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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    So, you want to go back to the days when gay marriage was illegal?
    I want to go back to the days when people didn't give a shit about others' sexual preferences.

  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Antipathy1018 View Post
    Why are you projecting this crap onto me? Where have I once said anything about "try and argue this is about "integrity,""?

    You made a broad statement about limiting voting hours. I pointed out if you were talking about Georgia, and asked for clarification. You gave it and since I am not very familiar about mail in voting I again asked a question and also looked into it myself.

    All I have been doing is asking questions and pointed out 1 thing about in person voting in Georgia, and suddenly I am some disingenuous far-right nut in some peoples eyes?

    WTH is wrong with you and downnola?
    You keep moving goalposts, we've seen this argument before... many times.

    I pointed out how hours are being limited and reduced, and you chose to move goalposts and build a straw man.

    Quote Originally Posted by Antipathy1018 View Post
    From what you linked it is not clear if absentee voting can only be turned in at voting boxes or if people can just put them in the mail to be sent in and counted.

    Reading about voting boxes it looks like their intended purpose is for those that either get their absentee ballots late due to postal delays or those who put off filling them out till the last minute and/or forgot about it and can't mail them in b/c they would not arrive in time to be counted. It looks like in most states absentee ballots are sent out to voters weeks before an election.

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    Well given the only absentee voting I am familiar with is California and have seen my parents and grandmother vote that way for over 2 decades yeah I don't know much about other states. I only know that what I have seen is them getting there ballots weeks before an election and typically filling them out and mailing them off either the same day or the day after. You are trying to paint me as disingenuous on this topic but I have no issues with mail in voting/absentee voting since I have seen it work for years.
    See how that works?

    They are objectively limiting hours for some types of voting. Enjoy!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I want to go back to the days when people didn't give a shit about others' sexual preferences.
    When exactly was that?

    I'm curious, because I'm old as shit, and it has always been something a large segment of society "gave a shit about."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antipathy1018 View Post
    WTH is wrong with you and downnola?
    Buddy, when your constantly gas lit for a decade on this board you tend not to assume everyone is posting in good faith, especially when it comes to people "just asking questions" about Republican attempts to preemptively game election outcomes.
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  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    When exactly was that?
    Before Freud published his "masterpiece" and second-wave feminists interpreted it as an order to publicly air their private sexual affairs and condemn everyone who said "bro, keep that shit to yourself"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    Before making such bold claims let's wait a decade or two and see where this liberal "do as you will" approach will lead.
    We have cultural freedom in the USA so yeah each group can just do whatever they want in their own little areas. It's not optimal for an integrated society but it's also not the end of the world.

    We all share the same military and maybe if China becomes a bigger threat to us then all Americans will have to come together under civic nationalism. But maybe that won't be necessary and there won't be any major foreign threats.
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  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    Before Freud published his "masterpiece" and second-wave feminists interpreted as an order to publicly air their private sexual affairs and condemn everyone who said "bro, keep that shit to yourself".
    So, you want to go back to the 1800's, when people were publicly shamed for having sex outside of marriage, and women were treated as property, and were not given the freedom to even vote? (

    Shall we bring up the sodomy laws, and other propriety laws that also existed?

    Or, when gay people were shunned so badly, almost all of them were in a closet?

    That's the problem with that brand of conservatism, is that the thing that they wanted, was truly fucking terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    You keep moving goalposts, we've seen this argument before... many times.

    I pointed out how hours are being limited and reduced, and you chose to move goalposts and build a straw man.



    See how that works?

    They are objectively limiting hours for some types of voting. Enjoy!!!

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    When exactly was that?

    I'm curious, because I'm old as shit, and it has always been something a large segment of society "gave a shit about."

    Quote Originally Posted by downnola View Post
    Buddy, when your constantly gas lit for a decade on this board you tend not to assume everyone is posting in good faith, especially when it comes to people "just asking questions" about Republican attempts to preemptively game election outcomes.
    @Machismo If you look closely I never once gave my opinion on the voting box issue, the reason being is b/c I had no knowledge about it which is why I asked, and before I could even give one you just started attacking me for shit I never said.

    As for the original point you are right by taking away voting boxes they are making it take more effort to vote, so you are right on that point.

    Maybe next time before going full bore on your preconceived bullshit you let someone answer the question first then reply.

    @downnola I can understand that perspective. I would just say wait a min and let a person answer before judging them. I was so busy responding to Machismo's attacks I was unable to answer the question.

  8. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by Antipathy1018 View Post
    @Machismo If you look closely I never once gave my opinion on the voting box issue, the reason being is b/c I had no knowledge about it which is why I asked, and before I could even give one you just started attacking me for shit I never said.

    As for the original point you are right by taking away voting boxes they are making it take more effort to vote, so you are right on that point.

    Maybe next time before going full bore on your preconceived bullshit you let someone answer the question first then reply.
    @downnola I can understand that perspective. I would just say wait a min and let a person answer before judging them. I was so busy responding to Machismo's attacks I was unable to answer the question.
    I made a claim, I backed it up. You chose to move goalposts and build a straw man.

    Enjoy the evidence!

  9. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    So, you want to go back to the 1800's, when people were publicly shamed for having sex outside of marriage, and women were treated as property, and were not given the freedom to even vote? (

    Shall we bring up the sodomy laws, and other propriety laws that also existed?

