Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
This is actually not true.
In the majority of states, the age of consent is 16. And even under the age of consent, most states have an age difference exclusion. In Hawaii, for example, a 14-year-old could have consensual sex with a 19-year-old without triggering the state's statutory rape law, despite the fact that the general age of consent is 16 in Hawaii.
"The difference between stupidity
and genius is that genius has its limits."
--Alexandre Dumas-fils
Well, it is kind of relevant, because if "sugar daddy" situations are a legal grey area, then possibly the "flying someone to a location to pay for sex" just becomes "flying someone to a location for sex" which might have different punishments. Still on the hook for the 17year old, but any other of the "prostitution" charges might not stick. I don't know how explicit the evidence of "here is money so I can stick my talliwhacker in your whooha" needs to be.
There is always going to be gray areas in the law - and you point out some parts that will raise issues. But with Gaetz, in this thread, he looks to be truly...fucked.
(this isn't directed at you specifically solinari, just to be clear)
I would also categorically disagree with those that think his money is going to keep him from jail. At best his protection would come from the GOP, not Gaetz's family money, and that seems to be falling rapidly.
Gaetz is more than likely facing the following category of charges:
- Sex Trafficking
- Prostitution, Paying for Sex
- Child Rape
- Money Laundering
- Lying to Federal Officers
Other than statutory, not that I'm aware of. That was a horrible post edit on my part. Sorry for the confusion everyone. Fixing the original.
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From what I've seen, there's got to be pretty solid evidence of this. It's not like you can pay for plane tickets for two unnamed people with cash anymore.
So why isn't this guy being detained? I'd imagine letting someone know they are being investigated and what compelling evidence they have against him would cause at least a normal people to consider fleeing. Is this how it normally goes down?
Yeah, that's what I meant by "age difference exclusion". More than half the states have one, mostly ranging from 2-5 years difference.
"The difference between stupidity
and genius is that genius has its limits."
--Alexandre Dumas-fils
Because he hasn't been charged with anything yet, he's being investigated. I imagine they could charge him with something small if they really wanted to keep him, but it's not worth the hassle given that he's not gonna flee. Where the fuck would he even go to that wouldn't extradite his ass?
So, Gaetz is moving campaign funds into personal legal defense funds.
$85,000 as of his most recent legally mandated campaign finance records.
Meanwhile, the GOP is very verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry sloooooooooooooooowly moving away from Gaetz. DeSantis is now refusing to comment. Rep Katko (R-NY) is giving money he got from Gaetz to charity. Trump has gone silent, er, remained silent. There are two House investigations plus whatever other federal ones are out there.
Not that I normally recommend people break the law, but it's starting to look like Gaetz would be better off looting his campaign funds and fleeing to Thailand.
Been watching a lot of YouTube NFL highlights recently... need me that football... but, Matty Ice nickname, made want to give one to Matt Gaetz... I just used “Matty Diddler”, but I recognize that it doesn’t roll off the tongue, like “Matty Ice”... hhmmm... we need Trump to come up with one that sticks...
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Other than the brilliant, totally not being used, MTG... who with Matty Panty Raider (no...) have joined forces to start a WASP caucus...
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi