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    Quote Originally Posted by Grube View Post
    If they think they can improve Darnold, a 2nd would be worth it.
    This kind of hubris that leads to lost draft picks, big dead money, and lateral moves is why certain teams never really contend.

    Also worth mentioning this means another early QB pick getting thrown to the wolves immediately by the Jets, they don't seem to ever figure it out either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grube View Post
    Bridgewater sucks and 6th round picks don't make rosters a lot of the times unless they can play special teams well. If they think they can improve Darnold, a 2nd would be worth it. Especially if they can find a team dumb enough to trade for Bridgewater to recoup some of it. His contract is terrible this year.

    They also picked up Darnold's 5th year option, so the chances of him not being the starter sound low.

    Zach Wilson also seems like the type of QB to bust. The ones that gain a lot of traction during the pre-draft process don't have the best history. It is a coin flip though.
    I've noticed Zach Wilson and other tools-y QBs (like Trey Lance) have had their stocks go up significantly with the success of Josh Allen and Justin Herbert. I wonder if we're entering an era where the toolsy QB (notorious in the past for busting) can actually be reliably developed by smart QB coaches. I was watching some of the science shit Jordan Palmer was doing with Allen last offseason, and it's borderline science fiction, 6 million dollar man stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draynay View Post
    This kind of hubris that leads to lost draft picks, big dead money, and lateral moves is why certain teams never really contend.

    Also worth mentioning this means another early QB pick getting thrown to the wolves immediately by the Jets, they don't seem to ever figure it out either.
    TBF, I have a lot more confidence in Robert Saleh, and I remember liking the OC pick (though I can't remember who it is at the moment) at the time. I knew Gase was a shitshow before he was even fired from the Dolphins, and dismissed the Jets immediately when they hired him.

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    It'll be interesting to see Darnold without that shitstain for a coach, Gase.

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    I didn't feel Darnold was trash.. mostly because of the Jets and their reputation for USC QBs. I'll give it a few years in Carolina before I make a decision on what I think of Darnold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vetali View Post
    I didn't feel Darnold was trash.. mostly because of the Jets and their reputation for USC QBs. I'll give it a few years in Carolina before I make a decision on what I think of Darnold.
    I mean he has one thing going for him.

    As soon as Tannehill left Miami he unseated Marcus Mariota and took the Titans to the playoffs.

    Now he's left Adam Gase, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    I mean he has one thing going for him.

    As soon as Tannehill left Miami he unseated Marcus Mariota and took the Titans to the playoffs.

    Now he's left Adam Gase, too.
    Yeah Adam Gase kills talent. Even though Tannehill has been feasting off play action, its been successful because of how much of a threat Henry is.

    Problem with the Panthers is they are also in a rebuild. Thats why I said a few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vetali View Post
    Yeah Adam Gase kills talent. Even though Tannehill has been feasting off play action, its been successful because of how much of a threat Henry is.

    Problem with the Panthers is they are also in a rebuild. Thats why I said a few years.
    The panthers still have a safety blanket of CMC for Darnold. I expect him to feast this year, to build Sam's confidence again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    I will forever say the logical end point for them is St. Louis.

    They weren't a bad NFL city, and they had a perfectly good stadium proposal on the table. The Rams just never had any intention of staying.
    Please no, the AFC West having two teams in Missouri and none on the West Coast would be tragic. Time to shake up the divisions if that happens.

    Frankly just merge the Chargers and the Rams and create a new franchise, let's finally have the London Sillynannies.

    Then redesign the divisions because they really don't make sense anymore.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Goblin View Post
    Please no, the AFC West having two teams in Missouri and none on the West Coast would be tragic. Time to shake up the divisions if that happens.

    Frankly just merge the Chargers and the Rams and create a new franchise, let's finally have the London Sillynannies.

    Then redesign the divisions because they really don't make sense anymore.
    Only if they keep the Chargers branding because the Rams lost their rights to exist with those unis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    Only if they keep the Chargers branding because the Rams lost their rights to exist with those unis.
    Not even sure the Chargers have a brand, they're a team with barely any fans and no success to live off. Let them die, merge the two rosters and maybe LA will have a team to give a toss about rather than jumping on the I-15 to Vegas.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Goblin View Post
    Not even sure the Chargers have a brand, they're a team with barely any fans and no success to live off. Let them die, merge the two rosters and maybe LA will have a team to give a toss about rather than jumping on the I-15 to Vegas.
    They have a lightning bolt and the color powder blue. Which honestly is more than the Rams have going in those departments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Goblin View Post
    Please no, the AFC West having two teams in Missouri and none on the West Coast would be tragic. Time to shake up the divisions if that happens.

    Frankly just merge the Chargers and the Rams and create a new franchise, let's finally have the London Sillynannies.

    Then redesign the divisions because they really don't make sense anymore.
    The NFL doesn't have a very good history of division alignments making any sense. The NFC west before the realignment in 2002 had the Saints, Falcons and Panthers, and the Saints and Falcons were there for over 30 years. Plus the Cardinals stayed in the east after they moved to Arizona (and they would have made more sense in the central than east to begin with). The AFC mostly made sense, but the NFC was a mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grube View Post
    The NFL doesn't have a very good history of division alignments making any sense. The NFC west before the realignment in 2002 had the Saints, Falcons and Panthers, and the Saints and Falcons were there for over 30 years. Plus the Cardinals stayed in the east after they moved to Arizona (and they would have made more sense in the central than east to begin with). The AFC mostly made sense, but the NFC was a mess.
    Also, would have to wait until Jerry Jones is not in the picture again. Or just say meh and move Dallas out of the NFC East and the intense rivalries.

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    For the divisions to actually make sense, a few old rivalries will probably have to die. Both the AFC and NFC East divisions would get reworked, especially if you add in any international franchises, they'd have to be in an east coast division just for the short transatlantic flights.

    Looking at a map of all 32 teams, there's a massive imbalance towards the East Coast, to the point where Dallas is the 8th most western franchise in the NFL. But there's also a ton of states in the middle heading west which frankly wouldn't host an NFL team, maybe New Mexico at best?


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    NFC East will never, ever, ever, EVER be broken up. Not only are the rivalries historic and heated, but they are each in huge markets. DFW / NYC / Phil / DC area are huge money makers. Theyd lose a lot fo money breaking that up, so geogrpahical logistics can get fucked.

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    Well baseball has west, central, and east. The AL west has 2 Texas teams in it. Geographical locations are basically irrelevant in most the sports I follow.

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    Let's just put the Chargers in STL, move them to the AFC South, and then kick the Texans to the AFC West. Ain't nobody in their divisions gonna miss them.
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    Chargers couldn't afford one relocation fee, they're not gonna pay another.

    The one thing driving me away as a potential Chargers fan is the Spanos family, a clean slate would be nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by draynay View Post
    Chargers couldn't afford one relocation fee, they're not gonna pay another.

    The one thing driving me away as a potential Chargers fan is the Spanos family, a clean slate would be nice.
    There's apparently a court case that could force a sale. Don't know if it's a case with legs or not, but hey maybe you'll get that.

    Certainly I think 99% of NFL Fans would like the Chargers to just get a clean slate fresh start.
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    Josh Allen said something dumb in an interview and now I'm so fucking tired and exhausted.

    Find me a cannon and shoot me into the fucking sun.

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