Ayer comes up with - any time I watch Ayer movie, its like I'm watching a highlight reel with parts missing)

    unpopular opinion. I wish they kept Manu Bennet as Deathstroke.

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    he called them reactionary. and he was quite literally about to die for the cause. unless something changed recently, Lasso doesn't make you discover inner truths or insights. it makes you reveal what you believe to be true.
    David Ayer is a very weird director. I haven't enjoyed any film he's made.

    Manu Bennett was the best part about Arrow apart from Katie Cassidy being hot in the first season before she became the skeleton of Katie Cassidy.

    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    "It's better than the Theatrical Version!" Is something we all should agree with. Let's be united by that <3
    Similar situation to BvS with the Ultimate Edition, though I still didn't buy the motivations behind them fighting in either version of that film.

  3. #503
    Quote Originally Posted by Witchblade77 View Post
    fair enough. and I will agree that for all the issues I have with it, it IS better then his previous 2 entries into DCU. its certainly more coherent then Suicide squad (I know that it wasn't Snyder who did that one, as much as I have issues with Snyder's choices, at least its never as jumbled as what David Ayer comes up with - any time I watch Ayer movie, its like I'm watching a highlight reel with parts missing)

    unpopular opinion. I wish they kept Manu Bennet as Deathstroke.

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    he called them reactionary. and he was quite literally about to die for the cause. unless something changed recently, Lasso doesn't make you discover inner truths or insights. it makes you reveal what you believe to be true.
    And deep down he believed they were reactionary terrorists. It forces them to tell the truth and he did.

  4. #504
    Quote Originally Posted by Skulltaker View Post
    RotJ made more money than it cost in its opening weekend. It made 10 times its cost over its theatrical run.

    Potter cost 200 million, and made 950 million.

    The definiton of a bomb is 'not breaking even during its theatrical run.'

    Which part of that are you not getting, exactly?
    How is Justice League a bomb for losing $60M during its initial run and Harry Potter not a bomb for losing $137M during its initial run? Or RotJ not turning a profit during its initial run?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    You asked for a "bomb" definition, I provided it, it proved you wrong. Gonna adress it?
    I have been. Repeatedly.

  5. #505
    Jesus Christ, get your own thread for this 'bomb' discussion, guys. It's just derailing the thread.

  6. #506
    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    "It's better than the Theatrical Version!" Is something we all should agree with. Let's be united by that <3
    No way. The theatrical release in being leaner is more focused than this bloated mess.

    Generally, films are much better when they are cut mercilessly. Hence the old adage of production and art creation- kill your babies.

    Way too many babies in this re-cut.
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  7. #507
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    You said the only thing worse than 2 hours of JL was 4 hours of JL. So, you heavily implied you had watched it.
    i was speaking conceptually. learn to use context clues.

  8. #508
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    I haven't watched this and quite frankly don't want to waste 4 hours watching Zack Snyder masturbate onto the screen.

    However, I should point the DCU has already been saved by Wonder Woman, Shazam and Aquaman.
    As far as I've heard they given up on them being a connected universe at this point, so while Aquaman was successful they don't plan any crossover events or shared continuity between movies anymore.

  9. #509
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    Manu Bennett was the best part about Arrow apart from Katie Cassidy being hot in the first season before she became the skeleton of Katie Cassidy.
    I admit it took me that whole first season to accept Manu Bennett. But now I can't see anyone else as Deathstroke..yet.

  10. #510
    Quote Originally Posted by Fencers View Post
    No way. The theatrical release in being leaner is more focused than this bloated mess.

    Generally, films are much better when they are cut mercilessly. Hence the old adage of production and art creation- kill your babies.

    Way too many babies in this re-cut.
    I disagree with you, but that's okay for us to do. The theatrical cut was just awful and felt like a throaway episode of an animated series.

    Quote Originally Posted by NihilSustinet View Post
    i was speaking conceptually. learn to use context clues.
    Sorry, bud. You were being flippant and it's pretty easy to assume you were talking like you'd seen it.

    No need to try and imply that people were too dumb to recognise that you were being 'conceptual'.

  11. #511
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrst View Post
    Jesus Christ, get your own thread for this 'bomb' discussion, guys. It's just derailing the thread.
    We’re talking about Justice League. I don’t think it’s a bomb. I also don’t see the logic in giving a director who’s already too frivolous with budget even more money to make a bigger version that’s only going to be seen on streaming.

