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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    Erasure is a form of oppression. Cultures existing in parallel are usually a good thing generally leads to both cultures adopting parts of each others.
    cultures don't cease to exist just because the adherents live with others...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Texas is rather authoritarian. Swing and a miss.
    Yea...libertarians did indeed miss. But I guess you're just all talk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    O...love the hypocrisy. Put your money where your mouth is and move to a ghetto. North Philly is calling you!
    How is it hypocritical to think people should live where they want?

    I live in a culturally-diverse area, and it is great.

    I love that your hate bones for me has led you to defend racism. If the horseshoe fits...

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    Yea...libertarians did indeed miss. But I guess you're just all talk.
    https://www.freedominthe50states.org/
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
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    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Yes, they should be encouraged... but this is an issue of actual government force.

    I highly recommend people move to culturally-diverse neighborhoods and towns. That doesn't mean the government should kick you out of your house and move you to make it happen.
    Because you're a libertarian I don't think we'll be able to find much common ground here. But we can probably agree on that no person should be left without a home (or otherwise affected negatively e.g. loss of job etc) because of this initiative, which was one of my concerns when I first heard/read about this.
    "In order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must be intolerant of intolerance." Paradox of tolerance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dezerte View Post
    Because you're a libertarian I don't think we'll be able to find much common ground here. But we can probably agree on that no person should be left without a home (or otherwise affected negatively e.g. loss of job etc) because of this initiative, which was one of my concerns when I first heard/read about this.
    I think a home and job is only part of the equation. The other issue is the treatment people will receive when they are forced to move. When I was a kid, a black family moved into our small town, and they received death threats by the local asshats. They were told to leave, or be killed... by armed assholes on their front porch.

    I would hate to force such things on anyone.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

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    The vision at the end seems good to me; the reality is that this won't erase the Danes' xenophobia and will remove the protection a close, like-minded community affords immigrants now. There is no solution to either the Danes' problem or the immigrants' problem besides generations of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I think a home and job is only part of the equation. The other issue is the treatment people will receive when they are forced to move. When I was a kid, a black family moved into our small town, and they received death threats by the local asshats. They were told to leave, or be killed... by armed assholes on their front porch.

    I would hate to force such things on anyone.
    I would certainly oppose any government that did that.
    "In order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must be intolerant of intolerance." Paradox of tolerance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugarcube View Post
    cultures don't cease to exist just because the adherents live with others...
    True enough... which is why there is often this weird obsession Europeans have with wanting to ban symbols of cultures... like they want to... erase them.
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    Black people in america should be happy their ancestors where slaves so they could have a good live.
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    Black women are racist. Im the one trying to make her[my wife] behave like white people and not say it out loud.
    Totally not racist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    True enough... which is why there is often this weird obsession Europeans have with wanting to ban symbols of cultures... like they want to... erase them.
    Like swastikas..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Like swastikas..
    https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...il-ban/566630/

    Don't play ignorant as if you already don't know the issue.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodonius View Post
    Black people in america should be happy their ancestors where slaves so they could have a good live.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodonius View Post
    Black women are racist. Im the one trying to make her[my wife] behave like white people and not say it out loud.
    Totally not racist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurasu View Post
    The vision at the end seems good to me; the reality is that this won't erase the Danes' xenophobia and will remove the protection a close, like-minded community affords immigrants now. There is no solution to either the Danes' problem or the immigrants' problem besides generations of time.
    This was my thought, to a certain degree, when I first saw this post. I want to think that the Danes are putting this together from a place of good, but at the same time, there are "bad" ramifications in this policy. Like they are trying to do good, but there is no "good" way to solve this overall issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    This was my thought, to a certain degree, when I first saw this post. I want to think that the Danes are putting this together from a place of good, but at the same time, there are "bad" ramifications in this policy. Like they are trying to do good, but there is no "good" way to solve this overall issue.
    It still can help. Some people may "learn" slowly, but some might learn faster.

    My grandma was never really openly racist, but my brother and I often saw some stuff shining through. Here a comment, there a comment, when we saw immigrants on the street. Minor stuff like how it's possible they have a Mercedes and stuff. We often told her, it never got better.
    Few years ago an immigrant family moved into her house (some 6 party house), a family of 3. She completely changed. She is good friends with them and now I don't even remember the last time I heard her say something bad about immigrants.

