View Poll Results: Who lands the killing blow

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  • Thrall

    5 1.54%
  • Tyrande

    116 35.69%
  • DK Anduin

    33 10.15%
  • Sylvanas kills herself to deny them justice

    70 21.54%
  • Bolvar

    5 1.54%
  • Player Character

    21 6.46%
  • Jaina

    1 0.31%
  • Baine

    6 1.85%
  • Zovaal

    45 13.85%
  • Arthas

    18 5.54%
  • Ysera

    5 1.54%
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  1. #341
    It'll be cosmic justice if she finds out she's been a puppet all along and dies of humiliation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    Name a single important female character in WoW who isn't a Strong Independent Woman™. I don't know, Calia...? LMAO
    This retarded meme has gone on for too long. What the fuck does that even mean? No, really? In WoW's context? In WoW men and women were always equally strong. Gender was never an issue. WoW women were always "strong and independent" as you put it, as in, just as capable as men. You have a problem with that, of all things? Because a female character shoots powerful lasers? No one seemed to care 15 years ago.

    How the fuck is any WoW female "strong and independent" in the SJW way? They all have husbands/male lovers, often have children, are very traditional and a family oriented. They never make a big deal out of being women, they don't act like they're worse off with men. Literally where are you seeing this? People need to spend less time on the internet and stop looking at everything through buzzword lenses. What the fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    Name a single important female character in WoW who isn't a Strong Independent Woman™. I don't know, Calia...? LMAO
    useless windrunner, aggra, mayla highmountain
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    Quote Originally Posted by omeomorfismo View Post
    useless windrunner, aggra, mayla highmountain
    I said "important" characters, not C-tier ones. Yes, e.g. Aggra is Thrall’s wife, but no one cares about her, ditto for the other two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    I said "important" characters, not C-tier ones. Yes, e.g. Aggra is Thrall’s wife, but no one cares about her, ditto for the other two.
    so what are you expecting? useless blob that dont do anything before asking to someone else? how they could move anything in the story with these qualities?
    damsel in distress are fucking boring after the first (and who know how many fables and tales we heard since childhood)...
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    Quote Originally Posted by omeomorfismo View Post
    so what are you expecting? useless blob that dont do anything before asking to someone else? how they could move anything in the story with these qualities?
    damsel in distress are fucking boring after the first (and who know how many fables and tales we heard since childhood)...
    Indeed, damsels in distress are as boring as the Strong Independent Women™ portrayed almost everywhere in modern media. The former are boring because are useless blobs, not to mention the implicit sexism. The latter are equally boring because they are 1 dimensional Superman-type heroes, with the personality of a bag of bricks.
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    The Jailer's first ever appearance involved chucking him [Baine] off a cliff for being too shit to even qualify as a Maw trash mob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    The latter are equally boring because they are 1 dimensional Superman-type heroes, with the personality of a bag of bricks.
    So the issue isn't with the character being a strong independent woman then, is it?
    But rather with the quality of the writing as the writers can't be bothered to portray the characters better.
    As, you know, being a strong independent woman does not in fact automatically entail being a one-dimensional golden child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    Indeed, damsels in distress are as boring as the Strong Independent Women™ portrayed almost everywhere in modern media. The former are boring because are useless blobs, not to mention the implicit sexism. The latter are equally boring because they are 1 dimensional Superman-type heroes, with the personality of a bag of bricks.
    so i didnt understand.
    you dont want women to move the story or are you expecting, in vain, different characters (male and female) from a narrative that is basically a cycle between faction war and together against the common enemy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    As, you know, being a strong independent woman does not in fact automatically entail being a one-dimensional golden child.
    It shouldn't, but most of the time it does, in the hands of the current writers. Why is that, I don't know though.
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    The Jailer's first ever appearance involved chucking him [Baine] off a cliff for being too shit to even qualify as a Maw trash mob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    Why is that, I don't know though.
    ... Because they are bad writers.

    What i'm trying to point out is that your critic from earlier is flawed, because the shitty writing is not the result of the progressive trope being used but the terrible execution.

    Sylvanas would still be badly written even if she wasn't a "Strong Independent Women™".
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    Quote Originally Posted by omeomorfismo View Post
    useless windrunner
    she had some nice plot armor and strong independent woman moments in Day of the Dragon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardenaso View Post
    she had some nice plot armor and strong independent woman moments in Day of the Dragon
    i mean, who cares. she is fundamentally a privileged high elf that could say not to the life tap because her husband could feed her with arcane trinkets. she is basically Marie-Antoinette warcraft edition :|
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    I want Sylvanas to have the upper hand in the fight and Zovaal to turn on her and kill her.

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    Tyrande "where is ma beloved???" is a parody since Legion

    I hope Sylvanas erase her but as she's alliance she won't.

  15. #355
    Pretty sure they're going to be putting Sylvanas on a redemption arc, and then "we'll get to find out who is really behind this".

  16. #356
    Sylvanas dying? They didn't kill Denathrius and you think they'll off Sylvanas? If anything she will join us against the Jailer, and in the end rule over Shadowlands.

  17. #357
    Bold to assume fanboy Danuser would kill off his waifu pillow queen.

    But anyway, I'd think it would be hilarious if Arthas killed her off a second time. No reconciliation, no 'times change', just kill her off a second time because f*ck her. And then piss on her grave.

    Forsaken shouldn't ever have been part of the Horde anyway, it was a last minute change in Vanilla WoW over Goblins. Get these edgelords out of here.

  18. #358
    Sylvanas will be forgiven like Grommash and the Jailer will be 1-shot by an ion beam like N'zoth, after building him up over months or years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    I said "important" characters, not C-tier ones. Yes, e.g. Aggra is Thrall’s wife, but no one cares about her, ditto for the other two.
    Every important WoW character is independent. Not just the women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ornias View Post
    Sylvanas will be forgiven like Grommash and the Jailer will be 1-shot by an ion beam like N'zoth, after building him up over months or years.
    Seems like you just haven't been paying attention, then.

  20. #360
    Quote Originally Posted by HighlordJohnstone View Post
    Every important WoW character is independent. Not just the women.
    Baine is not independent, we need to safe him from death almost every exp pack and in WC3 aswell.
    Thrall is also not independent he is crying on every turn and needs people to tell him what to do and get his act together.

    Just two Horde main characters that are not independent but weak.
    Last edited by tromage2; 2021-03-02 at 02:51 PM.

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