Lack of Information in What's next panel is disturbing

[Saninicus]

I agree that this is what it seems like they are doing.

But honestly it's kind of of a disservice to the players on retail. I have no interest in classic nor spend any time in it. I do think COVID affected the whole production pipeline and honestly I wouldn't mind that they come upfront and say that this affected everything even the new patches.

I think 9.0.5 is a really good support patch but only having 9.1 in July/August is a bit worrying especially since this expac as a whole we didn't see any new class or race at all

While I don't doubt TBC will have much more staying power than classic. It still will bottom out. Retail however still has a slew of problems from faction imbalance to completely fan fiction writing.

[Tiradon]

While I don't doubt TBC will have much more staying power than classic. It still will bottom out. Retail however still has a slew of problems from faction imbalance to completely fan fiction writing.

Yeah I agree with your points the faction imbalance is a big issue for us and the reason we ain't chasing Mythic Raiding and instead focus on M+. The storyline... well don't let me get started on that

[cparle87]

If they are delayed they need to just get up and say it.

Not to bring up the competition, but multiple times now the FF14 devs have come out and said "look there's a pandemic, we're trying to work from home, but production is slow because X, Y, and Z so we're going to have delays." Hell they just delayed essentially an entire "raid" by what's likely going to be a year because they can't have it done in time for their next patch and they aren't going to drop it alongside an expansion launch. And you know what? Players are understanding for the most part.

Meanwhile WoW just shoves stuff out the door like "nothing to see here we are not impacted."

Or maybe they give their playerbase too much credit in making the assumption that said playerbase knows things are messed up because of the pandemic and don't believe they need to remind them and hold their hands for the 50th time like the FF14 ones do. Reminds me of a time this psycho accosted a guy in the restaraunt I was eating at, accusing him of being a Nazi because he didn't explicitly say he wasn't.

[crusadernero]

They showcased us whats in store for the next patch. Nothing about how the whole of SL will shape out regards on patches etc. They didnt even give us a date. If they were confident last weekend on a date, they would have given it. Since we got no date, we should expect a date announement sometime late March or at latest during April.

We got very little, wich came as an surprise cause 9.1 shouldnt really be that far off. I seriously thought 9.1 would be on PTR shortly after BLizzconline.

Personally I have unsubbed(or letting my sub run out, ends in 6 days), and seems like I did a smart choice. Theres nothing new coming in a while for wow, and from my experience is better to take a long break from the game than just keep playing. The end result is just a pure hatred for the game lol

[Lolites]

Sorry, you can look up the dates and patch notes, .1 patches have been within the first 3-4 months with raids.

x.1 patches throughout history:

BC - over 4 months
WOTLK - over 5 months
cata - over 4 months but NO RAID, raid 6 months after release
panda - 2 months but NO RAID, raid 6 months after release
wod - 3 months but NO RAID, raid 7 months after release
legion - 2 months but NO RAID, raid 7 months after release
bfa - 7 months after release

so NO EXPANSION EVER had x.1 patch in 3-4 months (TBC was close) with raid...
seems like its not HIM who should look up dates before spewing bullshit...

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Classic showed them how massive the surge of old and returing players was, neither 8.2 nor 8.3 stood a chance against that.

classic also shown them massive outflow that anything couldnt compare to, MAYBE wod, maybe

[slime]

No addressing of the anima issue, no word on sanctum building stuff. Worrying.

I didn't realize there was an anima issue until I capped on souls last night and need like 7k anima for an upgrade.
Hmm seems weird that now I literally can do nothing with souls (until I get the 7k anima) and they are a major weekly renown quest tied to soul acquisition since day 1 of SL.

I can't really come up with a reason why souls are capped. We can only get 5,10,15, or 20 a week anyhow. What big brain over at Blizz thought this made any sense what-so-ever?

[Tiradon]

I didn't realize there was an anima issue until I capped on souls last night and need like 7k anima for an upgrade.
Hmm seems weird that now I literally can do nothing with souls (until I get the 7k anima) and they are a major weekly renown quest tied to soul acquisition since day 1 of SL.

I can't really come up with a reason why souls are capped. We can only get 5,10,15, or 20 a week anyhow. What big brain over at Blizz thought this made any sense what-so-ever?

I believe the answer is to keep players subscribed to play

[Saninicus]

I believe the answer is to keep players subscribed to play

Valor if done correctly (with my current confidence in blizzard I highly doubt them actually do it right) would be a better choice to keep people playing. The current design showed flaws in BFA. Them using more borrowed power sites they didn't learn.

[Nyel]

x.1 patches throughout history:

BC - over 4 months
WOTLK - over 5 months
cata - over 4 months but NO RAID, raid 6 months after release
panda - 2 months but NO RAID, raid 6 months after release
wod - 3 months but NO RAID, raid 7 months after release
legion - 2 months but NO RAID, raid 7 months after release
bfa - 7 months after release

so NO EXPANSION EVER had x.1 patch in 3-4 months (TBC was close) with raid...
seems like its not HIM who should look up dates before spewing bullshit...

Back in Cataclysm, MoP and even WoD those dumb .x.5 patches didn't exist and raid releases always corresponded with .x patch releases, so your argument is pretty weak. Legion started this nonsense with the small in between patches.

And we don't even know when the raid in 9.1 will open - it could be the same as with 7.3 where Antorus was unlocked three months after the patch release (no, not in 7.3.5). Who really expects Sanctum of Domination to open the same day as the patch goes live?

classic also shown them massive outflow that anything couldnt compare to, MAYBE wod, maybe

You mean like as it's been happening in BfA and is already happening in Shadowlands?

[Lolites]

Back in Cataclysm, MoP and even WoD those dumb .x.5 patches didn't exist and raid releases always corresponded with .x patch releases, so your argument is pretty weak.

i suggest you check what i responded to, bcs you obviously have no clue, as what you pointed out shows raids open even LATER, not 3-4 months after expansion as the guy i responded to claimed... so you strenghtened my point...

[Osmeric]

I wonder if the pandemic messed things up by opening up their employees to being swiped more easily. I mean, if you're working remotely, it doesn't really matter where the employer is, so now Blizzard has to worry not just about game companies in S. California, but anywhere.

[Lolites]

You mean like as it's been happening in BfA and is already happening in Shadowlands?

and you base this on your ass? or do you have ANYTHING that would at least suggest massive outflow of people from retail?
bcs on classic we can see it on realms, there was dozens of full and high servers, now there are 2-3 high and rest is medium (at least in europe) or even low, some realms are ghost towns... unless you are biased as hell you can literaly SEE how the number of players fell...

[Osmeric]

or do you have ANYTHING that would at least suggest massive outflow of people from retail?

I massively flowed out of retail. Darned quarantine weight gain. But hey, at least my BMI is just high enough now to qualify for a vaccine!