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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by zhorteye View Post
    I dont really think we can use "previous dates" as an estimate this time around.. Theres a pandemic going on which is, Without doubt, slowing everything down.. its harder for the developers to test, fix and deploy, than it has ever been.. especially because they have to distribute the fixes to EVERYONE and not just to pc's on campus anymore..
    Which is bullshit for two reasons:

    1) The pandemic has been out for over a year now. This is nothing new.

    2) If they are indeed slowed down, they should come clean about it. Like how Naoki Yoshida said that 5.3 will be delayed due to covid. And it was, by 1.5 months. Things are back on schedule. We know this because the devs communicate with us. Actually communicate not just talk about the good old days and congratulate themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhorteye View Post
    You do realise that Square Enix (Japan based) arent under the same covid restrictions as Activision Blizzard (US based) right? Japan never really got hit as hard, and didnt really shut down as hard or as long.. While in both Europe and the US we're seeing major shutdowns all over even right now, with the third wave causing problems in EU right now... Square Enix's developement team LIKELY hasnt been split up in the same way as US based developement teams did.
    You do realize every cutscene is also voiced in English , French and German and the localization teams aren't in Japan. Right? Right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    Wut? Since when you are 'right'?
    I would say 1991, but that would be a bit too cheeky. Granted August is still an estimate, but my "dumb hater trolling" is looking more and more like reality.

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    The model has been, for the last few expansions, 6 months(ish) per season, with the tail moving the next release along the calendar as required. In late BFA the world got covid extending the tail well beyond intent, so a mini-lull or two in SL to put the next expansion release in a different, more fiscally comfortable spot on the calendar wouldn't be entirely nuts. Indeed BFA had one or two mini-lulls before X.Y patches in what appeared to be an effort to cut into a long tail... and then covid happened.

    I for one am loving shadowlands, and should that stop, I know that there will be a soft power reset at 9.1, so it really doesn't matter if I take a break and inevitably come back. So long as I have cosmetics to pursue with a daily/weekly efficient burst of activity, WoW fits into my life just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wangming View Post
    Which is bullshit for two reasons:

    1) The pandemic has been out for over a year now. This is nothing new.

    2) If they are indeed slowed down, they should come clean about it. Like how Naoki Yoshida said that 5.3 will be delayed due to covid. And it was, by 1.5 months. Things are back on schedule. We know this because the devs communicate with us. Actually communicate not just talk about the good old days and congratulate themselves.

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    You do realize every cutscene is also voiced in English , French and German and the localization teams aren't in Japan. Right? Right?

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    I would say 1991, but that would be a bit too cheeky. Granted August is still an estimate, but my "dumb hater trolling" is looking more and more like reality.

    Tbf, Blizzard doesnt need to say a patch is delayed when they've given no release area for a patch.. the "schedule" we as a community and that they've been having internally has never been formally confirmed by blizzard, and we cant use the numbers for that reason alone..
    If they had said "Patch 9.1 will be out on x date in March" they would've needed to delay it, yes.. But they've never given an estimate on the release of the patch, and therefor has NO need of delaying it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wangming View Post
    I would say 1991, but that would be a bit too cheeky. Granted August is still an estimate, but my "dumb hater trolling" is looking more and more like reality.
    Yes, August is looking "more and more like reality" because Preach said so and people are parroting after him (cause they must fill current lack of info with anything). xD

    Jesus, now I see post talking about Fall. This community can really drift very fast when Blizz doesn't provide enough info.

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    I'll bet big time we see 9.1 in June / July. Certainly not May that's impossible at this point. Early June no.

    Every source I read and YouTube video I've seen lately all saying July is most realistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppy View Post
    It is a fair point. This'll be the longest wait for a major patch and from what we've seen, its on the small side as far as these go.
    Don't lie -- you'd still be unhappy if Ion personally came to your house and asked you exactly how you wanted the patch to be designed. You have unrealistic expectations and Blizzard owes you literally fucking nothing.

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    My cat told me today, after I gave her some treats, it will be June.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    Yes, August is looking "more and more like reality" because Preach said so and people are parroting after him (cause they must fill current lack of info with anything). xD

    Jesus, now I see post talking about Fall. This community can really drift very fast when Blizz doesn't provide enough info.
    Because 9.1 will take 2-3 months on the ptr prior to launch and we still look to be month or 2 away from it hitting ptr. Maybe longer

    Late summer is realistic, but tragically will be too late to save SL. This patch and raid need to be out by end of may to save this expac. I’ve never seen so many raiders check out so early and without any hope on the horizon, more will follow.

    SL is treading very dangerous waters and they need to work double shifts or hire more people instead of giving ceos $200 million dollar bonuses, and get to work

    And if 9.1 is a dud... then what? Do they pull a WOD and just cancel the last patch and make 9.2 the finale and work on 10.0?
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    I can’t understand why people want to rush raid tiers super short and then end with a year or longer drought like Wrath, MoP, and WoD.

    Many people are still progressing because CN is a challenging opening 10 boss tier.

    If you have accomplished what you want by now, take a break? Why do you feel chained to playing WoW when you aren’t having fun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by justandulas View Post
    Because 9.1 will take 2-3 months on the ptr prior to launch and we still look to be month or 2 away from it hitting ptr. Maybe longer
    Only available info from Blizzard about 9.1 PTR: "soon after 9.0.5".
    You 10 days after 9.0.5 launch: "month or 2 away, maybe longer".

