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  1. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by Belloc View Post
    Spoiler alert: TBC had a meta, too and, just like on Classic, people will expect it to be followed.

    OP: What, you don't want an authentic TBC experience?
    You don't really know what you are saying.

    ppl didn't have 100,000 gold going into TBC... Guilds barely had anything near that.

  2. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by psiko74 View Post
    Everything in TBC will be too expensive for new players. There needs to be new realms with locked transfers.
    yeah this. I thought about reupping my sub for tbc classic, but the idea of many coming in with tons of gold means the markets are going to be catering to them, instead of new players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crusadernero View Post
    someone being optimistic. Make sure to roll the proper class & spec in BC.

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    We should have classic servers up at all times.

    There should also be fresh BC servers.


    cant wait for what Blizzard has in store for this. Lots of people are hoarding gold on classic in hopes of taking it all with them to bc.
    rofl bro. Metas have been a thing since vanilla.

  3. #143
    They already told us we arent getting fresh servers for launch.. And to those of you saying that its a F*cked economy, let me tell you something..

    Its literally the same as moving from BFA to Shadowlands… Theres always going to be people with enough gold to last them the whole expansion… And retail is even worse at this, The economy is LITERALLY so f*cked up on retail, that items that shouldnt be worth -ANYTHING- is worth Thousands… Atleast the prices on classic is achievable…

    And here is where you come with the “well you get gold slower on classic than retail” Well, No… You really dont… Look at the community conversion rate… 1 classic gold is about 200-350G, depending on who you trade with, Theres flasks on Classic selling for 165G. lets be conservative here and use 275 as the conversion rate (1:275) which means 1 flask selling for 165G would be equal to 1 flask selling for 45375G on retail… THIS shows just how f*cked up the retail economy is… so people complaining that bringing gold from classic to BC:C is screwing up the economy, NO it really wont… There were people back then entering TBC with Gold cap, and there is this time aswell…
    Sure, theres more people with gold cap, but theres also more people playing classic than there were back then… and people are better now, knows more about how to efficiently farm gold etc.
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  4. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by arboachg View Post
    Exactly how?
    BC wasn't a standalone game. It was an expansion, and just like with classic some people had been playing since launch and had more gold than others. The difference was that in 2007 gamers were less entitled and understood that people who put more time and effort into an mmo had more stuff than them, and that was ok.
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  5. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by ranzino View Post
    why add another bunch of realms to the already existing ones with low populations ?
    This is the key point. Unless we overpopulate the existing servers it would be a complete waste of money to add more. It would also cannibalize servers that may already be struggling population wise.

    Once the game launches I'm sure they'll monitor the situation and if existing servers become jam packed they'll add fresh ones and allow us to migrate over to those.

  6. #146
    I'm happy there will be some economy rather than no economy, because it was just created, these realms have had churn, they have low end mats being posted. the thing about games like this is nothing is finite, you can actually just farm anything you think you need yourself, and have it cost nothing. even if you can't farm the thing you need you most definitely can farm something else and trade/sell that for the thing you need. its never such that, you can't progress because you don't have enough gold. or you can't progress because some else has more gold than you.

    its 6k gold per alt for epic flying, if you make 10 alts and want epic flying on all of them that 60k gold.

    in wrath you have the mammoth, 16k gold. i've got 200g, would it make sense to reset everyones gold for wrath, while there are gold sinks into the 20-30k region? i think the game is balance around there being a lot of gold, because at some point you can list whatever the hell you want for whatever price you want, but if its quicker to go grind that item, than it would be to go grind thousands of gold, that item ain't gunna sell.

    you can try to sell flasks for 1000g per flask, but they won't sell if it takes longer to grind 1000g than it does to grind 1 flask. this principle alone makes sure that all of the high churn items never become too over inflated. because at some point there is a cross over between how much gold you can grind, in the same time it would take to grind that one item.


    at this stage, the price of righteous orbs and arcane crystals on my server is between 35-40g for both of them, for a while the righteous orbs and arcane crystals were at about 50g when naxx came out, you could sell arcanite bars for about 70g but now its dropped down again to 40g.

    seems as though as time went on, things didn't get more expensive, they simply got cheaper, and the demand got less. meanwhile the supply, which is infinite, stayed the same.
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  7. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by Echocho View Post
    This is the key point. Unless we overpopulate the existing servers it would be a complete waste of money to add more.
    As you can see in this thread and on reddit: no fresh realms effectively means a large group of people won't be playing at all (or at least they consider not to).
    At least I would consider losing players a greater loss than the few bucks extra low pop realms would cost them. Worst case they can still merge as they see fit after all, just like they're merging the toons that are transferred to eternal classic realms (yes, we will have the realm names added back to the characters, just like in retail).

