Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!
$11/hr...?
Yeah...I'm sure rhe GOP's methodology and their tendency towards delusion align better to such am "arbitrary" number.
It's not my number, so I'm under no obligation to show you why.
I've shown that it makes no sense based on inflation, tat has been provided.
No, not one has shown why it should be exactly $15 an hour, that's the point. It's not based on any actual data. People are trying to argue it should be more, based on GDP, but that doesn't make much sense. First of, the change in GDP by state and locality is huge, and they are not calling for that number to be the minimum wage... making their entire argument meaningless.
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That was already provided.
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It's just as arbitrary as $15 and $100 an hour.
Actually, it may be largely based on the minimum wage over time based on inflation... so may actually have a foundational basis.
I must say, it feels kinda nice to return to pre-Trump political debates. Well, this here barely counts as a debate right now, but you know what I mean. After soooo much Trump bullshit, this feels very welcome. Like a smart man once said, It's like putting on a favorite old sweater and smacking yourself in the balls with your childhood teddy. Okay, he might not have been that smart...
I agree that one will exist.
I would much prefer it to be very localized, down to the county/city level.
Personally, I'd prefer there not be one at all.
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So, let me know when you can find why it should be exactly $15 an hour.
And this is why you succeeded only in revealing how dishonest you are in your own argument. You make demands of others...to deflect away from the fact that you can't provide ANYTHING to prove or even support your argument...even just a little.
Like every libertarian...a waste of time.
I've already shown you why you can't use inflation, it would require min wage to be $4.90 right now.
You've agreed that # is unstainable and unlivable right?
So can we stop parroting "based on inflation" already?
Sure it is. You are the one bringing it up and i am asking for the details.
No on here has said
"15 is not my number, so tough shit its the number we are using"
They have based on a bunch of additional points that also included inflation, production, local cost of living, etc etc.
You just don't agree with it.
using GDP is downright retarded based on the way they value just inventory and when something effects the GDP in the product/service cycle. Not to mention WHERE the gdp is credited vs its actual impact point.
Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!
Oh god the administration of something at the micro level would be an governmental nightmare.
I thought you were for smaller less micromanaged govt?
The federal govt sets the floor its up to the states to do their fuckery with it at the local level if they choose.
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So then what number should it be?
Pick a city and give us a number.
Pick a state and give us a number.
Since you know 15 is bullshit you must have some idea on what it should actually be?
Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!
So, what exact metric are we going to use to get it to exactly $15 an hour?
I'm still waiting on that.
If it's cost of living, great... let's see the exact numbers on that.
If you are going to force things onto people, you sure as shit better be able to explain exactly why. As of now, nobody can point to why it's exactly $15 an hour.
I agree, I have no desire to use it based on GDP... that was what other people wanted to do.
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I'm fine with basing it on inflation... if there had to be one.
Which I don't want.
Now, your turn... why should it be exactly $15 an hour?
Instead, people want to punish states like West Virginia, and wonder why guys like Manchin aren't on board.
It's not my number to give, because I don't fucking want one at all. Asking me to come up with your numbers for you... seems rather disingenuous.
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So, show me why it's exactly $15 an hour.
I'll wait.
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So, it's entirely arbitrary...
Wow, looks like we finally made it.
I'm willing to take inflation into account, as opposed to cold hard feelers.
As I stated, I don't want one at all.
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So, nothing actually close to $15 an hour, making the number entirely arbitrary...
What you linked to me was a history of the CPI.
only thing consistent thing about them, a waste of time every time. I maybe make a few shitposts due to boredom and my own amusement at their direction, or talk around them to people reading along which they may or may not just dismiss outright, which is whatever, but never engage with them seriously, ever.
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This is what you linked to me.
https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2014/ar...experience.htm