    Integrating immigrants does have an effect.

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    This only happens in the evil United States. European culture is to perfected to happen in it. I mean its a race between the 20 or 30 best cultures, enomonys, and moral countries to ever exist (as long as history states 40 years ago give or take).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ettan View Post
    Like Im pretty sure I could move to ireland tommorow, and by the end of the month already be chanting on IRA songs (like dis ) while looking for english to fight.
    Completly offtopic but I just had to add this one (and not just because st Patricks day was yday).
    I have fallen head over heels for irish songs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inuyaki View Post
    It still can help. Some people may "learn" slowly, but some might learn faster.

    My grandma was never really openly racist, but my brother and I often saw some stuff shining through. Here a comment, there a comment, when we saw immigrants on the street. Minor stuff like how it's possible they have a Mercedes and stuff. We often told her, it never got better.
    Few years ago an immigrant family moved into her house (some 6 party house), a family of 3. She completely changed. She is good friends with them and now I don't even remember the last time I heard her say something bad about immigrants.

    Integrating immigrants does have an effect.
    I would think that's the goal of Denmark's new policy. Denmark doesn't seem like the nefariously racist evil country that would set out to deport their immigrant population.

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    frankly when i was an idealist i use to care or think it was wrong, but its clear that as soon as you introduce a none homogenous society to these europeans they immediately become nazis, so even if you are in favor of refugees is probably best for them to just not go there anymore, but if you do happen to be woke this is proof why capitalism and free enterprise is better for individual liberty than social democracy

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    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    frankly when i was an idealist i use to care or think it was wrong, but its clear that as soon as you introduce a none homogenous society to these europeans they immediately become nazis, so even if you are in favor of refugees is probably best for them to just not go there anymore, but if you do happen to be woke this is proof why capitalism and free enterprise is better for individual liberty than social democracy
    Lol....just...the fuck are you talking about.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodonius View Post
    Black people in america should be happy their ancestors where slaves so they could have a good live.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodonius View Post
    Black women are racist. Im the one trying to make her[my wife] behave like white people and not say it out loud.
    Totally not racist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    Erasure is a form of oppression. Cultures existing in parallel are usually a good thing generally leads to both cultures adopting parts of each others.
    I'm not talking about cultures, I'm talking about societies. You can still be Chinese, live your life in a Chinese way and teach your children Chinese traditions in Denmark. You're just not allowed to have so many Chinese people in one area that they can completely isolate themselves from the rest of society and build a Chinese enclave.
    If you are particularly bold, you could use a Shiny Ditto. Do keep in mind though, this will infuriate your opponents due to Ditto's beauty. Please do not use Shiny Ditto. You have been warned.

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    *clears throat politely* Y'all forgetting this? Or are we still pretending this is anything but blatant.



    Overpolicing and mandatory cultural indoctrina-- sorry, I mean daycare - and now residence quotas targeting specific demographics. Again, where have I seen this before?
    Last edited by Elegiac; 2021-03-19 at 04:33 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    What makes a ghetto a ghetto? I mean... there are some Areas here that people have considered ghettos. Despite it having lower crime than the average, and a high degree of privately own businesses by the high immigrant population. It was "ghetto" because it was very brown though.

    I'd move to a place like that.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghetto_(Denmark)

    In May 2018 the criteria were revised and districts with three out of the five criteria were placed on the list. That changed the number of ghetto districts from 22 to 30.[7]

    Many inhabitants lack employment or education. Only educations approved in Denmark count.[7]
    There are many inhabitants who have only primary education (Folkeskole)[7]
    Many inhabitants have low income.[7]
    There are three times as many people with criminal convictions compared to the average for the country.
    More than half the inhabitants are from non-Western countries or are descendants of migrants non-Western countries.[7]
    The page fails to say that the 3 criteria are: 2 of the first 4 and the 5th

    Basically a ghetto is a poor area with a high percentage of immigrants and their descendants (they are apparantly changing that to 30% instead of 50%..)

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