View Poll Results: Who lands the killing blow

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  • Thrall

    5 1.54%
  • Tyrande

    116 35.69%
  • DK Anduin

    33 10.15%
  • Sylvanas kills herself to deny them justice

    70 21.54%
  • Bolvar

    5 1.54%
  • Player Character

    21 6.46%
  • Jaina

    1 0.31%
  • Baine

    6 1.85%
  • Zovaal

    45 13.85%
  • Arthas

    18 5.54%
  • Ysera

    5 1.54%
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  1. #361
    Quote Originally Posted by The Council View Post
    i didnt claim anything.
    I am only pointed out that Sylvanas did not destroy her kingdom. she only blew up a city.
    She also only destroyed 1 kingdom and that was the Night elves.
    Following a city is not a kingdom she didn't even do that. Their tree was not "their kingdom" as they also had other regions that were a part of what would be considered their territory. She destroyed cities, not kingdoms.

  2. #362
    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    Sylvanas is the 2nd most iconic character in the franchise behind Arthas, who is the most popular and most iconic character of the franchise.
    She's loved by the community both the vocal majority and silent majority. Blizzard is smart using her. She brings the money
    Sylvanas is more Iconic than Illidan and Jaina???

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohwell View Post
    Following a city is not a kingdom she didn't even do that. Their tree was not "their kingdom" as they also had other regions that were a part of what would be considered their territory. She destroyed cities, not kingdoms.
    The Horde marched through Ashenvale and slaughtered everyone, including civilians. We walk through Astranaar and find every last civilians killed. The bulk of the Night Elf population after the Third War left Hyjal and lived in Ashenvale and Darnassus with most moving out of Darkshore after the Cataclysm destroyed the largest population center there and ruined the local infrastructure. So yeah, she destroyed their kingdom.


    Anyway Arthas lands the killing blow. Because he is probably the soul used as a core for DK Anduin's mourneblade.
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  3. #363
    Quote Originally Posted by tromage2 View Post
    Baine is not independent, we need to safe him from death almost every exp pack and in WC3 aswell.
    Thrall is also not independent he is crying on every turn and needs people to tell him what to do and get his act together.

    Just two Horde main characters that are not independent but weak.
    ehi, this sound exactly like tyrande xD
    and damn, baine was the most useless leader until his treason in bfa, where he is acting "powerfull and indipendent" like everyone else...
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  4. #364
    Why is it that the tauren alwsys seem to be the rest of the horde's bitch? The writing continues to describe them as some sort of 5th wheel. They get little respect, seen as weak... I always wondered why they haven't joined the Alliance? The Night Elves have a connection through druidism and share teachers.
    Just rambling...

  5. #365
    Quote Originally Posted by Araevin View Post
    Sylvanas is more Iconic than Illidan and Jaina???

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    Anyway Arthas lands the killing blow. Because he is probably the soul used as a core for DK Anduin's mourneblade.
    Naw, she'll sacrifice herself to save Anduin or something. Anduin in turn will break or destroy the sword.

    We'll get a small glimpse of Arthas being released. Maybe a moment between him and Uther where he can't look Uther in the eyes. And Uther see's nothing but the scared weak person Arthas was - or he'll finally "ascend" and move passed his past life. Ultimately forgiving Arthas. Arthas then fades away or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Why is it that the tauren alwsys seem to be the rest of the horde's bitch? The writing continues to describe them as some sort of 5th wheel. They get little respect, seen as weak... I always wondered why they haven't joined the Alliance? The Night Elves have a connection through druidism and share teachers.
    Just rambling...
    Orcs, trolls, undead, goblins, etc. Are all fairly warmongering groups. Tauren are not. They were getting attacked by Quillboar and Centaurs for years before we found them in WC3. So they've been in constant conflict for the last 15+ years. Now that they generally aren't in a constant state of conflict. They are just trying to be peaceful. That's my take on it
    Last edited by Potatowizard; 2021-03-04 at 05:15 PM.

  6. #366
    Quote Originally Posted by Araevin View Post
    Sylvanas is more Iconic than Illidan and Jaina???

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    The Horde marched through Ashenvale and slaughtered everyone, including civilians. We walk through Astranaar and find every last civilians killed. The bulk of the Night Elf population after the Third War left Hyjal and lived in Ashenvale and Darnassus with most moving out of Darkshore after the Cataclysm destroyed the largest population center there and ruined the local infrastructure. So yeah, she destroyed their kingdom.


