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Yeah, you got me... I am now in fear of you shaming me further... don’t forget, I also hate personal liberty and I hate freedom of all kinds... just keep going... obviously me even being this blunt won’t change your bullshit... give us 20 more pages of your superiority... after all, that’s all this thread is at this point. You, the mighty virtuous one, with me the evil brute trying to harm BLM and PP, by denouncing lobbying...Originally Posted by Machismo
Prediction of follow up posts in this thread... someone posts a reasonable argument... you ignore it, to respond you support liberty or freedom more than them... prove me wrong...
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2021-04-16, 08:38 PM #2021Void Lord
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Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
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2021-04-16, 08:43 PM #2022Banned
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Nope, it's simply a matter of supporting liberty. There's no need to get so angry at such things. Originally Posted by Felya
I've tried to be reasonable, by posting numerous policies that could be implemented to push a libertarian mindset. Almost all of them were completely ignored. When it comes to my responses to you, I treat you accordingly. If you're respectful to me, I'll treat you the same. I am more than capable of having a reasonable conversation, the choice is yours.
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2021-04-16, 08:45 PM #2023Void Lord
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@Machismo I fucking triple dog dare you, to see how many times you can respond to someone in this, where the crux of your reply isn’t a virtue signal of you just being superior. Can you do that for one post? Two? How many do you think?
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Oh man, couldn’t even do it for a single post... despite me being that blunt about it? What a joke... Originally Posted by Machismo
Oh and we are at this part of the stupid game? Let me get a step ahead... I’m not angry buddy... Why are you so serious?
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
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2021-04-16, 08:46 PM #2024Banned
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I have offered multiple short-term solutions that are an attempt at compromise, to show that an increase in liberty is entirely within grasp. Originally Posted by Felya
Do you care to address all those? Do you think any such compromise can be made regarding those issues?
Edit: Here's the part of my comment that you edited out, and ignored:
Originally Posted by Machismo
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2021-04-16, 08:47 PM #2025Over 9000!
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There sure are a lot of haters of freedom and liberty, seeing how absolutely nobody agrees with him. Originally Posted by Felya
Nuance? Never heard of it. Originally Posted by SpaghettiMonk
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2021-04-16, 08:47 PM #2026Banned
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I've brought up multiple issues that I felt compromise could be made... and they were ignored. Originally Posted by Santti
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2021-04-16, 08:48 PM #2027Pit Lord
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If stopping BLM and PP and Adelson from lobbying their political representatives is a freedom you want to deny them, own it. It obviously comes with downsides, so argue that the denial of those freedoms is necessary to stop worse societal outcomes or rights and freedoms. Originally Posted by Felya
Don’t get mad for the people opposed. So they’re happy with all the organizing in groups to support their preferences using money. Of course they’re gonna stand front and center saying you want to deny their rights to politically organize and influence a government that redistributes, regulates, bans activities. That’s like, argument number one. You can’t take it personally in politics."I wish it need not have happened in my time." "So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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2021-04-16, 08:53 PM #2028Void Lord
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How is what you quoted not owning it? I like this shame game... it really works on people who have none of it... Originally Posted by tehdang
Yeah, I also want to deny people the freedom to bribe the government on behalf of saving the children... obviously, I do not want to save children... make that my motto...
You are projecting... do you know the difference between being mad, being blunt and being facetious? Originally Posted by tehdang
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2021-04-16, 08:54 PM #2029Over 9000!
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His fucking skeleton would rip out of his body in protest, if he tried. He can't do it. I said some time a go, that all of his posts could be summed into his signature, and all posts could be replaced with "see signature". Originally Posted by Felya
It's the same slogans and sniffing of ones own farts from wine glasses. Originally Posted by SpaghettiMonk
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2021-04-16, 08:57 PM #2030The Unstoppable Force
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Then you see that your question makes no sense? Originally Posted by Machismo
Originally Posted by ash
Originally Posted by PC2
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2021-04-16, 08:58 PM #2031Banned
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Well, when you would like to discuss the proposals I've offered, let me know. Originally Posted by Mayhem
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2021-04-16, 08:58 PM #2032Void Lord
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“Increase in liberty”... MAGA!!! Originally Posted by Machismo
I did, numerous times... you just reply trying to virtue signal... that’s all you got...Do you care to address all those? Do you think any such compromise can be made regarding those issues?
