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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by arkanon View Post
    So why 4? Why can it not be 7 and still end the raid story?
    The raid wasn't even the end for the Venthyr story, even though it directly figured into it. Don't see why it would have to be for 9.1.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by arkanon View Post
    So why 4? Why can it not be 7 and still end the raid story?
    Because at 4 we have 4 weeks
    That’s 1 week for launch
    1 week for dungeon
    1 week for the new zone
    1 week for the assault on the raid

    Much like everyone else I’m completely guessing lol I’m also saying 4 because it’s around the same time a normal player unlocked flying in other expansions

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Logwyn View Post
    To open flying it's gonna take 40 more renown so a total of 80 to get flying and the next 40 will be at the same pace as the first. Tell me this isn't true!?
    Only and true answer:
    No one knows.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    no, not really, especially since renown you can get 40 now in 1 day
    Please elaborate on this.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by javierdsv View Post
    Only and true answer:
    No one knows.
    Wrong, I promise you a fair few people at Blizzard know.
    Quote Originally Posted by Utrrabbit View Post
    Any sane person would see your a moron.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Logwyn View Post
    To open flying it's gonna take 40 more renown so a total of 80 to get flying and the next 40 will be at the same pace as the first. Tell me this isn't true!?
    This has absolutely zero base in reality

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Logwyn View Post
    To open flying it's gonna take 40 more renown so a total of 80 to get flying and the next 40 will be at the same pace as the first. Tell me this isn't true!?
    This sounds like the work of the guy who made up that rumor that SL was going to be delayed until 2021. Was that you? Is that what you're doing here? Are you trying to get another 70 pages of shitfest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asrialol View Post
    Because it's a guess! Release had 9, where 3 or so were introduction things to covenants and whatnot. 6 remains that were atual full-on story stuff.

    Also, "around 6" could mean 5 or 8, too.
    So you're not actually making a guess at all then. You're saying nothing and trying to defend saying nothing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nizah View Post
    why so mad bro

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by oldgeezer View Post
    Please elaborate on this.
    Grind dungeons ad nauseam. There is no limit to the amount of renown catchup tokens you can get since march 9th (I believe, correct me if I'm wrong). I'm only very casually working on my Balance druid alt but I've gotten a renown rank for every single heroic I've cleared.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Neuroticaine View Post
    Grind dungeons ad nauseam. There is no limit to the amount of renown catchup tokens you can get since march 9th (I believe, correct me if I'm wrong). I'm only very casually working on my Balance druid alt but I've gotten a renown rank for every single heroic I've cleared.
    Best part about Shadowlands. My druid has a total of 276 Stygia, hasn't ever done a calling, barely did the covenant campaign, leveled entirely through twist of fates, got all renown except campaign from random dungeon drops, and he's totally fine. At renown 38 right now.
    Every single wow player should always try to make their own groups. Then you'd just have thousands of groups in group finder, without a single applicant.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Neuroticaine View Post
    Grind dungeons ad nauseam. There is no limit to the amount of renown catchup tokens you can get since march 9th (I believe, correct me if I'm wrong). I'm only very casually working on my Balance druid alt but I've gotten a renown rank for every single heroic I've cleared.
    Why would you even bother with heroics? You can buy gear that is 168. Very casually do your covenant story and then very casually do some PvP gear. You will do it faster than heroics and be 31 ilvls higher?
    Quote Originally Posted by Nizah View Post
    why so mad bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgeezer View Post
    Please elaborate on this.
    if you are behind on renown, completing dungeons, raids, and pvp allows renown to drop like a currency.

    so on an alt you can get all the way to 38 in 1 day if you just grind dungeons or pvp. then just do the soul and anima quest for the week and you are done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logwyn View Post
    To open flying it's gonna take 40 more renown so a total of 80 to get flying and the next 40 will be at the same pace as the first. Tell me this isn't true!?
    where did you hear that? cause it ain't true

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    Another 40 renown? ill pass. I highly doubt they will have flying at 80 renown. Yeah renown easy to get, but do people really wanna grind another 40 renown? If anything it will likely be raised from 40 to 50 or 60. Considering we will have a whole second part of the campaign for our covs.

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Vrinara View Post
    Another 40 renown? ill pass. I highly doubt they will have flying at 80 renown. Yeah renown easy to get, but do people really wanna grind another 40 renown? If anything it will likely be raised from 40 to 50 or 60. Considering we will have a whole second part of the campaign for our covs.
    Grind? It's two weekly quests and a short storyline per week. Has "grind" become another word that has lost its meaning to saturation by overuse and is now just used to describe whatever insert thing here a person doesn't care for.
    The most difficult thing for people to do is objectively look at something they don't like and be able to accept that it is not bad, that other people like it, and if it was changed to the way they'd like it that other people would not like it and want it changed back. The second most is to receive something they didn't want or ask for and be grateful for it, not immediately demand what they wanted instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cparle87 View Post
    Grind? It's two weekly quests and a short storyline per week. Has "grind" become another word that has lost its meaning to saturation by overuse and is now just used to describe whatever insert thing here a person doesn't care for.
    Considering I've seen "Grind" Thrown around a lot with different meanings by the WoW Community and other communities we don't speak of. Probably?

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by cparle87 View Post
    Grind? It's two weekly quests and a short storyline per week. Has "grind" become another word that has lost its meaning to saturation by overuse and is now just used to describe whatever insert thing here a person doesn't care for.
    People use it for anything they dont want to do, that has any gating at all. So even if it was "log in once a week for 4 weeks" some would call that a grind.
    Quote Originally Posted by Utrrabbit View Post
    Any sane person would see your a moron.

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by munkeyinorbit View Post
    Why would you even bother with heroics? You can buy gear that is 168. Very casually do your covenant story and then very casually do some PvP gear. You will do it faster than heroics and be 31 ilvls higher?
    Because playing World of Warcraft PvP is like very slowly driving rusty nails into your eyes? That's the beauty of the system. You can do all manner of content, including the variety of content that you personally find less dreadful. And I never said to use the heroics for gear. You should absolutely do your campaign for the freebies at the minimum, but you got a decent chunk after that to get to 40. I really do genuinely pity anyone that uses PvP to gear for PvE though.

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Neuroticaine View Post
    Because playing World of Warcraft PvP is like very slowly driving rusty nails into your eyes? That's the beauty of the system. You can do all manner of content, including the variety of content that you personally find less dreadful. And I never said to use the heroics for gear. You should absolutely do your campaign for the freebies at the minimum, but you got a decent chunk after that to get to 40. I really do genuinely pity anyone that uses PvP to gear for PvE though.
    Pity them more than grinding heroics to get gear 31 ilvls behind? You don't even have to do PvP. Your campaign will get you to 192 plus there's a legendary and you can do m+. No one should have to do heroics again. Ever.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nizah View Post
    why so mad bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logwyn View Post
    To open flying it's gonna take 40 more renown so a total of 80 to get flying and the next 40 will be at the same pace as the first. Tell me this isn't true!?
    There is no confirmation about renown levels needed. The only confirmation we have is the completion of the new campaign storyline in 9.1

    Now, it would make sense to expect people to at least be level 40 renown but they didn't mark that or say that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gehco View Post
    There is no confirmation about renown levels needed. The only confirmation we have is the completion of the new campaign storyline in 9.1

    Now, it would make sense to expect people to at least be level 40 renown but they didn't mark that or say that.
    Well the campaign is locked behind renown and the last one took 8 weeks to complete so i doubt you will be flying for a couple of months minimum.

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