    Or, when gay people were shunned so badly, almost all of them were in a closet?

    That's the problem with that brand of conservatism, is that the thing that they wanted, was truly fucking terrible.
    Shunning is democratic. If you live in a democracy, you have to submit to the will of the majority. And how is it any different from the modern cancel culture? The only thing that has changed is who it's aimed at.

    Sodomy laws are 500 iq pepega government regulation. In a true conservative society, government regulation would be kept to a minimum and people would mind their own business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I want to go back to the days when people didn't give a shit about others' sexual preferences.
    Oh so never? Or maybe back to the pre-historic time?
    That was good time, an-prim gang rise up.
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    it’s mostly a syndicalist fantasy that “the workers” are going to rise up, which is disconnected from the fact that “the workers” are your racist uncle and jerk co-workers who you don’t like.
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    The election has passed and 58 million working class Americans stood up and proved that they are in fact your racist uncle and jerk co-workers.
    They really can't help but show disdain for the working class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    Shunning is democratic. If you live in a democracy, you have to submit to the will of the majority. And how is it any different from the modern cancel culture? The only thing that has changed is who it's aimed at.

    Sodomy laws are 500 iq pepega government regulation. In a true conservative society, government regulation would be kept to a minimum and people would mind their own business.
    They made actual fucking laws against it...

    So, you want to go back to a time where they cared so much about the sexual activities of others, that they had many laws against them.
    You said you wanted to go back to when they didn't care, but as you can see, you want to go back to the time where they literally fucking banned it.

    Well, this just got awkward for you.

    "I want to go back to when this shit was straight-up illegal, instead of just being whispered about."

    That's a pretty sweet self-own on your part.

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    @Machismo

    I literally just agreed with you in my last post.

    I will ask again WTH is wrong with you that you attack someone that is agreeing with you?

    Also how is posting what I know about mail in voting building a strawman, when I am also asking for more information?

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    Hmf... You guys are arguing against a right-wing mouthpiece...for being right-wing.

  14. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by Antipathy1018 View Post
    @Machismo

    I literally just agreed with you in my last post.

    I will ask again WTH is wrong with you that you attack someone that is agreeing with you?

    Also how is posting what I know about mail in voting building a strawman, when I am also asking for more information?
    It was my pleasure to enlighten you on such issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Hmf... You guys are arguing against a right-wing mouthpiece...for being right-wing.
    If you are talking about me you can take a long walk off a short pier.

    Try reading before commenting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    It was my pleasure to enlighten you on such issues.
    Outside of your jumping to conclusions and attacking me, it was nice talking to you and learning more about mail in voting, as I stated before I didn't know much about it and you helped me clear that up.

    In the future please don't just assume stuff about me and let me finish, then if you disagree with me go full bore, I have no problem with that. Just let me state my position first is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    They made actual fucking laws against it...

    So, you want to go back to a time where they cared so much about the sexual activities of others, that they had many laws against them.
    You said you wanted to go back to when they didn't care, but as you can see, you want to go back to the time where they literally fucking banned it.

    Well, this just got awkward for you.
    Having a law against a certain sex act vs. having parades promoting the said sex act, having laws protecting the said sex act from hate speech, having a subculture revolving entirely around the said sex act not to mention having billions of people regularly discussing the said sex act, making videos of the said sex act and promoting the said sex act as woke.

    Tell me again which society cares more about peoples' private sexual affairs.

  17. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by Antipathy1018 View Post
    If you are talking about me you can take a long walk off a short pier.

    Try reading before commenting.

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    Outside of your jumping to conclusions and attacking me, it was nice talking to you and learning more about mail in voting, as I stated before I didn't know much about it and you helped me clear that up.

    In the future please don't just assume stuff about me and let me finish, then if you disagree with me go full bore, I have no problem with that. Just let me state my position first is all.
    You literally just jumped to conclusions...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    Having a law against a certain sex act vs. having parades promoting the said sex act, having laws protecting the said sex act from hate speech, having a subculture revolving entirely around the said sex act not to mention having billions of people regularly discussing the said sex act, making videos of the said sex act and promoting the said sex act as woke.

    Tell me again which society cares more about peoples' private sexual affairs.
    The one trying to forcefully ban sex acts and sexual preferences.

    It's not even fucking close.

    You want to go back to a time where they cares so much about the sex lives of others, that they fucking banned it. So, congratulation on arguing against yourself, and losing.

    This is the problem with social conservatives, it flies in the face of freedom they claim to support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antipathy1018 View Post
    If you are talking about me you can take a long walk off a short pier.
    Try reading before commenting.
    While I can admire the ego (I have one of those myself on a pedestal that I shine up every now and then), the mouthpiece I'm referring to is the Claremont Institute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    While I can admire the ego (I have one of those myself on a pedestal that I shine up every now and then), the mouthpiece I'm referring to is the Claremont Institute.
    Sorry for jumping to conclusions, my bad. Just seeing that after my post kinda got to me given my prior conversations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    The one trying to forcefully ban sex acts and sexual preferences.

    It's not even fucking close.

    You want to go back to a time where they cares so much about the sex lives of others, that they fucking banned it. So, congratulation on arguing against yourself, and losing.
    Historical and cultural context is entirely lost on you. They didn't "ban" it. They kept it banned which was the norm for the majority of human history. Upholding a longstanding tradition instead of questioning it is the opposite of caring about it.

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