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    Quote Originally Posted by ghotihook View Post
    Yea I mean in hindsight the DNR probably should have issued half of whatever they did, and if they didn't reach their quota released more. But I think they were trying to get the culling done asap. But the fact they decided to do culling in the first place means they think there was too many. It's not like the wolves are now in danger of going extinct or anything. It's just a very unfortunate poor estimations.

    I mean there is the whole or part about the culling being done at breeding season and if the it should have happened period. I would be surprised if anyone here gets in legal trouble.
    People may not realize how DNR boards can be politicized. Depending on the state they might be appointed by governors, legislative committees, etc.

    In Wisconsin's case, they're appointed by the Governor for six year terms.
    So I'm wondering how many hacks Scott Walker managed to appoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    People may not realize how DNR boards can be politicized. Depending on the state they might be appointed by governors, legislative committees, etc.

    In Wisconsin's case, they're appointed by the Governor for six year terms.
    So I'm wondering how many hacks Scott Walker managed to appoint.
    You can see the members here most were appointed 2011 or 15.
    https://dnr.wisconsin.gov/about/NRB/members.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nnyco View Post
    Americans making sure everything dies on their continent as usual.
    Yeah...and how are things in your world?

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    200 Wolvers how many?

    Because if their population is so large it's putting humans, pets and livestock at risk 200 might not be enough. And as far as natural we are a long long way off natural for a while now.

    A lot of previous endangered species might not even exist now if it hadn't been for humans, and of course some wouldn't be on the endanger species list if not for stupid people.

    The fact is human beings suck, but so does nature sometimes however neither of those truths may have anything to do specifically with 200 wolves being killed. It might be the only viable option left.
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    First of all.

    Fuck every subhuman piece of shit hunter. You are cancer on the human race.

    On the other hand, how about this. If the wolf population actually needs to be controlled how about catch, spay and release.

    But if you really really need the money from the hunting licenses, how about this, you extend the hunting season, and auction off the licenses to individual hunters.

    Hunters only get the right to kill the exact number of wolves they have bought a license for. Anything above that is poaching. And ought to be punished accordingly, no fines. Jail sentences. Just jail sentences. We might as well use those minimum sentencing laws cuckservatives are so fond of.

    4 or 5 years per wolf you killed without a permit.

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    Maybe the issue is having a one-weekend-only hunting season? Seems pretty stupid to not be able to respond to how many kills happen.

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    I dont get what the native American part of this article has to do with anything? Its just tangentially related. It was basically just added in for race politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghotihook View Post
    This just proves you have no idea how tags work. And nowhere in the article does it actually say the number of tags given out. It says they were allowed 119 wolves, but it does NOT say the number of tags. Typically when tags are given out it's an estimate. For hunting deer And they usually give out 5x the number of tags that actually get killed. So if they wanted 120 deer killed and they would give out about 600ish tags. The success rate is actually quite low. Unfortunately they did not estimate how efficient the hunters would kill the wolves. Once the reports came in that they were killing them so fast, they stopped the culling. The problem is there hasn't been a legal culling of wolves in 7 years. Honestly it's the DNR that F'd up their estimations.

    EDIT: this was also done it 3 days. Maybe the DNR didn't get the numbers in quick enough. Maybe hunters didn't report their tags. It's hard to say.
    Probably more a situation that the hunter's were out in the woods for multiple days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenJesus View Post
    I dont get what the native American part of this article has to do with anything? Its just tangentially related. It was basically just added in for race politics.
    it's there so people reading about it have a full picture of the situation, not sure how you could get any race politics out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nnyco View Post
    Americans making sure everything dies on their continent as usual.
    Canada kills the wolves by the thousands.

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    If only it were permitted to hunt those hunters... fucking wastes of space the lot of them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium View Post
    Ideally hobby hunting would be outlawed and cullings would only be handled professionally but I don’t seem that coming about when there’s money to be made.
    well it's not just the money but the hunting business is basically like the Mexican cartels. You don't enforce sanctions or try to disturb poaching practices unless you want to get disappeared. It's a really disturbing world there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    well it's not just the money but the hunting business is basically like the Mexican cartels. You don't enforce sanctions or try to disturb poaching practices unless you want to get disappeared. It's a really disturbing world there.
    Hunting businesses bind, torture, and kill anyone who doesn't serve their agenda?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    Hunting businesses bind, torture, and kill anyone who doesn't serve their agenda?
    yes, refer to ivory poaching for one example. Hunting can be a part of the general criminal underworld if people are in it for the money.

    Now the people that do it just for fun though are just as sick-minded rednecks and probably wouldn't take kindly if their hobby was outlawed. I believe Donald Trump's son is big on hunting as a hobby and has been at the center of controversies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    yes, refer to ivory poaching for one example. Hunting can be a part of the general criminal underworld if people are in it for the money.

    Now the people that do it just for fun though are just as sick-minded rednecks and probably wouldn't take kindly if their hobby was outlawed. I believe Donald Trump's son is big on hunting as a hobby and has been at the center of controversies.
    Culling the wolves isn't even comparable to ivory poaching besides both involving killing an animal...

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    Idaho needs to do the same. The non native wolves that were introduced to the state breed like roaches. They are a plague that decimate elk.
    Bandwagon sports fans can eat a bag of http://www.ddir.com/ .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daedius View Post
    If only it were permitted to hunt those hunters... fucking wastes of space the lot of them...

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    There's still around a thousand wolves in Wisconsin so it's not actually a big deal. Wild animals live mostly brutal lives and die in slow and painful ways anyways. While they do offer a few useful ecological and civilizational services they are mostly over-exaggerated and used as a way to demonize the growth of human activity which is irrational.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    There's still around a thousand wolves in Wisconsin so it's not actually a big deal. Wild animals live mostly brutal lives and die in slow and painful ways anyways. While they do offer a few useful ecological and civilizational services they are mostly over-exaggerated and used as a way to demonize the growth of human activity which is irrational.
    You must have been the inspiration for this:


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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    Wild animals live mostly brutal lives and die in slow and painful ways anyways.
    Naturalistic fallacy. Just because you think nature might be cruel, doesn't necessarily mean humans should be. What happens in nature isn't a good moral arbiter or a guide on how people should behave.

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