    Anyway Arthas lands the killing blow. Because he is probably the soul used as a core for DK Anduin's mourneblade.
    Night Elf kingdom isn't 2 towns and a city. Much less the attack was purely instigated by the Alliance anyway. Why did Darkshore and Darnassus send the army to Silithus? Oh that's right they heard the horde was sending more forces to gather Azerite when they hadn't even done anything with it to the Alliance. So if anything the whole thing really just cements that the Alliance was the one chomping at the bit to go to war.

  7. #367
    Malganis will kill her and at the time of her third death she will usher at the coming of the rest of the dreadlords

  8. #368
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    Sylvanas is the 2nd most iconic character in the franchise.
    Lolno. Those could be Illidan, Jaina, Thrall, maybe even Azshara. Sylv doesn't even come close.
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    WoD was the expansion that was targeted at non raiders.

  9. #369
    Quote Originally Posted by Kithelle View Post
    But that's the Kingdom of Lordaeron...never once has it ever been referred to as "The Kingdom of Undercity", but Stormwind is a city and a kingdom
    not a good example really... they still call it them kingdoms of alterac, stromgarde and theramore despite no people established living in them

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickybrighteyes View Post
    not a good example really... they still call it them kingdoms of alterac, stromgarde and theramore despite no people established living in them
    to be fair Danath Trollbane has returned and assumed control
    The Alliance gets the Horde's most popular race. The Horde should get the Alliance's most popular race in return. Alteraci Humans for the Horde!

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  11. #371
    She won't die - that's the bigger elephant in the room.

  12. #372
    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    I'm still waiting for Arthas to willingly ally himself with the Jailer, tbf.
    Are you sure she WILLINGLY ally herself ? Asking for friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Council View Post
    as i will point out again.
    Arthas did worse and people want to redeem him
    Arthas was a pawn of greater powers he didn't understand. Sylvannas knows exactly what she's doing and who's she's sided with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Depakote View Post
    Arthas was a pawn of greater powers he didn't understand. Sylvannas knows exactly what she's doing and who's she's sided with.
    She doesn't seem to understand anything. Why allying herself with the guy who is ultimately responsible for her personal ordeal? Why further empowering him, and voluntarily so, on top? That would be some epic Titanforged levels of masochism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    She doesn't seem to understand anything. Why allying herself with the guy who is ultimately responsible for her personal ordeal? Why further empowering him, and voluntarily so, on top? That would be some epic Titanforged levels of masochism.
    Because she sees herself as a victim and that by burning Darnassus that she was setting them free from an unjust system when in reality it was only her flawed point of view that she was imposing on others. It's typical victim complex.

  16. #376
    Quote Originally Posted by Soon-TM View Post
    She doesn't seem to understand anything. Why allying herself with the guy who is ultimately responsible for her personal ordeal? Why further empowering him, and voluntarily so, on top? That would be some epic Titanforged levels of masochism.
    Unironically Sylvanas being a masochist who's into this for fetish-related reasons would be more charitable to the character. Compare the likely canonical version of her just being a mouthbreathing moron who inexplicably trusts the Devil despite him living in a giant spiky tower torturing guilty and innocent alike and employing the same people who got her to this point in the first place. At least that version has some agency.
    Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.

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  17. #377
    Quote Originally Posted by Ardenaso View Post
    to be fair Danath Trollbane has returned and assumed control
    a bit of story progression from the same school of thought as the dev's sylvanas bits and the Silverhand orderhall split that wasn't mentioned. Stromgarde was taken over by undead and then purged and then somehow used as a neutral meeting area to see another massacre before it's later use as a warfront base with alternating leadership.

  18. #378
    Tyrande, Sylvanas killing herself to spite us, and DK Anduin in descending order is about what I expected too. Though Tyrande got the Nathanos kill.

    Still want my headcanon of using the powers of the afterlife, rezzing her repeatedly so everyone she's slighted can get in line. The night elves can have her blood to write that peace treaty if my forsaken forsaken can eat her brains.
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    Having the authority to do a thing doesn't make it just, moral, or even correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powerogue View Post
    my forsaken forsaken can eat her brains.
    I guess that dude/dudette is going to starve, poor thing. Sylv's brain must be the size of a pea - assuming she even has one.
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  20. #380
    Quote Originally Posted by fakaroonie View Post
    Either retire her as a trapped soul forever or just have Zappyboi kill her. FOR SAURFANG!
    Killing Saurfang was the most just and noble thing she ever did in her existance though. Saurfang was a monster without empathy or reasoning. He literally murdered children because he thought it brings him honor.

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