Best/worst computer brands.

[Usernameforforums]

If you plan to go really custom and money isn't a thought with it than MainGear and OriginPC are the two I have done upgrades in and saw quality. Most importantly I saw they actually put the parts into them that you paid for. You would be surprised how often these pre-built places tell you they are putting in an "Asus Strix 3090" and you end up with the most off brand 3090 money can find off ebay (you remember, back when video cards existed). The guys that are most notorious for that are IBuyPower and CyberPowerPC from my experience.

But if you are buying off the shelf systems already assembled and looking for best bang for the buck then you probably are going to be looking at iBuyPower and CyberPowerPC. The systems will work. They will have powerful hardware. It just won't have greatness but lets be honest greatness isn't often required. Just expect them to run a little hot. Expect them not to have a ton of effort put into them. Know that the reason its often a great deal is not a lot of elbow grease is being put into them.

If I really had to recommend one it probably would be BLD by NZTX. The parts will be what they say. It is just customizable enough to not screw it up if you are a novice. The price isn't insanely marked up. Now it won't be anything flashy but it will get the job done. I would say it is the closest thing you will run into that has that "home built" feel to it while coming out of a box. So everything will be easy to work on and repair/upgrade when needed. Unlike a lot of these places that use custom cases, parts, or stuff so much shit into a little case its often a nightmare to work on.

NZXT tried to charge $1000usd each for 3 of their ssds. I was like uh nope

[Ange]

If you have to buy a pre-build, LOWER your expectations a lot and dont even consider buying a variant that is not reviewed and considered OK/GOOD for the price.

In germany there are horror stories to basicly every pre-build just as everywhere else, but the extreme high competition* between discounters allow sometimes good deals. *The competition so high that neither US discounters nor every other foreign discounter can even stay in the market.

That means sometimes, the discounter tech partners like MEDION manage to create pretty good price/performance offers with basicly big issues. Those pre-builds are usually reviews before you can buy them, so you know pretty much if its a good deal or not.

Again that more or less unique in germany and pre-builds in average are much, much worse everywhere else.

[TJ]

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk-...l#t=a2c3g5h4i1

I got this one. I altered it to my liking and ordered some custom parts. They did a slick job of building it tbf, was impressed.

And the price for what I got at the time didn't seem too bad at all.

16gb of good ram,
2 SSDs (1 NVME for OS),
5600x,
RX 6800,
Custom chosen PSU and MB.

Took a while to come, but happy with the result.

[Low Hanging Fruit]

NZXT tried to charge $1000usd each for 3 of their ssds. I was like uh nope

Yeah they have fallen off. Really they just did what they all do. Give great deals and builds for like a year. Get a reputation. Then fell fight off the fucking cliff and got greedy. Sucks. But is pretty expected. For sure in these times when you got any excuse to throw prices to the sky. "Hey man the manufactures" or "inflation sucks" or just "because I can".

[Kagthul]

NZXT tried to charge $1000usd each for 3 of their ssds. I was like uh nope

... Wat?

I just fired up letsbld and .. yeah, there is nothing approaching that price.

And every drive they have listed is within ~30$ of MSRP or market price.

[Usernameforforums]

... Wat?

I just fired up letsbld and .. yeah, there is nothing approaching that price.

And every drive they have listed is within ~30$ of MSRP or market price.

It was in cart, though, it was also like 3 or 4 months ago. Could have been a bug and its fixed now.

[alexhales278]

I didn't care for the wire the executives yet I planned to dismantle the entire thing and reassemble at any rate so that was certainly not no joking matter. Additionally they put the AIO radiator as a front admission rather than a top exhaust, it's not off-base per say I simply lean toward my radiator on top. The cost was nice considering the current market I most likely paid $200-$250 more than I would have building it myself (expecting I could find a msrp 3070).

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In germany there are horror stories to basicly every pre-build just as everywhere else, but the extreme high competition* between discounters allow sometimes good deals. *The competition so high that neither US discounters nor every other foreign discounter can even stay in the market.

