more than two but fewer than many!!!!!
see that clears it up!!!!
most studies on driving shows that something north of 95% of all trips are under 30 miles.
trips over 70 miles in length accounting for just 1%
once you start getting into the 250-300 mile range i can only imagine....
Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!
You said "everyone." Which means you need to account for all situations, not just "driving to work." And yeah, sometimes people take long ass drives. Some people even do so regularly. From San Francisco to Seattle, for example, is 820 miles. I certainly don't do that drive with anything even approaching regularity, but I have done it. That would flat-out not be possible in an electric car, because while a gas-powered car can also only go about 300-350 miles on a single tank it takes less than 10 minutes to fill it back up again.
Hell, lots of people regularly travel between San Francisco and Los Angeles. That's ~375 miles, which again would not be possible with anything other than the longest range electric car on the market.
Widespread adoption of electric vehicles cannot happen until you solve the long range issue. Whether that's by utilizing multiple batteries or increasing their capacity or innovating faster ways to recharge (or, in theory, swap) them, my point is that it needs to happen and we're not there yet.
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Aren't recharges like...6 hours at the fastest on modern Tesla's? Because that's a different story than say, a 5-10 minute pit-stop to empty your bladder and grab some snacks while filling up the tank. Like, even if you stopped halfway for some Anderson's Split Pea Soup there wouldn't be enough to get you half a charge if you're lucky.
In what world are people making that run in IC cars without stopping to fuel up?
A quick check shows me the Honda Accord (as a comparison point) in 2020 was getting ~35mpg on highways, and a max range of a little over 500 miles. The long range Tesla Model S version has a range of about 400 miles. Pretty darned close. The main divider, as it's been for quite a while, is still mostly just price and convenient access to charging.
Two things;I certainly don't do that drive with anything even approaching regularity, but I have done it. That would flat-out not be possible in an electric car, because while a gas-powered car can also only go about 300-350 miles on a single tank it takes less than 10 minutes to fill it back up again.
The first, most people don't make those kinds of trips very often, if ever. And in many cases, if they do, they're flying or taking a train, or that's at least a valid alternative.
The second, charging highways are a thing. It's a matter of infrastructure investment; https://www.theguardian.com/environm...pens-in-sweden
Once that investment's made, the electric vehicles are far superior, since you don't even have to stop and fuel up, and you arrive still charged. Yes, we're in a position where infrastructure investment is required, but infrastructure investment is the only reason everything currently favors IC engine vehicles in the first place.
Widespread adoption does make the infrastructural investment worthwhile. Which basically fixes all the issues you're bringing up.Widespread adoption of electric vehicles cannot happen until you solve the long range issue. Whether that's by utilizing multiple batteries or increasing their capacity or innovating faster ways to recharge (or, in theory, swap) them, my point is that it needs to happen and we're not there yet.
If you've got a Tesla supercharger station and a car that works with it, maybe. But until those become pretty ubiquitous, it's not exactly the most practical thing to take a road trip. Charging standardization is going to be necessary, especially at the supercharge speeds.
So you're saying without the ability to cover the last 2% of drivers, the other 98% won't buy an electric car?
Widespread adoption will be stopped because of the 2% that want to drive 400+ miles?
i think price of vehicle and cost of charger is what is preventing widespread adoption.
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lol they are not the only car with a supercharger right?
My bet is on
VOLTswaggon.
lol april fools joke gone horribly wrong anyone?
i'd also put a side bet on GM because of all their investments in companies leading the charge (oh the puns today)
Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!
a lot of those jobs historicaly were done by young people who worked part time while being in school/uni . the problem appeared when those jobs were taken over by grown up adoults who lacked any other valuable skills to find work elsewhere.
this problem will solve itself soon when automatization will just take over.
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those are not problem at all.
problems for electric cars is they extremly low range and very long charging time during trips.
untill those cars will be able to travel 600-700 km on 1 charging and charging will be almost instant people will keep driving car runing on dead disnosaurs .
electric car is a nice toy if you live in a city and rarely travel outside of it.
No, because that's not really a reality yet. For a tiny minority of folks in some specific areas, sure.
I mean, I know we're doing the acting silly for laughs thing but like, cheerleading on a pretty shitty billionaire and wanting him to run a monopoly is pretty bad man. It's really not funny or amusing or cute or anything you seem to think it is. It's just annoying.
Man, I remember that time I had an internship lined up with a company shortly after college when we were still in the early/middle of the Great Recession. It was paid and everything, got it through a family member that worked for a partner-company so I was fucking stoked. Internship with a decent company? PAID INTERNSHIP? IN A RECESSION?! FUCK YEAH!
And it got pulled at the last second and I didn't get the internship.
Why?
Because it went to a former lawyer with 20something years of law experience. I'm not fucking kidding.
This is what's hilarious about these kinds of arguments to me, folks don't realize how bad the economy has been and how many people have had to "start over" in new careers where they have huge advantages over teens, 20somethigns and other fresh college grads.
I honestly wonder when the last time a lot of these folks had to look for a job for was, or if they've ever had to look for a job in a competitive landscape.