  12. #512
    Quote Originally Posted by Witchblade77 View Post
    as bad as it was this version is just... longer. with more pretentious editing and sadder, more on the nose soundtrack.
    People who say this shouldn't be allowed to talk about movies. How you can think it's the same movie when:

    1. the villain has completely different motivations
    2. flash has more character building
    3. cyborg has a backstory and more character building
    4. they don't waste time on an unrelated russian family
    5. Darkseid appears at all
    6. the story surrounding the mother boxes gets a proper explanation
    7. Batman's character arc gets resolved
    8. Martian Manhunter and Joker are in it
    9. The Flash isn't just comic relief but actually saves the day

    I could go on, but it's clear you just didn't watch the movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Welp, Gamespot gave it 3/10. 54% Metacritic score. General conclusion: Steppenwolf fleshed out much better but movie is still a mess. New characters bring nothing, CGI still abhorrent.
    2 sources? That's it?
    Critics suck. They gave Ghostbusters 2016 a good score.

  13. #513
    Quote Originally Posted by Aydinx2 View Post
    People who say this shouldn't be allowed to talk about movies. How you can think it's the same movie when:

    1. the villain has completely different motivations
    2. flash has more character building
    3. cyborg has a backstory and more character building
    4. they don't waste time on an unrelated russian family
    5. Darkseid appears at all
    6. the story surrounding the mother boxes gets a proper explanation
    7. Batman's character arc gets resolved
    8. Martian Manhunter and Joker are in it
    9. The Flash isn't just comic relief but actually saves the day

    I could go on, but it's clear you just didn't watch the movie.
    Agree, one thing that annoyed me was the overuse of slow-mos, otherwise movie is good
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aydinx2 View Post
    2 sources? That's it?
    Critics suck. They gave Ghostbusters 2016 a good score.
    No, Metacritic is not a single source. Also, why do people say "critics suck" each time they have different movie opinions?
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    I really enjoyed it, it wasn't perfect but it didn't have to be. Would love for them to continue the series building on this but that probably won't happen.

    Few moments made me feel a bit weird though, like when Wonder Woman decides to do her bracelet thing to take out that last terrorist and in doing so blow up part of the building instead of just.. disarming him or something Also the soundtrack was weird at some points, did Snyder not get permission to use some tracks or something?
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  16. #516
    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    No, Metacritic is not a single source. Also, why do people say "critics suck" each time they have different movie opinions?
    I say it every time because I never trust critics. Too many times have they not aligned with what the audience likes.
    Metacritic counts as a single source because it aggregates critics. At least Rotten Tomatoes has the decency to add audience score.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguinerd View Post
    I really enjoyed it, it wasn't perfect but it didn't have to be. Would love for them to continue the series building on this but that probably won't happen.

    Few moments made me feel a bit weird though, like when Wonder Woman decides to do her bracelet thing to take out that last terrorist and in doing so blow up part of the building instead of just.. disarming him or something Also the soundtrack was weird at some points, did Snyder not get permission to use some tracks or something?
    They did overuse the wonder woman "aaaaaaaaa" track. Also what was up with sniffing aquamans sweater?

  17. #517
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    We’re talking about Justice League. I don’t think it’s a bomb. I also don’t see the logic in giving a director who’s already too frivolous with budget even more money to make a bigger version that’s only going to be seen on streaming.
    1. I don't care if the film was a bomb. You guys also started derailing by exclusively discussing what a 'bomb' means.
    2. Snyder actually has always stuck to the budgets in his films, and actually brought them in ahead of schedule in the past.
    3. Snyder also isn't responsible for them wasting a ton of money on the reshoots to what was an already shot film, given the fact that this version has only 5 minutes of new footage.
    4. As far as the 'only seen on streaming' argument is concerned...every Marvel and Star Wars TV show will have a good budget and will only be on Disney+.

  18. #518
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    We’re talking about Justice League. I don’t think it’s a bomb. I also don’t see the logic in giving a director who’s already too frivolous with budget even more money to make a bigger version that’s only going to be seen on streaming.
    Name a single time when he went overbudget or wasted money.

  19. #519
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguinerd View Post
    I really enjoyed it, it wasn't perfect but it didn't have to be. Would love for them to continue the series building on this but that probably won't happen.

    Few moments made me feel a bit weird though, like when Wonder Woman decides to do her bracelet thing to take out that last terrorist and in doing so blow up part of the building instead of just.. disarming him or something Also the soundtrack was weird at some points, did Snyder not get permission to use some tracks or something?
    I know it'll be expensive, but they should shut up and just do a direct to streaming mini-series for the '2nd and 3rd film'. Keep it Elseworlds.

    It would also be a sick AF launchpad for proper Elseworlds and standalone stories on HBOMax. Maybe one day someone will do Kingdom Come.

  20. #520
    Quote Originally Posted by Serpha View Post
    Agree, one thing that annoyed me was the overuse of slow-mos, otherwise movie is good
    I dislike the slow-mo when it's used to slow down a single attack and make it look artsy. When it's used for important shots or to make the Batmobile look cool it's fine.

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