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    Quote Originally Posted by The Butt Witch View Post
    I really worry about Shao Kahn. Apparently he will be played by that dude who always plays some super side character that appears on the screen for like 10 seconds during the entire movie and has like a couple of lines of dialogue. If they're gonna have Shao Kahn as a scenery character that just sits on a throne the entire movie, I'm gonna be pissed. On the other hand I don't trust Nathan Jones' ability to actually play a full character.
    now that is utterly ridiculous. How did the manage to replace Johnny Cage and cast a not-that-great Nathan Jones for the iconic shao kahn role at the same time? Sheesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium View Post
    it being solely based of race doesn't even make sense as they have kano filling the funny guy role and he's just as white as johnny. they might have had race in mind when it came to who would be the lead but it obviously isn't why he's not in the movie.
    Is kano the main character? no? then stfu and stop bringing him up and/or learn to read

    "And I early on felt uncomfortable having a white male lead kind of lead that charge in the first movie"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leyre View Post
    Is kano the main character? no? then stfu and stop bringing him up and/or learn to read

    "And I early on felt uncomfortable having a white male lead kind of lead that charge in the first movie"
    so you didn't even read my post you just quoted? here ill say it again.
    they might have had race in mind when it came to who would be the lead but it obviously isn't why he's not in the movie.
    so ya one of us needs to learn to read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faltemer View Post
    Let's stay on topic and not delve into forbidden topics. Consider this the threads warning.
    OT; wished Mods that give warnings would update the Thread Title with [MOD] tag attached to it and their warning in the OP like a lot of other forums do... because frequently people don't see said warning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium View Post
    how many movie's have you seen with a core hero cast of 9 with two egotistical comic relief characters done well?
    You mean other than the original Mortal Kombat film ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium View Post
    so you didn't even read my post you just quoted? here ill say it again.
    they might have had race in mind when it came to who would be the lead but it obviously isn't why he's not in the movie.
    so ya one of us needs to learn to read.
    "And I early on felt uncomfortable having a white male lead kind of lead that charge in the first movie"

    "having a white male lead kind of lead that charge in the first movie"

    "white male lead"

    "white male"

    There, did you got it now? the "i'll put it on the sequel" is a cop-out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fkiolaris View Post
    You mean other than the original Mortal Kombat film ?
    you haven't seen the original movie have you?

    this is the good guy cast in the original, you may notice there is no Kung lao, no scorpion, no Jax, no Kano. would you like to try again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leyre View Post
    "And I early on felt uncomfortable having a white male lead kind of lead that charge in the first movie"

    "having a white male lead kind of lead that charge in the first movie"

    "white male lead"

    "white male"

    There, did you got it now? the "i'll put it on the sequel" is a cop-out
    So you still didn't read my post then? as I said race was a faction in not making him the lead but it wasn't a factor in rather he was in the movie or not. Johnny's role has never been to be the hero or the main character his role has always been that of comic relief on the side a roll that Kano is filling in this movie as they have said in interviews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium View Post
    you haven't seen the original movie have you?

    this is the good guy cast in the original, you may notice there is no Kung lao, no scorpion, no Jax, no Kano. would you like to try again?

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    So you still didn't read my post then? as I said race was a faction in not making him the lead but it wasn't a factor in rather he was in the movie or not. Johnny's role has never been to be the hero or the main character his role has always been that of comic relief on the side a roll that Kano is filling in this movie as they have said in interviews.
    Alright then, explain why Johnny isnt in the movie then, explain why there's a Mileena but not Kitana, why Kabal but not Stryker, and why the hell is Nitara there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leyre View Post
    Alright then, explain why Johnny isnt in the movie then, explain why there's a Mileena but not Kitana, why Kabal but not Stryker, and why the hell is Nitara there?
    I've posted the reason a few times but for the reading impaired I shall again, right from the horses mouth.

    “The reason we held back Johnny Cage is he is a very egotistical guy. He’s a scoundrel. He’s funny. He’s bigger than life… and so is Kano,” producer Todd Garner had said during a presser, picked up by Gamespot. “So you go, ‘Alright, are we gonna just gonna have two guys competing to [see who can] out-funny each other and out-ego each other in this movie? Or do you hold Johnny Cage back?
    https://www.vg247.com/2021/03/18/joh...-kombat-movie/

    as for the other's your guess is as good as mine as i haven't seen any statements released about any but Stryker but id guess many fall into the same one for Stryker.

    But just because people’s favorite characters aren’t in Mortal Kombat doesn’t mean they won’t ever appear onscreen. “We don’t want to disappoint the fans,” Garner says. “That being said, there’s no possible way to make a movie where everybody gets what they want.”

