2021-2022 NFL Thread

[downnola]

You and I have a very different definition of "trash." Teams are not just good or Trash. Texans, Steelers, and Patriots are not trash teams.

It's a really odd way to describe teams winning ugly, too. Good teams win ugly games that bad teams always lose. That's what separates them from poorly organized and coached teams. Very few teams ever dominate an entire season and win the Super Bowl without a couple of them. There will always be some ugly wins sprinkled in there, especially when you're without key players due to injury.

[draynay]

It's a really odd way to describe teams winning ugly, too. Good teams win ugly games that bad teams always lose. That's what separates them from poorly organized and coached teams. Very few teams ever dominate an entire season and win the Super Bowl without a couple of them. There will always be some ugly wins sprinkled in there, especially when you're without key players due to injury.

Winning ugly is better than losing ugly, to the Jaguars.

[Crissi]

Or Dax. But it's always great to see the Cowboys leave the playoffs with their tails between their legs.

He's a good QB. Not elite, but still good. We are much more likely to end up with a shitty QB than a better one if we move on from him. The failure last night was team wide (including him). So many penalties form an undisciplined team.

I love it when people don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

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If Jerry really wants to win he'll fire McCarthy immediately and go after Eric Bieniemy. Cowboys are going nowhere with McCarthy as their HC.

I know enough of Bieniemy's past that that's a giant NOPE from me.

[Crissi]

I’d drop Zeke sooner than Dak considering his diminished production.

yeah, Pollard is more promising. Sucks cause I love Zeke but he isnt gonna get any better. Although apparently he was playing with a partially torn PCL. As someone thats sprained / partially tore my MCL back in November...oof

[Darththeo]

It's a really odd way to describe teams winning ugly, too. Good teams win ugly games that bad teams always lose. That's what separates them from poorly organized and coached teams. Very few teams ever dominate an entire season and win the Super Bowl without a couple of them. There will always be some ugly wins sprinkled in there, especially when you're without key players due to injury.

Honestly, the only thing the Patriots were trash at this season was stopping the run ... if the Patriots in 2021 is trash, you essentially are arguing most of the league is trash. Makes me wonder how someone can be a fan of the NFL if they think most teams are trash.

[draynay]

I’d drop Zeke sooner than Dak considering his diminished production.

It would make sense except his salary next year is guaranteed and I doubt there will be much of a trade market for a $12mil RB with his production. He's still young and hopefully can get healthy and bounce back, Dallas certainly has to hope so due to financials.

I suppose he could restructure after a trade, I just don't know who would make such a trade. Maybe the Rams since they're nuts

[Northern Goblin]

If I'm too subtle NG won't know what I'm doing. The point is to keep fueling his hatred. Besides subtlety takes too much time and too much thinking on the weekend. I just want to watch some football, and play some videogames, and no think too hard about things like work, covid and losing 47-17 against the fucking Bills.

You have all the subtlety of an NFL ref covering their ass after a shitty call.

Well played though.

[ProphetFlume]

I’d drop Zeke sooner than Dak considering his diminished production.

Yeah I’m surprised no one has talked about this yet. I mentioned earlier in the season I forgot zeke was still active.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

If Jerry really wants to win he'll fire McCarthy immediately and go after Eric Bieniemy. Cowboys are going nowhere with McCarthy as their HC.

It's Jerry so he'll fire McCarthy, lose Quinn to Denver, and promote Kellen Moore because he loves his ex-Players.

Jason Garrett all over again.

[PhaelixWW]

Well. Stephen A. Smith certainly had, uh, a few things to say this morning.

Entirely expected, of course.

[draynay]

And Dak literally just signed a contract with over $120M guaranteed on it in September. Hence, Zeke before Dak.

That was my previous post on the subject.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Mayock officially out in Vegas. Not necessarily a surprise given he was involved in their horrendous draft strategy of the Gruden years.

Of course Vegas' vacancies are in the news once again which means naturally time for everyone to associate them with Jim Harbaugh again.

[draynay]

Mayock officially out in Vegas. Not necessarily a surprise given he was involved in their horrendous draft strategy of the Gruden years.

Of course Vegas' vacancies are in the news once again which means naturally time for everyone to associate them with Jim Harbaugh again.

Not too surprising, absolute disasters from a character standpoint overshadow some good late round picks.

I did appreciate Mayock's quick trigger on releasing problem players, but he sure did bring in a lot of problem players.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Not too surprising, absolute disasters from a character standpoint overshadow some good late round picks.

I did appreciate Mayock's quick trigger on releasing problem players, but he sure did bring in a lot of problem players.

I'd have liked to have seen how he drafted without Gruden. But the fact the Raiders didn't want to should probably say that he wanted to continue the "character guys" picks.

[Pendulous]

A neutral observer and two fun teams to watch, hopefully a good game. Probably pushing for the Rams a bit more if nothing else for Matt Stafford.

[draynay]

I'm just here for the Manningcast.

[Logwyn]

A neutral observer and two fun teams to watch, hopefully a good game. Probably pushing for the Rams a bit more if nothing else for Matt Stafford.

Who has the best chance to beat Shady and Tampa? The Cards or Rams? That's who we want to win!

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Oh, we are. It’s just that we won so it’s not in the front of discussion currently.

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Not sure how anyone can write him (or any QB under Nagy) off so quickly.

Followed the kid in high school he lacks something.

[ProphetFlume]

Eli always looks like the quiet kid dressed up for dinner with visiting relatives trying not to reveal he just smoked a bowl.

[PhaelixWW]

-4 yards in the first four possessions...

Things don't look good for the Cardinals.

[Beefhammer]

He's a good QB. Not elite, but still good. We are much more likely to end up with a shitty QB than a better one if we move on from him. The failure last night was team wide (including him). So many penalties form an undisciplined team.

I love it when people don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

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I know enough of Bieniemy's past that that's a giant NOPE from me.

He's like Stafford. He can't win the big games when it counts. You can save this post, Dax will never make it to the SB, let alone win one.