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    [Spoilers] Primus Model Revealed

    It appears the Primus of Maldraxxus is actually the NPC who ended up using the Jailer depiction from BlizzCon:



    Though some aspects have been altered, the presentation looks pretty strongly influenced:

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    This might be the reason why they changed the look, because they looked too similar otherwise? Idk

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    I really like how he looks. but the blue is kind of ..strange? Shouldn't it be a darker green?
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    I knew he wasn't the Runecarver. My theory that the the Runecarver is Gul'dan could still happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    I really like how he looks. but the blue is kind of ..strange? Shouldn't it be a darker green?
    Might be a result of him having been trapped in the Maw?

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    I knew he wasn't the Runecarver. My theory that the the Runecarver is Gul'dan could still happen.
    Unless the Runecarver's appearance is itself a disguise, but I do agree that it's seeming less likely now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandragon View Post
    I knew he wasn't the Runecarver. My theory that the the Runecarver is Gul'dan could still happen.
    It may be the Runecarver restored to his former glory; I notice the Primus having a glowing index finger- the same one the Runecarver uses to etch the runes for our Legendaries. But yeah, it does mean them being separate characters is more likely now.

    Either way, guy should be angry he looks nothing like his statue.
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    It's a strong model, but I feel like this aesthetic came at the expense of giving the Jailer a good visual identity. This is a much more memorable appearance.
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    It appears Ner'zhul is also making an appearance in the Shadowlands:

    "We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." - Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandragon View Post
    I knew he wasn't the Runecarver. My theory that the the Runecarver is Gul'dan could still happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    Unless the Runecarver's appearance is itself a disguise, but I do agree that it's seeming less likely now.
    Disguise? Put that robe on him and you have the same guy. The concept art of the Runecarver even has him using that exact same finger to carve stuff.

    This is more evidence for the theory, not against it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    Disguise? Put that robe on him and you have the same guy. The concept art of the Runecarver even has him using that exact same finger to carve stuff.

    This is more evidence for the theory, not against it.
    Seems to be missing the horns, though - and I'm unsure if that giant beard could fit inside the mask as well.
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    The Jailer would have looked far more imposing and ancient with that model. As of now he looks like a filthy bald janitor, with that model he'd actually look like a timeless God of Death, but it's too late for that. Regardless I'm glad Blizzard didn't waste that concept art.
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    ok, if we throwing the Theories.... heres mine

    there is no way Blizz would make that first "jailer" photo that leaked and also made the model and made the cinematic with that model with Sylvanas, and then scrap all that and make this new Jailer aka Zovaal

    There had to be someone who was running the Maw before the Zovaal was chained there?

    And my theory is that Runecarver is the true leader of Maw, who was chained by Zovaal after he freed himself and took over...making the original ruler his puppet and his source for great weapons.

    Or second take on the theory - Runecarver is just playing the role of this tortured chained person for a reason, like idk, making a shit load of the Maw equipment for the living to be used later. And Zovaal is like a second in command until everything lines up.

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    I know the thread is dedicated to the Primus model, however, new models for... Revendreth gargoyles?


    ...or proto-Nathrezim?





    Personally, I feel like these are the "pure" Nathrezim. The race's original form before being transformed by whichever cosmic force they have been infiltrating.


    Then again I can be completely off and these are just another version of Revendreth gargoyles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dim View Post
    ok, if we throwing the Theories.... heres mine

    there is no way Blizz would make that first "jailer" photo that leaked and also made the model and made the cinematic with that model with Sylvanas, and then scrap all that and make this new Jailer aka Zovaal

    There had to be someone who was running the Maw before the Zovaal was chained there?

    And my theory is that Runecarver is the true leader of Maw, who was chained by Zovaal after he freed himself and took over...making the original ruler his puppet and his source for great weapons.

    Or second take on the theory - Runecarver is just playing the role of this tortured chained person for a reason, like idk, making a shit load of the Maw equipment for the living to be used later. And Zovaal is like a second in command until everything lines up.

    Venari said, don't trust anything you see in the Maw.
    "The Jailer pieced these together into a single landmass by throwing out chains in every direction within the Maw from Torghast and pulling them inwards.[14] The Maw was sealed and made inescapable with the magic of the Heart of the Forest, with the goal of banishing The Jailer forever" He's called the JAILER not the imprisoned, he's always been the ruler of the maw, they just imprisoned him and locked the maw away after he tried a coup, there was no other ruler.
    There's a reason he's the brother to everyone, blizzard likes reusing old god mythology, Zovaal is basically Hades. hades ruled the underworld and was imprisoned there by Zeus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    It appears Ner'zhul is also making an appearance in the Shadowlands:

    That is... not a very flattering model for Ner'zhul. I actually mistook it for a new enemy model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KOUNTERPARTS View Post
    I know the thread is dedicated to the Primus model, however, new models for... Revendreth gargoyles?


    ...or proto-Nathrezim?


    https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/scree...g?maxWidth=800


    Personally, I feel like these are the "pure" Nathrezim. The race's original form before being transformed by whichever cosmic force they have been infiltrating.


    Then again I can be completely off and these are just another version of Revendreth gargoyles.
    There is something about the Nathrezim in the datamined content for 9.1, so I'd say these are likely Nathrezim models of some kind.
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    Inb4 the 'Jailer' has been working for the Primus all along and Mister "I can see the future" has been 50 centuries ahead of everyone.

    Edit: Also ouch do they really have to do Nerzhul like that? At least give him armour that falls off as you fight him or something Blizz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calfredd View Post
    That is... not a very flattering model for Ner'zhul. I actually mistook it for a new enemy model.
    I think it's just this model below with the armor taken off which is why he looks so weird. Like Argus with his helmet off. It's a product of datamining not his actual look.



    My guess is that the Primus is using a recycled or saved-from-the-garbage-bin design for the Jailer. Also, dude has five fingers (;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calfredd View Post
    That is... not a very flattering model for Ner'zhul. I actually mistook it for a new enemy model.
    The model makes sense as to what he would look like lore wise. Kil'jaeden destroyed his body and twisted his soul, gave him the Helm of Dominiation/Frostmourne, entombed him in ice, and threw him into Icecrown Glacier.

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