    But perhaps that’s something that can change in the future, should the film land with authority, paving the way for a Mortal Kombat Universe. And before you start joking about “SonyaVision,” just know, Garner is one step ahead.

    “I would make WandaVision for Liu Kang and Kung Lao,” he says. “I would do a Stryker movie. I would do a Sonya and Jax movie and make it like Black Hawk Down. I’m not trying to fight fans. There’s legitimate reasons we did everything.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium View Post
    I've posted the reason a few times but for the reading impaired I shall again, right from the horses mouth.


    https://www.vg247.com/2021/03/18/joh...-kombat-movie/

    as for the other's your guess is as good as mine as i haven't seen any statements released about any but Stryker but id guess many fall into the same one for Stryker.
    Kano and Johnny as characters are absolutely nothing alike.

    This stinks to high heaven as if theres been some rather deserved pushback from fans pissed that every single OG character is in the movie except one and race was mentioned multiple times as a factor why and now its time to come up with flimsy excuses why as damage control.

    Even the 95 movie had all the OG characters from the game.

    This just stinks

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    Quote Originally Posted by minkage View Post
    Kano and Johnny as characters are absolutely nothing alike.

    This stinks to high heaven as if theres been some rather deserved pushback from fans pissed that every single OG character is in the movie except one and race was mentioned multiple times as a factor why and now its time to come up with flimsy excuses why as damage control.

    Even the 95 movie had all the OG characters from the game.

    This just stinks
    I mean there both big talking hammy egotist, with kano being on the hero's side atleast at the start there is a ton of personally overlap until they get to the obvious back stab.

    as far as the interview goes it doesn't say any where that Johnny isn't in the movie because of his race or any thing reason its solely about why he's not the main character just like how they cover why liu kang isn't the lead. Race obviously isn't what's baring him from being in the movie as they could swap kano out with him as the wise guy and have no problem as there both white guys.

    also the 95 movie both scorpion and subzero but fodder bad guys with no real character so sure it had all the OG's but when you don't develop them at all that really means nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayia View Post
    Whole character of Cage is a spoiled white kid getting over himself and becoming a better person, meanwhile diversity can't have even GOOD white characters in films anymore.
    Its a skip for me even as a fan not supporting sjw trash is my goto... maybe before i die companies will understand go woke, go broke.
    How ever will they survive without your incredibly easy to trigger patronage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium View Post
    you haven't seen the original movie have you?
    I have, same with paying the original game when it was just a coin-up. It seems to me you are the one that did not even bother doing either and it's now bending backwards trying to excuse what they are doing with this movie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fkiolaris View Post
    I have, same with paying the original game when it was just a coin-up. It seems to me you are the one that did not even bother doing either and it's now bending backwards trying to excuse what they are doing with this movie
    So you’ve seen the original movie yet you think it had a good guy roster of 9 when it was in fact only 5 leaving out kung Lao Jax and had Kano and scorpion as bad guys.

    Oh but you played the first game which also didn’t have Kung Lao or Jax. So what you just lack the ability to count past 5 or recognize when a character isn’t even there?

    So would you like to admit that you don’t have an example of a good guy team of 9 with two egoist comic relief characters or would you like to keep making a fool of your self because you don’t actually know who was in the first MK game or movie?

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    Some new trailers with some brief looks at things like some specials, a shot of Millena’s Teeth (hopefully that’s not all of them), and a bat person Who’s Proabbly Nitara.

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    On the whole idea Johnny Cage is left out of the movie because his personality is too similar to Kano's, yeah, I'd call horse shit on that as well. I mean, not only did the first movie feature both in all their glorious egotistical, arrogant and colorful personalities (even if Kano dies early on, he was featured prominently early on), but obviously the games have continued to feature both prominently in expansive cut scenes. Race aside, at what point is your writing team incompetent if they leave a major character out in favor of an OC and the reasoning boils down to "it's hard to write him?" I mean, at the risk of SOUNDING racist, when you first see and hear the names, wouldn't Liu Kang and Kung Lao be similar characters? So much so the original MK movie left out Kung Lao. That's a rhetorical question. Of course they're not, and the movie will likely showcase that, just the way any decent writer could have featured both Johnny Cage AND Kano with their very distinct personalities.

