I already got ksm a whole ago, 1800 in 3s and am 6/10m so I already have 224 item level. Not really much I can upgrade since the 220 pvp trinkets are already nearly best in slot besides the changeling trinket. But I'm not going to grind my hair out for the slight chance at a single trinket dropping.
I could maybe get slightly more optimal secondary stats I guess?? But honestly secondary stat differences aren't really that big of a deal this expansion besides on rings. Besides raid time im just playing the game to play the game for fun. I've found an RBG group I've been playing with that has actually been a really chill environment and pretty fun. Each session we push our rating a bit higher and learn how to play a little bit better.
I never had a problem with dungeon invites either and I'm 1350 io. I play holy paladin so I guess that helps. Try playing healer (you are a priest) and you'll get tons of invites or make your own group. Im kind of surprised you are having trouble since its tyrannical weak and shadow priests annihilate bosses with big dick dps. Do people not know this?
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If you wanna run with the big dogs, you gotta put the work in. Otherwise be satisfied with what you're able to put together yourself.
I started shadowlands maining spriest and dropped that character completely 2 months into the expansion when I realized it was impossible to get into keys that weren't my own.
I also fell for the pre xpac hype and found the class super boring to play to begin to with.
I detest healing. I'm not going to be forced to heal just to get invited to groups. And big dogs.. really... are you delusional lol its a 15, not a 20.
You say youre surprised.... so am I, don't know whether to laugh or cry. The games gone from quite a good expac to the worst expac ive ever played in about the last 2-3 weeks. People are pathetic as well saying I need to form my own group and push 17's to be invited to 15's like give me a break. This is why I am not surprised the game is in this state. It's sad seeing the game I grew up playing turn to shit.
The way it's going this will be the last 6 month sub I take out and soon as corona bs ends itll be back to normal life.
Last edited by ArchangelTerenas; 2021-03-14 at 11:17 PM.
500th thread on same topic.
Can understand the pain, but it's all a simple supply vs demand - there is metric shitton DPS trying to get into 15s and 1.2k RIO is nothing to write home about, especially if you are not a meta pick like mage.
So yeah, the solution is guilds, communities and besides that - pushing your own keys. This is always an option and it's a way to guarantee you're in that group.
solution: make your own groups
why someone would invite you if when they create the group they can choose ppl with way higher ilvl, io and meta specs?
So wait, you mean to tell me that when blizzard adds the option of doing 10 keys for better chance at rewards with the highest breakpoint being 14, then adds an achievement that lets you upgrade gear by timing 15's.... getting into the lowest possible effort key range that enables those two things is way harder than before? mind blown.
Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
You will need two people, Brian MUST use the mouse for movement/looking and John MUST use the keyboard for casting, attacking, healing etc.
Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
Now see how far Brian and John get in WoW.
Nope. And that's the issue with pugs. Way too many people look at MDI or world first keys, and want only the classes represented there (ie meta), and fail to see there's a big difference between pulling half the instance in one pull in a 18 speed run, and pulling 1 or 2 packs at a time in a 14 pug. Fire mage, boomkin etc aren't nearly as superior on dps with more traditional pulling, and 15 keys can be done on time with virtually any class setup, as long as the dps can pull 4.5-5k ish avg dps each and don't screw up.
have to agree on this, i dont get why people find this a viable soution, as its not.
when it came to doing the last 2 keys i needed for kms i had about 70 insta declines because i want 1300 io to be viable for them.
i dont understand the over requirement for 15s i get it for 16-20 bracket, but ill never understand the "you need to time all 8 15s be4 ill invite you to my grp"
doing this just keep the player pool form getting bigger.
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this is also true mdi needs to be ripped apart and burned it's cause nothing but trouble for any1 wanting to do m+ and progress your score.
also remember its possible to never see a certain dungeon.
Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
You will need two people, Brian MUST use the mouse for movement/looking and John MUST use the keyboard for casting, attacking, healing etc.
Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
Now see how far Brian and John get in WoW.
Players doing 15s for a weekly clear aren't looking for the pool to get bigger. They're looking for this run to go smoothly, and they want to organise the group easily. Filtering out people below the level they want makes it substantially easier. I'm sure you've noticed making a key that it's hard to spot the best applicant from the flood of DPS players swarming over you. It becomes easier if you clear out someone you'd never invite because there are so many better applicants.
thats not a viable solution, i wish people would stop spouting it there's a lack of tank's and healers and the chance of getting tanks that don't know how to deal with the dungeon correctly or can survive the dungeon get higher.
try giving some actual advice
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it hasn't made it harder actually, i can still easily find what i want, only thing i wish is the browser listing would include spec, so i didnt always have to check what spec x mage was or check a hunters page to make sure he isn't surv on storming week same with druid
Yea this is absolute rubbish. The best 2 answers for this guy are:
- make your own group
- join a guild / make friends / network with ppl and make groups with your network of ppl
Try not ignoring the actual advice. Sticking your head in the sand doesnt stop it being the best advice.