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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Look at it another way; kneeling is typically done during the anthem, no?
    ... and police arrests?

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    Be hysterical if the GOP cost Texas their professional basketball team, and Cuban takes the Mavericks to Seattle.
    Stop trying to make Sean Kemp cry!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    There's no patriotism like forced patriotism...which isn't really patriotism, but whatever.
    Indeed.



    People might scoff at depictions like the above, but if the GOP were given carte blanche policy authority, we'd be there soon enough.

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    lol. just lol. Mad repubs gonna be mad. Cuban is a genius.

    I also fully intend on teaching any future kids of mine that the correct Pledge of Allegiance is "I pledge allegience to queen frag, and her mighty state of hysteria". The Texas GoP is worth nothing but scorn, mockery, and trolling them until they go fully unhinged.

    If I was Cuban, Id play a message before the anthem explaining how it includes some very racist messages.

    " No refuge could save the hireling & slave/

    From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave:/

    And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave/

    O’er the land of the free & the home of the brave."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    " No refuge could save the hireling & slave/

    From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave:/

    And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave/

    O’er the land of the free & the home of the brave."
    And the Eagle is bald by choice!
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    It's not patriotism when the government holds a gun to your head (literally, economically, socially) and tells you to love them.
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    Quite unnecessary - this dips the government too far in the cultural realm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raybourne View Post
    Quite unnecessary - this dips the government too far in the cultural realm.
    Quite necessary for Republicans, actually. Their entire party has shed any pretense of having any kind of platform or functional ideology beyond grievance and culture wars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Quite necessary for Republicans, actually. Their entire party has shed any pretense of having any kind of platform or functional ideology beyond grievance and culture wars.
    I mean I get the joke - did you get the irony?

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    I would just play the song at 1000x speed, and volume just barely audible.

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    So they don't enter into contracts with government entities because ... their government is starting to put strings on the money. Fine with me; government wants to be this cringe, seek your corporate profits elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by solinari6 View Post
    I would just play the song at 1000x speed, and volume just barely audible.
    Have you played the anthem backwards? It will blow your mind...
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    How very fascist of them.
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    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Look at it another way; kneeling is typically done during the anthem, no?
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    I'm sure the resident libertarian will whine all about it soon enough.
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    Non issue...dealing with contracts...and the state. No harm no foul...ball.
    Mighty fine bootlicking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    I'm sure the resident libertarian will whine all about it soon enough.
    It's cool that you're in love with me, but we've already established that you guys detest the idea of liberty, and just want your version of patriotism.

    Trumpsters are a little bit absurd at this point.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Multiculturalism hurts and kills. This happened before Trump and it would be happening without him. Racism arises from a multicultural society. If we were monocultural, people would not see issues through the lens of race.
    This is a poster saying that people are at fault for being the victims of terrorism, because they are not white.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfire View Post
    I hate personal freedom because people abuse it like a shiny new toy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    Mighty fine bootlicking.
    It's seems you missed a post.

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    I never got the weird obsession with pledging allegiance and the anthem.

    I routinely sat during the pledge when I was in school... and I never crossed my heart when we were to stand and pledge allegiance to the flag.
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    Black people in america should be happy their ancestors where slaves so they could have a good live.
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    Black women are racist. Im the one trying to make her[my wife] behave like white people and not say it out loud.
    Totally not racist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    It's seems you missed a post.
    I didn't miss it. I just don't think it changes anything about the previous posts. You were totally fine with forced patriotism until it was pointed out there might be a contractual issue with it....which means you are totally fine with forced patriotism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tehdang View Post
    So they don't enter into contracts with government entities because ... their government is starting to put strings on the money. Fine with me; government wants to be this cringe, seek your corporate profits elsewhere.
    They never entered a contract with the state of Texas only the Armed Forces of the Federal Government hence why I said Texas truly has no horse in this race. Also like I said if the Armed Forces of the Federal Government wants to compel the sports team to play the National Anthem before games per a contract they can take them to civil court. You know the place contract disputes are taken not in the third party of a legislative body who is not involved with this contract. Plus as @cubby stated Texas is putting new stipulations on existing contracts that the teams have in place with cities over use with the stadiums. So if Texas tries to enforce this I would hope the courts would knock this down as a First Amendment violation by trying to compel free speech but I am pretty sure the Mavericks or any team Texas tried this on would win in civil court over a breach in contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pathora44 View Post
    They never entered a contract with the state of Texas only the Armed Forces of the Federal Government hence why I said Texas truly has no horse in this race. Also like I said if the Armed Forces of the Federal Government wants to compel the sports team to play the National Anthem before games per a contract they can take them to civil court. You know the place contract disputes are taken not in the third party of a legislative body who is not involved with this contract. Plus as @cubby stated Texas is putting new stipulations on existing contracts that the teams have in place with cities over use with the stadiums. So if Texas tries to enforce this I would hope the courts would knock this down as a First Amendment violation by trying to compel free speech but I am pretty sure the Mavericks or any team Texas tried this on would win in civil court over a breach in contract.
    So it sounds like Texas can't give them a worry. Federal armed forces are that bureaucracy and Congress/the President EO. Now if the stadiums are owned by public entities under Texas state law, by preemption, that would be an interesting lawsuit. It's only passed one part of Texas, so I can't expect serious legal analysis on a variety of possible avenues until it gets sent to the governor's desk. (see, for example, the way Georgia's voting law changed from the first half of the legislature to final version)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    I didn't miss it. I just don't think it changes anything about the previous posts. You were totally fine with forced patriotism until it was pointed out there might be a contractual issue with it....which means you are totally fine with forced patriotism.
    Patriotism is an emotion. Can you be forced to feel something that you don't feel?

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