    In the early 2000's, Bryan Singer explained not using Gambit in his early X-Men movies too because he felt "his personality is too similar to Wolverine's and powers too similar to Cyclops" which had nothing to do with race, but is a sorry excuse nonetheless to deprive the franchise of a popular character. We all know Bryan Singer was serviceable at adapting X-Men to the big screen but far from perfect and criticism of his reasoning to omit Gambit from the movies is just as justified as omitting Johnny Cage from Mortal Kombat because "he's too similar to Kano." It's a piss poor excuse and it's an idiotic thing to even reverse psychology this by saying it's "NOT about race." Just own up to it and admit you failed at writing or say for diversity's sake you didn't feature Johnny Cage because you didn't want the white guy stealing all the thunder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bledgor View Post
    Imagine taking a story that already exists, and cutting one of the core members of a team (never once have I thought of Johnny Cage as the primary hero, if it was any character it was Liu Kang, but I always viewed it as a team of heroes than 1 hero) because he is white.

    I would expect people to get pissed and boycott it, much the same reason I have never see several films that use white leads in places they shouldn't (including the Matt Daemon wall of China film, Ghost in the Shell with Scar Jo, and several others. Not to say you can't have a white lead in a foriegn country, because while it isn't exactly accurate I really enjoyed The Last Samurai, but that's also because Ken Watanabe was amazing).
    But your entire reasoning of who gets to play "who", is completely race-based.
    Matt, and Scarlet weren't picked because they're "White". They were picked for those roles because they're HUGE stars, who actually act decently as well. (who would've guessed?)

    What sooo many wanna be "anti-racists" fail to ever realize is that they themselves are the biggest "racist" part of that equation.
    Seriously, your logic is shit.
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  18. #158
    My thoughts on the trailer:
    Jax looks badass. He looks a thousand times better than Cyborg from Justice League.

    Goro looks great even though you can clearly tell he is cgi. Also who is he fighting? Is that like Johnny Cage? I assume if it is Johnny is going to end up up dead. Also what is that like rock skin/armor the guy is wearing it looks bad.

    Hiroyuki Sanada is an awesome actor and the only one I can recognize from the film so the only way Scorpion can be fucked up is by the writers.

    Sub Zero looks cool.

    Why does Kano have a cyborg eye but a normal face? Also is he supposed to have 2 laser eyes cause when he shoots the beam its his left eye doing it while in the kinda cut up face images his right eye is red. He also doesn't look that muscular.

    Robin Shou looked more badass as Liu Kang the new guy looks like a little kid or something. Kung Lao also kinda looks noobish.

    Mileena looks terrible with her crooked tiny yellow smokers teeth they better grow or some shit. While looking for a better view of reptile?? I noticed Mileena has normal human teeth while fighting Sonya I hope that's just a mistake and gets fixed.

    Also why is Aeon Calcos in the film and why does Kano kill him?


    Overall I'm not sure on this. Some things like how good Goro looks makes it seem like they really put alot of effort into it but then shit like Mileena and Kano makes me wonder if they kind of half assed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyphael View Post
    On the whole idea Johnny Cage is left out of the movie because his personality is too similar to Kano's, yeah, I'd call horse shit on that as well. I mean, not only did the first movie feature both in all their glorious egotistical, arrogant and colorful personalities (even if Kano dies early on, he was featured prominently early on), but obviously the games have continued to feature both prominently in expansive cut scenes. Race aside, at what point is your writing team incompetent if they leave a major character out in ever of an OC and the reasoning boils down to "it's hard to write him?" I mean, at the risk of SOUNDING racist, when you first see and hear the names, wouldn't Liu Kang and Kung Lao be similar characters? So much so the original MK movie left out Kung Lao. That's a rhetorical question. Of course they're not, and the movie will likely showcase that, just the way any decent writer could have featured both Johnny Cage AND Kano with their very distinct personalities.
    assuming they aren't poor writers it could just come down to a screen time problem. with scorpian and sub zero being fleshed out and then both kung lao and jax added to the mix as well as them wanting to put in a new hero for a audience surrogate it could very well just be that they would have had to put all the comic relief time together so any scenes of Johnny would have to be paired with kano to save time and they didn't want waste them like that.

    it being race based just doesn't make any sense because if they only wanted one white guy they could have made kano American-Japanese as he originally was or leave kano out altogether and have no white guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty123456 View Post
    Mileena looks terrible with her crooked tiny yellow smokers teeth they better grow or some shit. While looking for a better view of reptile?? I noticed Mileena has normal human teeth while fighting Sonya I hope that's just a mistake and gets fixed.
    This is something i really hope they don't botch as well with any luck all the teeth shots we have seen aren't all and her whole cheeks rid away or something to give us a full tarkanten look.
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    I’m really happy midway embraced the whole Kano is aussie that stemmed from his portrayal in the 95 film

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