Yeah, I ignore it... “if you are respectful of me”... buddy, the last 100 pages made me lose any respect I had for you, if I had any to start with.Here's the part of my comment that you edited out, and ignored:Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
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2021-04-16, 08:59 PM #2033Banned
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Tis is you ignoring my proposals, and opting to shitposting... then getting outraged hat I'm not taking you seriously. Originally Posted by Felya
Let's hear your proposals.
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2021-04-16, 09:01 PM #2034Void Lord
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Pointless... your reply to ending lobbying, is that it hurts BLM and PP... that’s scolding, not addressing the issue... you don’t have any proposals... “more liberty”, has never been a proposal, no more than “just do it”... Originally Posted by Machismo
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“More liberty” is a slogan, not a proposal... Using BLM and PP, to defend lobbying, isn’t a proposal... it’s virtue signaling. Originally Posted by Machismo
Treat lobbying like a bribe...Let's hear your proposals.Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
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2021-04-16, 09:04 PM #2035Over 9000!
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Indeed. We don't tolerate bribery anywhere else, and lobbying is just government-sanctioned bribery. Originally Posted by Felya
Last edited by Santti; 2021-04-16 at 09:06 PM.
Originally Posted by SpaghettiMonk
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2021-04-16, 09:05 PM #2036Banned
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Why should someone like me, whose priorities I've laid out, side with your political goals? Originally Posted by Felya
As for pointing it out, it's addressing the issue. I support their freedom of speech, and I don't want it take away, just because you hate corporations as a whole.
Politics are little more than a series of priorities. You and I clearly have differing priorities, but that doesn't mean that compromise cannot be found. I have found myself muted on many issues that arise, because I have decided it's not worth my time, as the consequences aren't a large enough hit to liberty, or that the improvements justify the restriction. One key example is Biden's recent push to cancel some student loan debt. Sure, it's fiscally irresponsible, but I've largely stayed out of that debate.
So, what sacrifices and compromises are you willing to make?
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2021-04-16, 09:09 PM #2037Void Lord
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It’s called a bribe when done by an individual... Originally Posted by Santti
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Because I have not stated any political goal? I think there is no better reason to side with them... Originally Posted by Machismo
“I support freedom of speech”... “you hate corporations as a whole”... VIRTUE SIGNALING...As for pointing it out, it's addressing the issue. I support their freedom of speech, and I don't want it take away, just because you hate corporations as a whole.
No, there is no compromise in virtue signaling... you are not stating anything... what a fucking joke... you muted... nearly 900 posts in this thread alone... muted...Politics are little more than a series of priorities. You and I clearly have differing priorities, but that doesn't mean that compromise cannot be found. on may issues. I have found myself muted on many issues that arise, because I have decided it's not worth my time, as the consequences aren't a large enough hit to liberty, or that the improvements justify the restriction. One key example is Biden's recent push to cancel some student loan debt. Sure, it's fiscally irresponsible, but I've largely stayed out of that debate.
Call out bullshit virtue signaling for my entertainment...So, what sacrifices and compromises are you willing to make?Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
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2021-04-16, 09:09 PM #2038The Unstoppable Force
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I do, but you ignore more than half my posts because you either have no answer or don't want to discuss the points, for example, the post before this one where you only answered one of 4 parts. The best thing is though, you just switched from talking about what you just answered straight to another topic. You're not even discussing the same things within two posts. Originally Posted by Machismo
Can't you keep track? Originally Posted by ash
Originally Posted by PC2
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2021-04-16, 09:10 PM #2039Banned
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Well, if you are utterly intractable, then there's not much that can be said. Originally Posted by Felya
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2021-04-16, 09:10 PM #2040Void Lord
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Obviously you don’t value liberty as much as I do... Originally Posted by Mayhem
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
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