Poll: Who gets Dragonspine Trophy?

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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Grimreaper View Post
    Slamming warriors deffo benefit way more from DST than anybody else.
    As %delta i agree. But for raw dps with %uptime taken into account, its debatable.
    Some people think rape threats are acceptable, smh.

    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    The same reason why you are calling a "rape threat" online from a complete stranger as harassment? Why wouldn't you shrug that off when it has 0% chance of actually happening?

  2. #62
    enhancement shaman, clearly

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    I have actually been wondering about this. I hope to do Gruul's Lair eventually with my alt rogue, but haven't even thought about DST; for the simple fact that I was under the impression that rogues require 28% hit for all white damage to get through. But if it's an unattainable amount, and it makes a lot more sense to have the most hit you can from gear but with agility gems and haste from different sources: then that places DST much higher than I had originally realised.

    Is there some current theorycrafting around that compares different levels of +hit with +haste and attack power? *Should* you compromise, as a rogue, on +hit in lieu of better stats such as agility and haste? And at what point do you let your hit drop: 24% > 22% > 20%?! In order to put out more theoretical damage.

    I guess what I'm truly wondering here is the value of haste when you have a certain number of average misses. Does this much haste more than make up for those white misses? I was going to stack as many hit gems and as much hit from gear as possible—but understanding comparisons like that will help me to rethink this.
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    It's just a piece of loot that's going to drop a bunch in the future, it's good but honestly people take this whole "who should get it" shit way too seriously.

    If you are doing well enough to kill Gruul regularly, you aren't hurting.

    Who should it go to? The person with the highest main-spec roll, or highest DKP/whatever point; however you run your shit. Nothing else needs to factor into it, honestly.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by munkeyinorbit View Post
    Hunters easily make the most use out of it. Hunters>who cares about the others
    Id never give to a hunter over a war or a rogue tbh

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Vampyrr View Post
    Id never give to a hunter over a war or a rogue tbh
    Hunter uptime on fights is far better than any melee. More haste means more FI or EW uptime as well.
    Some people think rape threats are acceptable, smh.

    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    The same reason why you are calling a "rape threat" online from a complete stranger as harassment? Why wouldn't you shrug that off when it has 0% chance of actually happening?

  7. #67
    if they're lootwhores, they will quit after getting their loot because there is nothing left for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrea View Post
    It's just a piece of loot that's going to drop a bunch in the future, it's good but honestly people take this whole "who should get it" shit way too seriously.

    If you are doing well enough to kill Gruul regularly, you aren't hurting.

    Who should it go to? The person with the highest main-spec roll, or highest DKP/whatever point; however you run your shit. Nothing else needs to factor into it, honestly.
    you dont understand: the autismos need to minmax this 15 year old solved game with pissbaby tier raids.

  8. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by zenkaiboost View Post
    if they're lootwhores, they will quit after getting their loot because there is nothing left for them.

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    you dont understand: the autismos need to minmax this 15 year old solved game with pissbaby tier raids.
    Care to link your vashj and KT logs?
    Some people think rape threats are acceptable, smh.

    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    The same reason why you are calling a "rape threat" online from a complete stranger as harassment? Why wouldn't you shrug that off when it has 0% chance of actually happening?

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Geckomayhem View Post
    I have actually been wondering about this. I hope to do Gruul's Lair eventually with my alt rogue, but haven't even thought about DST; for the simple fact that I was under the impression that rogues require 28% hit for all white damage to get through. But if it's an unattainable amount, and it makes a lot more sense to have the most hit you can from gear but with agility gems and haste from different sources: then that places DST much higher than I had originally realised.

    Is there some current theorycrafting around that compares different levels of +hit with +haste and attack power? *Should* you compromise, as a rogue, on +hit in lieu of better stats such as agility and haste? And at what point do you let your hit drop: 24% > 22% > 20%?! In order to put out more theoretical damage.

    I guess what I'm truly wondering here is the value of haste when you have a certain number of average misses. Does this much haste more than make up for those white misses? I was going to stack as many hit gems and as much hit from gear as possible—but understanding comparisons like that will help me to rethink this.
    this is what stat weights and sims are for

  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by WaltherLeopold View Post
    Rogues scale the hardest with haste, I don't think 1,5-2k~ DPS in t4 is all that bad, I don't know how they fare into t5, but hunters are very overrated at this point in time.
    Locks are doing 1.5k-2k. ST. Rogues are not.

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