    Either way, the efficiency argument flies out of the window the moment we're basically talking about a new game mode, or better said a completely different gaming environment provided. And yes, those who said that fresh TBC realms also had downsides are 100% right, I experienced TBC on one after all. It wasn't always pretty, especially when it concerned endgame raiding. Hell I remember our raid leader rerolling a Holy Paladin for Brutalus because we simply didn't have one and couldn't find one on Horde (and those you could find were either extremely low skilled or didn't want to heal, 2007 style).

    But regardless, I would still prefer that experience over starting on a well-saturated realm any day, especially if I would start fresh without a 60 available for transfer.

    Personally speaking, the Vanilla experience was the important thing for me in this whole classic deal, if they want to water down TBC now (for whatever good or bad reason) then whatever.

  8. #148
    Not interested without fresh realms. Economy is done, guilds already made, gold from quests and vendor items ruined.

    Fresh realm I would play for a while. Even better would be new classic fresh realms after a while.

  9. #149
    Not interested, I made my 12k gold for the sole purpose of taking it to TBC.

  10. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by ztkraptor View Post
    You don't really know what you are saying.

    ppl didn't have 100,000 gold going into TBC... Guilds barely had anything near that.
    Uh... I never said anything about gold?
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  11. #151
    Quote Originally Posted by satella View Post
    What a lot of people don't realize is how much more popular TBC is compared to Vanilla.
    I rolled a toon the other day with the explicit intent of playing TBC. I don't care about any of the vanilla endgame.

    I noticed there was a LOT of new toons rolled (mankrik, horde) running around the undead starting area.

  12. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by Hexme View Post
    You want at least 1 m/rdps druid and 1 dps r/mdps shaman, their buffs were godly in TBC. As for paladins, BE rets were a lot better than alliance paladins cause of SoB was amazing in dmg.
    Which is why ally paladins are getting I dont know SOB in TBC classic, huzzah!

  13. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by Dastreus View Post
    yeah this. I thought about reupping my sub for tbc classic, but the idea of many coming in with tons of gold means the markets are going to be catering to them, instead of new players.

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    rofl bro. Metas have been a thing since vanilla.
    You mean min maxing and metafocus was a huge thing back in 05 as it is now? I mean yeah it was there, but not as strong as now. Today people just outright dont play the class they like the most. THey just pick whatever is strongest and go with it. '

    The whole debacale about convenants also show were the focus and mentality is.

  14. #154
    Imagine how much the experience will suffer when you have a few people with tens of thousands of gold inflating the economy.

    Have a job and family? Just want to raid a bit during the week? Have fun affording that flask and mats for your gear.

  15. #155
    I recently started botting, to get 20-40k gold before the Addon start, my server is dead, so no reports there.

    I would not have botted, but with this inflation you have to lol.

  16. #156
    Going into TBC with a gold cap/limit would have been my preference just so there isn't as much of a difference between people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Th3Scourge View Post
    Question.

    Is it the same server that will be progressing to TBC realms? I don't want to lose my reserved names
    your name is safe on TBC and classic era, tbc is just continuation of your beloved vanilla home like it was in 2007.
    the classic era realm is a mirrored version of the soon-tbc one at moment of prepatch with everybody's chars present if they so desire, but locked to 60 and without an exit to tbc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dastreus View Post
    yeah this. I thought about reupping my sub for tbc classic, but the idea of many coming in with tons of gold means the markets are going to be catering to them, instead of new players.
    .

    So? I mean if you're a new player and herbs are expensive, level herbalism. Pick herbs. Sell herbs. Make gold.

    It's not as if new players have a lot in the way of expenses. You're NEW. You're leveling. Even if someone boosts to 58, they have a couple of levels to level up a gathering profession and they likely won't be raiding (and thus needing consumes) right away.


    This won't be a problem for most people unless you expect to be able to buy a ton of crafted BoEs in the first month etc.

  19. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by Belloc View Post
    Uh... I never said anything about gold?
    Then why post? This thread is about gold being out of control and it ruining the meta of the economy. Seems like you did though.

  20. #160
    Fresh TBC servers are a waste of time as long as there's boosts. Don't allow boosts on those servers and yes...fantastic. But with them, there's no point in even making fresh servers.

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