    Quote Originally Posted by justandulas View Post
    Late summer is realistic, but tragically will be too late to save SL. This patch and raid need to be out by end of may to save this expac.
    Also lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zorachus View Post
    I'll bet big time we see 9.1 in June / July. Certainly not May there impossible at this point. Early June no.

    Every source I read and YouTube video I've seen lately all saying July is most realistic.
    I made some simple statistic about patches from last few years. Out of 17 patches:

    - 12 were released second half of quarter (often very close to end)
    - 5 on first second of quarter - 3 on January, 2 on October (and I must mention here one was 7.1, second 7.3.2 - but it was just system patch for Antorus and raid released month later anyway)

    Imo sample is big enough for educated guess that for patch releases Blizzard really favor late quarter with exception of January (I don't know if there is some reason behind it or it has to do with long Christmas vacation).

    So imo July is really unlikely, patch more likely it will be late June, even if raid will open week-two later in July.

    Obviously working from home has impact on SL patch release, imo in normal times they would release some actual content patch on March. But suggesting they can't make mini-zone, dungeon and raid in 6 months? Not to mention art team that wasn't busy since around Summer 2020? C'mon.
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    Around 3 months from the first PTR build is typically the standard for major .1 patches (.0.5 patches are often shorter). That hasn't happened yet, so anywhere before mid-June looks kind of unlikely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam86 View Post
    hey bobby just fired - again - around 10% of entire employee numbers, and will fire even more, because they cost less than even 5% of his bonus salary he just got
    what, u want him to get only 185 million usd instead of full 200 (assuming of course all fired employees were minimum wage)?
    and of course all those 'fired' were from non-important department, because 10% of entire work population in a company is just janitors or something
    Yes, people running esports for overwatch are the reason why wow patch cycle takes longer to release, sure.

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    Around when the new ff14 patch hits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhorteye View Post
    You do realise that Square Enix (Japan based) arent under the same covid restrictions as Activision Blizzard (US based) right? Japan never really got hit as hard, and didnt really shut down as hard or as long.. While in both Europe and the US we're seeing major shutdowns all over even right now, with the third wave causing problems in EU right now... Square Enix's developement team LIKELY hasnt been split up in the same way as US based developement teams did.
    The FFXIV team is still remoting. They werent hit as hard and still arent becuase they are still actively following guidelines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arr0gance View Post
    Don't lie -- you'd still be unhappy if Ion personally came to your house and asked you exactly how you wanted the patch to be designed. You have unrealistic expectations and Blizzard owes you literally fucking nothing.
    Ion is never going to have sex with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justandulas View Post
    Because 9.1 will take 2-3 months on the ptr prior to launch and we still look to be month or 2 away from it hitting ptr. Maybe longer

    Late summer is realistic, but tragically will be too late to save SL. This patch and raid need to be out by end of may to save this expac. I’ve never seen so many raiders check out so early and without any hope on the horizon, more will follow.

    SL is treading very dangerous waters and they need to work double shifts or hire more people instead of giving ceos $200 million dollar bonuses, and get to work

    And if 9.1 is a dud... then what? Do they pull a WOD and just cancel the last patch and make 9.2 the finale and work on 10.0?
    According to blizz they have their biggest team ever working on this constantly.

    Maybe the issue is they need to stop shoving so many cooks into this kitchen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkeon View Post
    Around when the new ff14 patch hits.
    April 13? Yeah right. In what universe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppy View Post
    The FFXIV team is still remoting. They werent hit as hard and still arent becuase they are still actively following guidelines.

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    Ion is never going to have sex with you.

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    According to blizz they have their biggest team ever working on this constantly.

    Maybe the issue is they need to stop shoving so many cooks into this kitchen.
    Or so many cookies in this kitchen.

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    Keep thinking mid June, early July...
    Quote Originally Posted by Firedemon View Post
    No. On these forums any updates mean an expansion hint.
    Wrathin comes back? Dragon expansion clearly!
    LK part of a quest? Wotlk 2 clearly!
    Sylvanas working with a death master? Shadowlands clearly!

    At the point we're headed for Wrath of the Shdowlands Dragon Isles Lich and tinkers.

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    Late May/June

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    PTR drop will tell us most of what we need to know. But as it stands right now I see two routes.

    1. Blizzcon was all we're getting and a very empty patch drops in June.

    2. Blizzcon was an early look and there's more in 9.1, and we're looking at August.

    Either way it will be a disaster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    PTR drop will tell us most of what we need to know. But as it stands right now I see two routes.

    1. Blizzcon was all we're getting and a very empty patch drops in June.

    2. Blizzcon was an early look and there's more in 9.1, and we're looking at August.

    Either way it will be a disaster.
    Wait so:

    New zone
    New mega dungeon
    New 10 boss raid
    New campaign quests
    New collectibles
    New invasion events

    Is now considered a “very empty patch” by the forums?

    What would be a “a very full patch” by comparison that was done previously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argorwal View Post
    Wait so:

    New zone
    New mega dungeon
    New 10 boss raid
    New campaign quests
    New collectibles
    New invasion events

    Is now considered a “very empty patch” by the forums?

    What would be a “a very full patch” by comparison that was done previously?
    Everyone declared it was "very empty" at Blizzcon. "Just a bunch of transmog options, a dungeon that they don't even have named, and a subzone in the Maw."
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