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    Exclamation Shadowlands M+ Keystone Counts Cheatsheet

    Here's a list of count thresholds to hit by certain checkpoints for various keystones.

    There are some addons and WAs that already have this data (and it's obviously unnecessary if you're doing a preplanned route) but I wanted a basic cheatsheet when just winging the path on sub-10 keys.


    Plaguefall
    84.5% before you drop to last boss if skipping downstairs slimes
    If you need them, each of the downstairs slimes is worth exactly 1% and there are three of them

    Spires of Ascension
    87.4% before you go up to last boss

    Halls of Atonement
    79.5% before second boss if Venthyr present
    If no Venthyr, Loyal bat mobs are worth 1.5% and there are two you can do

    Sanguine Depths
    69% before dropping to third boss
    If you need extra, flyby bats are worth 1.1%.


    De Other Side
    89.6% before dropping the waterfall after dragon in Ardenweald area, if skipping the downstairs stealth/cranes
    If you need it, the stealth pack on the ramp after the waterfall is worth 1.6%
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    Necrotic Wake
    68.2% before heading up to third boss

    Mists of Tirna Scithe
    n/a - just make up count needed before last boss on extra bugs around last boss

    Theatre of Pain
    n/a - almost impossible to be under count


    I figured I'd share the numbers in case it is useful to other people who do keystones but don't feel the need to actually plan a route. Based on the number of PuGs I do who are grossly under or over count in various dungeons, I am going to guess that it might be helpful.


    Edit: Here weakaura that prints some of this data https://wago.io/_PCyfyfoR. This is NOT MY WEAKAURA. I'm just listing because people might find it useful and it serves a similar function.
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    TY, good stuff!
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    Nice.

    Sure for SD? AFAIK, 70 % before going to 3rd boss is enough, and I think the real threshold is a bit lower, around 69.5 %.

    Gonna check on my MDT tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naville View Post
    Nice.

    Sure for SD? AFAIK, 70 % before going to 3rd boss is enough, and I think the real threshold is a bit lower, around 69.5 %.

    Gonna check on my MDT tonight.
    I did all the counts with a route planner but I must have misclicked something because you're correct.

    The trash in the whole section after the boss -- not counting the flyby bats -- is worth exactly 31%. I'll update accordingly. Thanks!

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    I fucking love you. Is it possible to make a wa from this as a reminder? I know my brain isn't capable of remembering this stuff until the next dungeon ><

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    Quote Originally Posted by BondGirl View Post
    I fucking love you. Is it possible to make a wa from this as a reminder? I know my brain isn't capable of remembering this stuff until the next dungeon ><
    My weakaura skills are primarily limited to making them call me names when an important buff falls off, but there is a WA that exists that does part of this already: https://wago.io/_PCyfyfoR I've never used it but I have several friends that do. I don't entirely love the places it marks as checkpoints and it's missing some of the places I have the hardest time with, but it'll probably work for you!

    The best I could probably make myself is just something that puts those numbers somewhere on your screen when you zone in to the appropriate dungeon, but isn't smart about updating dynamically based on count or area you're in. The one I linked is probably much nicer!
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    Thanks a lot mate, that really helps if you don't know the routes by heart

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    NOW I love you even more. Thanks for the link

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    Quote Originally Posted by BondGirl View Post
    NOW I love you even more. Thanks for the link
    BTW tested that WA tonight and it's pretty good. I endorse whoever made it.

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    There was a hotfix a few weeks ago that makes the flying sentinels before Kaal worth % too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KyleEverett View Post
    There was a hotfix a few weeks ago that makes the flying sentinels before Kaal worth % too.
    Nice, it was super weird they didn't, so I figured it was a bug. Routeplanners still seem to have 0%, but I'll update if someone knows their count.

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    awesome, thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tziva View Post
    BTW tested that WA tonight and it's pretty good. I endorse whoever made it.
    Can confirm that. did 6 m+ tonight and the % was accurate.

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    In halls of atonement you always want 80% before echolon.
    And In sanguine depths they patched the flying sentinels to always give percentages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GnomeEU View Post
    In halls of atonement you always want 80% before echolon.
    And In sanguine depths they patched the flying sentinels to always give percentages.
    Good point, I updated HoA to clarify percentage based on whether or not you are killing the bats before the third boss or a Venthyr is taming them because that's the reason for the discrepancy.

    As far as the Sentinels, you're the second person to mention that (I didn't know!) but no one so far has known the percentage for me to update it, and sites like keystone.guru still have them at zero. If you know, please let me know and I will happily update my numbers for folks.

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    Useful thread. Giving it a bump. Deserves a sticky
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