[hzjf]

If you don't feel like building your own computer and would rather get a prebuilt, What are the best major computer brands? The worst?

get someone you know with knowledge or ask in any Forum. Pick your Parts and just pay a "small" extra to get it build. Right now the GPU Situation sucks. But thats what i would do. stay away from prebuild as much as possible

[Ashleyxoxo]

dell bad guy

[florclorbromiod]

Really disappointed with my RTX 2060S from Gigabyte. Shit cooling.

[Temp name]

Really disappointed with my RTX 2060S from Gigabyte. Shit cooling.

They make a bunch of models, which one?

[florclorbromiod]

They make a bunch of models, which one?

https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/...gddr6-256-bit/

This one. When you have to undervolt to keep temps under 80 just save yourself the trouble and pay an extra 50$ for the MSI triple fan.

[marina34]

I think asus is the best computer brand))

[Temp name]

https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/...gddr6-256-bit/

This one. When you have to undervolt to keep temps under 80 just save yourself the trouble and pay an extra 50$ for the MSI triple fan.

Why..? It has a max temp built in at 88 degrees (as all 2060's and 2060s's do), as long as you're not reaching that you're not harming the gpu
It might be a bit louder than you want, but it's not harmful in the least

Also: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...orce-gaming-oc
it seems reviews disagree with you that it's hot

[Yizu]

https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/...gddr6-256-bit/

This one. When you have to undervolt to keep temps under 80 just save yourself the trouble and pay an extra 50$ for the MSI triple fan.

Whats your case cooling like? A bad case cooling can easily add 10c+ to your gpu temps lol Its a ~200w card, a dual fan should be able to cool that below 70c

[florclorbromiod]

Whats your case cooling like? A bad case cooling can easily add 10c+ to your gpu temps lol Its a ~200w card, a dual fan should be able to cool that below 70c

3 front fans, 120

1 back fan, 120

2 top fans, 140

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Why..? It has a max temp built in at 88 degrees (as all 2060's and 2060s's do), as long as you're not reaching that you're not harming the gpu
It might be a bit louder than you want, but it's not harmful in the least

Also: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...orce-gaming-oc
it seems reviews disagree with you that it's hot

That review is for Gaming OC, which has 3 fans. Different card.

I'm talking Windforce OC.

[Temp name]

That review is for Gaming OC, which has 3 fans. Different card.

I'm talking Windforce OC.

It is for both, scroll down a bit
Or look at page 5 of the review, in particular this paragraph:

The Windforce OC card, with its dual fans, also brings adequate airflow and works well with the power it needs to manage while also being quiet. Like the Gaming OC, the Windforce also includes an overclock out of the box. Its actual boost clocks in testing averaged 1,854 MHz, again well above the boost clock listed, but below the Gaming OC.

[florclorbromiod]

It is for both, scroll down a bit
Or look at page 5 of the review, in particular this paragraph:

Idk what to tell you. Maybe they did open case.

The internet's full of complaints about that version. It overheats.

[Temp name]

Idk what to tell you. Maybe they did open case.

The internet's full of complaints about that version. It overheats.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrac...c_overheating/
max hits 83, that's not overheating
https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/gi...oc-8gd.429164/
83-84, not overheating
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1133.../?tab=comments
83
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads...tures.2567825/
83
https://forums.tomshardware.com/thre...ature.3715406/
This one says 95, which seems odd, it shouldn't go over 88 without flooring your performance


Again, the max temp for the 2060s is 88 degrees, the only one that says it reached that temp says it went beyond, which means they either had a fucked card, or were looking at the wrong temps.

Does it run hot? Yes, 83 is kinda hot, but it's not overheating

[florclorbromiod]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrac...c_overheating/
max hits 83, that's not overheating
https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/gi...oc-8gd.429164/
83-84, not overheating
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1133.../?tab=comments
83
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads...tures.2567825/
83
https://forums.tomshardware.com/thre...ature.3715406/
This one says 95, which seems odd, it shouldn't go over 88 without flooring your performance


Again, the max temp for the 2060s is 88 degrees, the only one that says it reached that temp says it went beyond, which means they either had a fucked card, or were looking at the wrong temps.

Does it run hot? Yes, 83 is kinda hot, but it's not overheating

RTX 2060s start to throttle at 83C. If it performs worse because it's too hot, then that's what I call overheating.